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  1. *Official* Pedro to Chelsea

    did he really only get good once he was sold? if we look at de bruynes form in the league, he has delivered on the same level every year bar his very few games for us. the sore thumb, the outlier, is his stint in a blue chelsea shirt - he's been the best player (and one of the best in his league) in every other team, both previous to him being here and afterwards. 11/12 (last season in belgium): games: 22 goals: 8 assists: 10 minutes: 1813 min 12/13 (loan to werder): games: 33 goals: 10 assists: 9 minutes: 2966 min 13/14: for us: games: 3 goals: 0 assists: 1 minutes: 132 for wolfsburg (from january): games: 16 goals: 3 assists: 6 minutes 1496 mins 14/15 (full season with wolfsburg): games: 34 goals: 10 assists: 21 minutes: 3051 mins 15/16: games: 25 goals: 7 assists: 9 minutes: 2003 mins 16/17: games: 36 goals: 6 assists: 21 minutes: 2884 mins
  2. Ampadu and Hudson-Odoi

    i disagree that the players you've mentioned, bar christensen, were as good as hudson odoi and ampadu, yes.
  3. Ampadu and Hudson-Odoi

    I have to disagree. Hudson-Odoi is the best youth player I've ever seen coming up through our ranks (didn't watch enough of Terry's uprising). Many youngsters are flashy, might have superb technical skills individually and/or be physically very talented (especially compared to other youth players), but they lack both decision making, composure and productiveness in the final third. Hudson-Odoi has that (in abundance - I'd argue he's top of the crop individually as well), but he's also super effective. Every touch he makes has a purpose - and he has end product. He fits the modern attacker to a T, having both the individual abilites and also the decision making in the final third. Mason Mount is another player I've been extremely impressed with. He has produced at every level (U17, U19, U23 and now he's the best player for Vitesse). His biggest problem is probably that he's not quite fast enough to be a speedy winger, and that most teams doesn't play with an outright number 10 anymore, so he will need to adapt (maybe to a box-to-box role). But in my mind he's by far a more talented and productive player than Musonda, Brown and Boga (the players you mentioned in his 'position'). Ampadu is another Christensen for me. By far the most talented defensive player we've seen since him, at least. He's so good that he's basically a plug-and-play player in Conte's system at 17, performing both as a midfield player and a defender. His most stand out feature is probably that he doesn't make mistakes, and that's rare for young defenders. His floor is in my opinion a lot higher than every player you mentioned bar Christensen. He will almost certainly at least become a servicable player for a Premiership club. His ceiling, based on his technical ability and composure, is a top quality player for a top club, hopefully for us. Christensen was almost certainly going to be a top player barring any injuries, and Ampadu gives out the same vibe for me.
  4. Antonio Conte - Now Officially Manager

    this is probably like cursing in the church, but terry and lamps have been a part of teams (scolari, avb, third season in mou's second spell) underperforming more than this chelsea side, who i think are performing pretty accordingly to expectations.
  5. January Window 17/18

    doubt anyone knows enough about him, unless you're a red star belgrade fan as well, but conte bought him when he coached juventus.
  6. Michy Batshuayi to Chelsea

    i think batshuayi is genuinely trash. he looks heavy and at the same time weak, he is slow and lazy, and he looks to be about as bright as a black hole. batshuayi is a reactive player. he reacts to passes, he reacts to crosses and he reacts to our pressing. there's nothing proactive about the guy. i have absolutely no faith in batshuayi's abilities for a club of our magnitude, not now and not ever. he's so fundamentally lacking it hurts. it's a shame, because he hasn't complained a second about game time and has acted as the model professional, there's just nothing in him for me.
  7. i don't understand how one could even come to this conclusion after todays game. we absolutely dominated atletico, one of the strongest teams in the world the past five years. if not for a top four-five goalkeeper in the world and poor finishing we would have won by four-five goals. conte's job is to set us up to defend properly as a unit, and attack cohesively enough that we create chances. he cannot be blamed for individual mistakes defensively (zappa failing to cover torres and baka failing to cover niguez) or poor finishing. (now if you blame him for the roma matches, i could give that to you, but we were in dire straits at that time, not just in cup competitions)
  8. Cesc Fabregas

    is it? he got shafted from barcelona after they had invested massive resources in getting him "back" from arsenal. his defensive discipline didn't cut it. he doesn't get call ups for the national team anymore, a team that often fields three, four or even five midfield players. no formation can hide such a gaping hole in the middle of the pitch. i've always thought that fabregas has been over rated. he was, and still is, a free roaming maverick with little to no defensive responsibility who you hope can deliver that final pass. if he doesn't, it's basically like playing 10 men. other playmakers in his mould has more to them that makes them useful. pirlo and kroos (number 6's) are/were waaaay better under pressure and have/had a way better understanding of the pace of the game. modric, thiago, koke (number 8's) etc are way more explosive and can contribute to their teams defensively and offensively without needing the ball. modern football is played at a supersonic tempo, and fabregas is being left behind. 20 years ago he would have competed for all individual honors, now he's a luxury teams cannot afford (which spain and barcelona has realized). fabregas is a football genius born in an office workers body, and i feel that if we ever are going to reach the top of europe again, fabregas' role should be reduced to the bench and cameos when we need (and can afford his deficiencies) his talents.
  9. Alvaro Morata

    i don't see why so many people are wishing for morata to develop a 'nasty side'. not only does it seem completely against morata's character, but i also don't see why it is necessary. henry, ronaldo (9), batistuta, drogba and many many more great strikers didn't have it - and didn't need it. what morata needs to do is to develop his understanding with team mates (and vica versa), understanding of the league (that you don't get a free kick every time someone pushes you in the back) and further improve his technical and physical condition; all of which will come with time. we don't need strikers who spit, elbows or tackles recklessely - more often than not they can't even spell the word tackle, let alone execute it. we need football players who contribute to our team, and morata has every tool available to him.
  10. Alvaro Morata

    still doesn't make any sense to me as to why our position to negotiate will change for the better. real madrid still has their castilla super sub who can change games from the bench. why would they give up that asset easier than they could? my only logical conclusion points towards real madrid getting more leverage in negotiating for morata as our desperation increases. (i think morata will struggle as a lone, 50 games week in week out, striker anyway, so i'm not too bothered if we don't splash the cash on him).
  11. Alvaro Morata

    how will chelseas position to negotiate change?
  12. Your dream summer window?

    this, or: lukaku/belotti - morata/sanchez hazard with our usual 3 at the back, wingbacks (maybe even upgraded) and centre mids would imo win the league next year barring injuries. that much attacking power will make mincemeat of teams from 6-20, and with contes organization we will stay secure enough at the back against the top teams. one of the few problems with our attack this year is a) that no one gets on the end of crosses from our wing backs and b) that we still have hazard dependency, and teams are willing to sacrifice one of their players to stifle him. getting two cf's who can attack the box (hopefully better than costa) will be devastating. if conte got two good strikers he trust, as well as keeping key wide players, we can seamlessly transition from 3-4-1-2/3-4-2-1, 3-5-2 4-2-4 and 4-3-3. the tactical possibilities are pretty much endless and opponents wouldn't know what to do with us (once again).
  13. Antonio Conte - Now Officially Manager

    so, who's the only team that can concede goals or even chances, the team with the ball or the team without? i think it's boring too, but scott harris said that guardiola doesn't care about defence, when one of the main reasons for having possession is that you can't concede in the period of time you have the ball. i tell you what, guardiolas barcelona conceded 35, 24, 21 and 29 goals in 38 games pr season. in bundesliga, guardiolas team conceded 23, 18 and 17 goals in 34 games pr season. how anyone can look at those numbers and say that guardiola neglects defence is beyond me, and that was my point. oh and yes, i think conte is a better manager and plays more entertaining football, but that was besides my point which you quoted.
  14. Antonio Conte - Now Officially Manager

    this is obviously not true. the best defensive national team in the history of our game was built strictly on guardiolas principles - if you have the ball you can't concede. the problem is that you need some of the best midfield players in the modern era to do it effectively. and for that reason, i'm glad we have conte instead of guardiola. we should model our team after juventus (a team that is still deeply ingrained in contes roots), not real madrid or barcelona. they have too much pulling power in terms of super stars and resources needed to play super expansive football and still be successful.
  15. Naby Keita

    i think keita is the one who suits our needs the most. he plays in a team very similar to how conte seems to want our team to play; loads of pressing, running and movement off the ball. the sterotypical african midfield player is physical, but maybe not as disciplined (or technical) on and off the ball. keita has proven that he is both physical, disciplined and technical and is the stand out player for germanys second best team.