Should these young men be in the first team in the new season? Good players?
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Nemanja Matić and Fabio Borini Sorry for all the new topics. I would like your opinions
#2
Posted 28 June 2010 - 11:46 PM
Of what I've seen of both of them, they've both got bags and bags of potential. They're not starters yet, but there are plusses for both.
Matic - with Ballack's departure, he's stepped up in the pecking order, but if we're signing Schweinsteiger, then he's back where he was. He will get a few games next season, I'm sure of it, 20 minutes here and there, Carling Cup appearances. He has a good future.
Borini - We know that Carlo likes Borini, he's said so, and his promotion to the first team for next season is a step in the right direction. Sadly though, Drogba, Anelka and Sturridge are going to be ahead of him in the pecking order, and if we sign a striker of sorts, then it's hampered is chances even more. But he's one we should stick with, he knows exactly where the goal is and could be very useful soon.
Matic - with Ballack's departure, he's stepped up in the pecking order, but if we're signing Schweinsteiger, then he's back where he was. He will get a few games next season, I'm sure of it, 20 minutes here and there, Carling Cup appearances. He has a good future.
Borini - We know that Carlo likes Borini, he's said so, and his promotion to the first team for next season is a step in the right direction. Sadly though, Drogba, Anelka and Sturridge are going to be ahead of him in the pecking order, and if we sign a striker of sorts, then it's hampered is chances even more. But he's one we should stick with, he knows exactly where the goal is and could be very useful soon.
#3
Posted 29 June 2010 - 03:03 AM
It doesn't seem that he's been getting as many goals or even playing time in the reserves since the arrival of Sturridge.
#4
Posted 29 June 2010 - 06:29 AM
Matic played well against Wigan last season. Borini sometimes played in last minutes of the match, and he was doing well. I think Matic is going to be good replacement for Ballack.
#5
Posted 29 June 2010 - 11:01 AM
Ruh Buh Juh, on 28 June 2010 - 11:46 PM, said:
Of what I've seen of both of them, they've both got bags and bags of potential. They're not starters yet, but there are plusses for both.
Matic - with Ballack's departure, he's stepped up in the pecking order, but if we're signing Schweinsteiger, then he's back where he was. He will get a few games next season, I'm sure of it, 20 minutes here and there, Carling Cup appearances. He has a good future.
Borini - We know that Carlo likes Borini, he's said so, and his promotion to the first team for next season is a step in the right direction. Sadly though, Drogba, Anelka and Sturridge are going to be ahead of him in the pecking order, and if we sign a striker of sorts, then it's hampered is chances even more. But he's one we should stick with, he knows exactly where the goal is and could be very useful soon.
Matic - with Ballack's departure, he's stepped up in the pecking order, but if we're signing Schweinsteiger, then he's back where he was. He will get a few games next season, I'm sure of it, 20 minutes here and there, Carling Cup appearances. He has a good future.
Borini - We know that Carlo likes Borini, he's said so, and his promotion to the first team for next season is a step in the right direction. Sadly though, Drogba, Anelka and Sturridge are going to be ahead of him in the pecking order, and if we sign a striker of sorts, then it's hampered is chances even more. But he's one we should stick with, he knows exactly where the goal is and could be very useful soon.
You forgot Kalouuuuuuu!
#6
Posted 29 June 2010 - 11:36 AM
I think Kalou will play more games on the wing. He isn't pure class striker.
#7
Posted 29 June 2010 - 02:07 PM
#8
Posted 29 June 2010 - 02:11 PM
Kalou lacks the lethal finishing needed to be a striker (he too often fluffs his chances)...but he has pace, and if he can get 1 in 5 deliveries into the box right, and occasionally run in and shoot, he would be a very good winger.
#10
Posted 30 June 2010 - 02:26 AM
Think the two of them are going to make a few appearances here and there as they did toward the end of last season.
However, I think they might be a bout a season away, and then we'll see the likes of Clifford, McEachran, and Tore coming through the folowing season while these guys are starting to make further appearance.
However, I think they might be a bout a season away, and then we'll see the likes of Clifford, McEachran, and Tore coming through the folowing season while these guys are starting to make further appearance.
#11
Posted 30 June 2010 - 09:39 AM
Ruh Buh Juh, on 29 June 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:
As Mikstaw said, I don't see Kalouuuuuuuuu as a striker anymore. He's a winger!
But he somehow gets ahead of young strikers in the pecking order (that %^&+@$) and starves them of the playing time they deserve. Ask Sturridge!
If Drogs or Anelka are to subbed and there are Kalou and Sturridge/Borini on the bench, I know who will get the nod.
#12
Posted 30 June 2010 - 11:57 AM
Kalou is the most experienced of our reserve strikers, but I think that Sturridge should getting more chances to play next season. He is very promising.
#13
Posted 30 June 2010 - 12:10 PM
#14
Posted 11 July 2010 - 07:08 PM
Matic - has great potential and the current midfield roster leaves the door ajar for him to break through
Borini - always looks lively and works incredibly hard but it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't make it. I'd rather have Studge
Borini - always looks lively and works incredibly hard but it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't make it. I'd rather have Studge
#15
Posted 12 July 2010 - 04:19 PM
PloKoon13, on 30 June 2010 - 12:10 PM, said:
I remember a televised Chelsea crossbar challenge from a couple of years ago when Kalou referred to himself as a winger.
I often refer to myself as “ prosperous , slim athletic build with all my own teeth and hair “ not all of it true ...........................
#16
Posted 12 July 2010 - 04:26 PM
#17
Posted 17 July 2010 - 05:51 AM
Matic: Seems to have a really good potential but i'm worried a bit about how versatile he is. I have no idea if he is only a central mid or if he can go back and play DM or right and left etc as ballack and schweini can. However, he is an amazing passer.
Borini: Haven't seen enough of him but the few minutes I did he impressed me quite alot. I know that there are many others on top of him but being Italian and all im sure Carlo will find time for him. He's the striker for the U-21(?) Italian squad so he must have some real talent.
Borini: Haven't seen enough of him but the few minutes I did he impressed me quite alot. I know that there are many others on top of him but being Italian and all im sure Carlo will find time for him. He's the striker for the U-21(?) Italian squad so he must have some real talent.
#18
Posted 22 July 2010 - 09:15 PM
there's been very little mention here of Borini lately.
for anyone who wonders, he's away with the Italian under 19s. i've got no idea how he's getting on, but i do know he played in their last game.
for anyone who wonders, he's away with the Italian under 19s. i've got no idea how he's getting on, but i do know he played in their last game.
#19
Posted 23 July 2010 - 07:36 AM
Im sure I heard he was the under 19`s captain Stride, which is pretty impressive considering the Italians didnt even used to pick players who played outside of Italy.
#20
Posted 23 July 2010 - 10:31 AM
you heard right. the following article includes updates on how Borini, Kakuta, Jacopo Sala and Jacob Mellis are getting on:
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Blues Under-19s Have It All To Play For
The second round of group fixtures in the European Under-19 Championships saw Gael Kakuta’s France all but progress to the Semi Finals.
It also left everything up in the air for the four remaining Chelsea players ahead of Saturday’s deciding pool matches.
For the hosts, things couldn’t be much better right now. A 4-1 mauling of Holland on Sunday was followed up yesterday by a five-star showing against Austria, as goals from Antoine Griezmann (2), Alex Lacazette (2) and Enzo Réale gave Francis Smerecki’s side a 5-0 victory and almost certainly secured a place in the final four.
Kakuta played the duration of the fixture and was one of the oustanding performers on the afternoon, earning praise from Smerecki in post-match interviews.
The 19 year-old playmaker provided the third goal, the first of Lacazette’s brace, and was reported later to have also impressed Laurent Blanc, the newly-appointed manager of Les Bleus.
Elsewhere, however, things are less certain. Jacob Mellis started for England against Holland but in what can only be described as a turgid, lifeless display, Noel Blake’s boys fell to a 1-0 defeat, leaving their chances of progression on a knife-edge.
The Three Lions will need to beat France on Saturday to stand a chance, but with the way the two teams have played so far, that appears to be a huge ask. Blake’s side, full of athletic players often playing out of position, includes an alarming number of defenders, and they struggled to create meaningful goal incident.
As a result, Mellis found it hard to make an impact and was unable to break forward from midfield, looking to add to his four goals in nine caps at this level.
Earlier in the day, Croatia and Italy shared a 0-0 draw which means one of the two are definitely out, and both have work to do if they’re to join Spain in the knockout rounds.
They beat their Iberian neighbours Portugal 2-1 to leave themselves on 6 points, three ahead of their beaten foes, with Italy and Croatia on one apiece.
Italy face Spain in their deciding fixture, leaving them the undoubtedly harder task of progressing, whilst Croatia must beat Portugal if they have hopes of playing on past this weekend.
It was a positive Wednesday for Matej Delač, who followed up an impressive tournament opener with a solid clean sheet, once again solidifying his position as the best player in his squad. He kept future team-mate Fabio Borini, the Azzurrini captain, but had to be rescued by Tomislav Glumac to prevent the young Italian forward’s effort from going over the line.
Jacopo Sala entered the match as a second half substitute and played half an hour, but he too was unable to find a way past Delač as Italy failed to score for a second consecutive outing.
They too will need to improve in front of goal if they are to extend their stay in Northern France.
Saturday’s matches take place from 3pm UK time onwards, and updates on how Chelsea’s quintet get on will be available on Twitter @chelseayouth at the same time as coverage of the Reserve team friendly against Crawley Town, which kicks off at the same time.
The second round of group fixtures in the European Under-19 Championships saw Gael Kakuta’s France all but progress to the Semi Finals.
It also left everything up in the air for the four remaining Chelsea players ahead of Saturday’s deciding pool matches.
For the hosts, things couldn’t be much better right now. A 4-1 mauling of Holland on Sunday was followed up yesterday by a five-star showing against Austria, as goals from Antoine Griezmann (2), Alex Lacazette (2) and Enzo Réale gave Francis Smerecki’s side a 5-0 victory and almost certainly secured a place in the final four.
Kakuta played the duration of the fixture and was one of the oustanding performers on the afternoon, earning praise from Smerecki in post-match interviews.
The 19 year-old playmaker provided the third goal, the first of Lacazette’s brace, and was reported later to have also impressed Laurent Blanc, the newly-appointed manager of Les Bleus.
Elsewhere, however, things are less certain. Jacob Mellis started for England against Holland but in what can only be described as a turgid, lifeless display, Noel Blake’s boys fell to a 1-0 defeat, leaving their chances of progression on a knife-edge.
The Three Lions will need to beat France on Saturday to stand a chance, but with the way the two teams have played so far, that appears to be a huge ask. Blake’s side, full of athletic players often playing out of position, includes an alarming number of defenders, and they struggled to create meaningful goal incident.
As a result, Mellis found it hard to make an impact and was unable to break forward from midfield, looking to add to his four goals in nine caps at this level.
Earlier in the day, Croatia and Italy shared a 0-0 draw which means one of the two are definitely out, and both have work to do if they’re to join Spain in the knockout rounds.
They beat their Iberian neighbours Portugal 2-1 to leave themselves on 6 points, three ahead of their beaten foes, with Italy and Croatia on one apiece.
Italy face Spain in their deciding fixture, leaving them the undoubtedly harder task of progressing, whilst Croatia must beat Portugal if they have hopes of playing on past this weekend.
It was a positive Wednesday for Matej Delač, who followed up an impressive tournament opener with a solid clean sheet, once again solidifying his position as the best player in his squad. He kept future team-mate Fabio Borini, the Azzurrini captain, but had to be rescued by Tomislav Glumac to prevent the young Italian forward’s effort from going over the line.
Jacopo Sala entered the match as a second half substitute and played half an hour, but he too was unable to find a way past Delač as Italy failed to score for a second consecutive outing.
They too will need to improve in front of goal if they are to extend their stay in Northern France.
Saturday’s matches take place from 3pm UK time onwards, and updates on how Chelsea’s quintet get on will be available on Twitter @chelseayouth at the same time as coverage of the Reserve team friendly against Crawley Town, which kicks off at the same time.
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