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[real chelsea fan 1999]

Set to manage Inter Milan for me personally i loved him at Chelsea!! Wish him all the best...

http://soccernet.esp...r-milan?cc=3436

[midlandblue]

just been confirmed

[The Moos]

Didn't like him at Chelsea, hated him at Juventus. Now he's taking over their main rivals. I dislike him even more.
But he's a born loser so Inter won't win the league this season.

Edited by The Moos, 22 September 2011 - 10:24 AM.

[midlandblue]

it's only  a 12 month contract with the option of a further 12 months.

[blizeH]

The Moos, on 22 September 2011 - 10:23 AM, said:

Didn't like him at Chelsea, hated him at Juventus. Now he's taking over their main rivals. I dislike him even more.
But he's a born loser so Inter won't win the league this season.

Urgh.

[Maksimov]

The Moos, on 22 September 2011 - 10:23 AM, said:

Didn't like him at Chelsea

Sometimes I wonder if you even like Chelsea.

[Celery1989]

The Moos, on 22 September 2011 - 10:23 AM, said:

Didn't like him at Chelsea

You realize that without him Abramovich would never have bought Chelsea?

Edited by Celery1989, 22 September 2011 - 02:40 PM.

[TheWestwayWonder]

The Moos, on 22 September 2011 - 10:23 AM, said:

Didn't like him at Chelsea, hated him at Juventus. Now he's taking over their main rivals. I dislike him even more.
But he's a born loser so Inter won't win the league this season.

So he managed your two favorite clubs, and yet you hate him and call him a born loser? That makes zero sense.

Juve were lucky to have him after the mess that club was in. That club shot itself in the foot with the antics of Moggi, and only now are recovering to a level anywhere close to they were before Calicopoli. THe debate about him here will go on endlessly but I never wanted to see him sacked despite what happened afterward. And I doubt PArma and Roma would have a bad word to say about him, since this "born loser" left their clubs much better off than he found them.

The man is 100% class and a good manager, and deserves way more than to be slagged off by fans from the very clubs he's managed.

[Katon]

TheWestwayWonder, on 22 September 2011 - 02:51 PM, said:

Juve were lucky to have him after the mess that club was in. That club shot itself in the foot with the antics of Moggi, and only now are recovering to a level anywhere close to they were before Calicopoli. THe debate about him here will go on endlessly but I never wanted to see him sacked despite what happened afterward.

Well . . . he did screw up the Monaco semi six ways to Sunday, and his record in general has a lot of near misses. On the other hand, his record also has a lot of clubs taken to positions where they could complain about narrowly missing trophies; Valencia (first spell), Chelsea, Juventus, and Parma were all regularly finishing much higher at the end of his spell and shortly after he left than they were when he arrived, and Roma's best domestic season for a decade came under him.

Not a perfect manager, and I certainly wouldn't take him over AVB or Jose, but for a born loser his clubs sure do improve a lot when he's in charge.

[Celery1989]

Katon, on 22 September 2011 - 03:29 PM, said:

Well . . . he did screw up the Monaco semi six ways to Sunday, and his record in general has a lot of near misses. On the other hand, his record also has a lot of clubs taken to positions where they could complain about narrowly missing trophies; Valencia (first spell), Chelsea, Juventus, and Parma were all regularly finishing much higher at the end of his spell and shortly after he left than they were when he arrived, and Roma's best domestic season for a decade came under him.

Not a perfect manager, and I certainly wouldn't take him over AVB or Jose, but for a born loser his clubs sure do improve a lot when he's in charge.

How exactly did he screw up the semi against Monaco? Yeah he started with Veron on the left but I seem to remember we had no options. Also, it was 1-1 in the first leg, Monaco got a red card, yet we lost 3-1. That falls on the players I'm afraid.

[dkw]

Celery1989, on 22 September 2011 - 04:35 PM, said:

How exactly did he screw up the semi against Monaco? Yeah he started with Veron on the left but I seem to remember we had no options. Also, it was 1-1 in the first leg, Monaco got a red card, yet we lost 3-1. That falls on the players I'm afraid.

His substitutions in that game were hard to take, he made some massive mistakes. But I dont know how anyone can hate the tinkerman, especially after that game at arsenal and his reaction to the win.

[undertow]

Celery1989, on 22 September 2011 - 04:35 PM, said:

How exactly did he screw up the semi against Monaco?

Oh no, not that again please, I still have nightmares...

[Katon]

Celery1989, on 22 September 2011 - 04:35 PM, said:

How exactly did he screw up the semi against Monaco? Yeah he started with Veron on the left but I seem to remember we had no options. Also, it was 1-1 in the first leg, Monaco got a red card, yet we lost 3-1. That falls on the players I'm afraid.

He didn't start with Veron on the left. He started with Gronkjaer on the left, then replaced him with Veron at halftime; Frank, who'd been running the midfield in the first half, quieted down substantially with the loss of an option out wide. Once we were a man up, he pulled Melchiot for Hasselbaink, then took Parker off for Huth, leaving us with three central defenders, three center-forwards, and zero clue what formation we were trying to play; as I recall Huth wound up trying to fill in at right-back, with predictable results.

Claudio did a lot of great things for the club, with the quarterfinal at Highbury particularly memorable, but there's no question Monaco was a disaster.

[Maksimov]

Katon, on 22 September 2011 - 05:32 PM, said:

Claudio did a lot of great things for the club, with the quarterfinal at Highbury particularly memorable, but there's no question Monaco was a disaster.

The less said about the Monaco incident, the better, but many of the key players from Jose's era were actually Claudio's signings: Lampard, Makelele, Duff, Robben, Cech, Gallas... Joe Cole and Eidur also played their part in the success. Claudio's got a good eye for talent, but for some reason he has never been able to take his projects all the way to victory. But to say he's a loser, is a bit harsh, to say the least.

[TheWestwayWonder]

Katon, on 22 September 2011 - 03:29 PM, said:

Well . . . he did screw up the Monaco semi six ways to Sunday, and his record in general has a lot of near misses. On the other hand, his record also has a lot of clubs taken to positions where they could complain about narrowly missing trophies; Valencia (first spell), Chelsea, Juventus, and Parma were all regularly finishing much higher at the end of his spell and shortly after he left than they were when he arrived, and Roma's best domestic season for a decade came under him.

Not a perfect manager, and I certainly wouldn't take him over AVB or Jose, but for a born loser his clubs sure do improve a lot when he's in charge.

Yes, he screwed that up. But everything else you and I have said is true. He has a proven track record for taking teams that have no business competing and getting them to shape up and punch above their weight.

If Juve fans were thinking he was going to take them straight from promotion to being back in the top four they were delusional. A false start with several managers and several high profile bust transfers later, they are right back in the same place Claudio left them.

[Maverick]

Moratti is either too foolish to hire guys like Rafa and Gasperini in the first place or too demanding with no patience. The patience bit could be attributed to post Jose syndrome which we went through in  2007 and 2008. Claudio should do a good job given the squad and talent they have. If they are in the race come Jan I would probably put a 20 pound on them winning the Serie A.

[mad_mac]

surely a better option forthem than Rafa ever was.  Facht

[youlots]

The Moos, on 22 September 2011 - 10:23 AM, said:

Didn't like him at Chelsea, hated him at Juventus. Now he's taking over their main rivals. I dislike him even more. But he's a born loser so Inter won't win the league this season.

Behooving bovinism Moos?

[The Moos]

blizeH, on 22 September 2011 - 10:50 AM, said:

Urgh.

Which stands for?
Utterly Right, Good Horse?
No, I'm a Moos.

Maksimov, on 22 September 2011 - 11:03 AM, said:

Sometimes I wonder if you even like Chelsea.

Oh no, I hate Chelsea with all my might. Which is why I've spent years on this forum. Nothing says "I loathe Chelsea" like saying how I adore JT, love Lamps and worship Drogba, Essien and the rest.

Celery1989, on 22 September 2011 - 02:33 PM, said:

You realize that without him Abramovich would never have bought Chelsea?

Really? So I guess Ranieri got down on both knees, gave Roman the worlds greatest blowjobs and therefore convinced him to buy Chelsea.

Oh, and all the players who was at the club then meant nothing, so they are worthless.

TheWestwayWonder, on 22 September 2011 - 02:51 PM, said:

So he managed your two favorite clubs, and yet you hate him and call him a born loser? That makes zero sense.

Juve were lucky to have him after the mess that club was in. That club shot itself in the foot with the antics of Moggi, and only now are recovering to a level anywhere close to they were before Calicopoli. THe debate about him here will go on endlessly but I never wanted to see him sacked despite what happened afterward. And I doubt PArma and Roma would have a bad word to say about him, since this "born loser" left their clubs much better off than he found them.

The man is 100% class and a good manager, and deserves way more than to be slagged off by fans from the very clubs he's managed.

Just because he's managed two of my favourite clubs it does not mean I have to love him. If Scolari took over Juve and failed there, I would hate him as well. I highly dislike him, but since he was at Chelsea I am forced to love him. Sorry.

And the born loser thing is all down to the fact that he rarely wins trophies, despite having managed some good teams.
He's not a crap manager if you want someone who can get the team to a mildly respectable position, but if you want to go on and win something I would not trust Ranieri one bit.

[Maksimov]

The Moos, on 23 September 2011 - 12:14 AM, said:

Oh no, I hate Chelsea with all my might.

Most of the time you do come across as very negative when it comes to Chelsea. I'm not saying everyone should like everything the club has done or is doing, but you do seem to often(more often than not) find the negative side to all things Chelsea.

The Moos, on 23 September 2011 - 12:14 AM, said:

Really? So I guess Ranieri got down on both knees, gave Roman the worlds greatest blowjobs and therefore convinced him to buy Chelsea.

Oh, and all the players who was at the club then meant nothing, so they are worthless.

Take a look at the players we had during the 02/03 season. We had an aging squad, the squad desperately needed fresh blood, but couldn't afford to buy anyone because of all the debt. Yet Ranieri managed to get the team working well enough to get us a place in the Champions League. The place in Europe was the main thing that made Roman decide that he wanted to buy Chelsea, so no, he didn't give Roman a blow job, but he did a whole lot to convince him that Chelsea was worth his time. We had some decent players, but A LOT of dead wood as well. Just go and check out the squad list from that season. And as I mentioned earlier, majority of the players that were key players during Jose's era were actually Claudio's signings(and that includes Robben and Cech). Sure, Jose took the team to another level, but the early success was largely done with a squad that Claudio built.

Edited by Maksimov, 23 September 2011 - 06:46 AM.