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[Arq]

Here are the pots based upon the seedings:


Seedings for Euro 2012


• Pot 1: Spain, Holland, Poland*, Ukraine*.
• Pot 2: Germany, Italy, England, Russia.
• Pot 3: Croatia, Greece, Portugal, Sweden.
• Pot 4: Denmark, France, Czech Republic, Republic of Ireland

* Poland already allocated to Group A, Ukraine already allocated to Group D.

There are going to be some interesting group stage pairings...

Edited by Arq, 16 November 2011 - 07:37 PM.

[BrazilBlue]

Here is how I'd like to see the draw go

• Group A    Group B Group C   Group D

• Poland.          Holland    Spain    Ukraine
  
• Italy.               England Russia Germany
  
• Croatia.          Portugal Sweden   Greece
  
• Czech Rep     Ireland France Denmark

Edited by BrazilBlue, 16 November 2011 - 08:47 PM.

[Brayerz]

Has the tournement always been this small? I thought there were more teams in it than this.

[Arq]

Brayerz, on 16 November 2011 - 09:05 PM, said:

Has the tournement always been this small? I thought there were more teams in it than this.

I believe it's always been this small.

[The Moos]

As a swede I would not object to seeing us get Poland, England and Denmark or Ireland. Possibly Russia ahead of England, but we do have quite good statistics against England. Worst scenario would be Spain, Germany and France. Still think we could end top 2 in that group, but it would be very difficult (especially with that useless lump of arrogance Zlatan on the pitch).

I would not mind seeing this group: Spain, Germany, Portugal and France. Would be really interesting. And then perhaps Holland, Italy/England, Croatia and Czech Republic.

[ace]

It goes to 24 in France 2016, which I think will make it even more exciting.

[Maverick]

Brayerz, on 16 November 2011 - 09:05 PM, said:

Has the tournement always been this small? I thought there were more teams in it than this.

Its been the same for a while now and I wouldn't want to see more teams just for the sake of numbers. When I look at those pots I don't see a single nation outside of those that would be missed. One could argue about Turkey but over two legs it was evident that they are some way from being Europe's elite. I wouldn't want to see Estonia vs Spain at a premier event like Euro championships.

[rahul]

I'd love to see a group of Spain, Germany, Portugal and France

[BrazilBlue]

Here is how I would rank the 16 team in the tournament

• Germany
  
• Spain
  
• Holland
  
• Italy
  
• Croatia
  
• Portugal
  
• France
  
• England
  
• Sweden
  
• Russia
  
• Ireland
  
• Denmark
  
• Greece
  
• Czech Rep
  
• Ukraine
  
• Poland

[Arq]

rahul, on 17 November 2011 - 07:03 AM, said:

I'd love to see a group of Spain, Germany, Portugal and France

I wouldn't but that's me speaking as a Germany fan.

[ace]

Maverick, on 17 November 2011 - 06:54 AM, said:

Its been the same for a while now and I wouldn't want to see more teams just for the sake of numbers. When I look at those pots I don't see a single nation outside of those that would be missed. One could argue about Turkey but over two legs it was evident that they are some way from being Europe's elite. I wouldn't want to see Estonia vs Spain at a premier event like Euro championships.

I do agree that this tournament is fine as it is, but I think Europe is the only continent that can get away with adding to their continental championship without diluting the product too badly.  None of these "extra" 8 teams will be winning it anytime soon, but imagine the current field right now plus some of the following teams: Serbia, Turkey, Belgium, Switzerland, etc. I think overall the expansion is a good idea, although it helps that I am just a neutral fan.

[rahul]

Arq, on 17 November 2011 - 12:41 PM, said:

I wouldn't but that's me speaking as a Germany fan.

In my opinion, Germany are the second best team among the four, if not the best. If that group indeed got formed then my money would be on Germany qualifying to the knock outs.

[Arq]

rahul, on 18 November 2011 - 11:48 AM, said:

In my opinion, Germany are the second best team among the four, if not the best. If that group indeed got formed then my money would be on Germany qualifying to the knock outs.

I agree (personally, I think they are the best right now but they still have to beat Spain to prove it), but that doesn't mean I want them to go through a "group of death" just to make the knockout rounds.

[Sheva]

Group A

Poland
Greece
Russia
Czech Republic

Group B

Netherlands
Denmark
Germany
Portugal

Group C

Spain
Italy
Rep of Ireland
Croatia

Group D

Ukraine
Sweden
France
England

[Arq]

Group of Death... Group B and by a long shot.

Group of Weak... Group A.

[Valerie]

Holland are in for a quiet summer: after the group stage the orange guirlandes can be taken down, while we blame the Germans.

Edited by Valerie, 03 December 2011 - 02:51 PM.