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[BumsteadCFC]

Great post BL.  

The thing of it is this.  Keane and Scholes played together from 95 to 05 (roughly) and I have heard both referred to as the greatest midfielder (of their era).  

If that was true how come they only won 1 Champions League and even then didnt play in the final?  Dalglish and Souness won 3 together, Neeskens and Cryff have 3, Rikaard and Gullit have 2, but Scholes and Keane have 1.  I thought they were the greatest????

[BernardLambourde]

BumsteadCFC, on 22 December 2011 - 11:10 AM, said:

Great post BL.  

The thing of it is this.  Keane and Scholes played together from 95 to 05 (roughly) and I have heard both referred to as the greatest midfielder (of their era).  

If that was true how come they only won 1 Champions League and even then didnt play in the final?  Dalglish and Souness won 3 together, Neeskens and Cryff have 3, Rikaard and Gullit have 2, but Scholes and Keane have 1.  I thought they were the greatest????

Yup....and Xavi and Iniesta have 3 Champions League medals....as well as the World Cup and European Championships.  If you pointed this out to Xavi himself though.....he'd say it doesn't matter as he is sh*t compared to Scholesy.  Ha ha.

Regarding his personality and character which other people have brought into this.......I always find him quite drab.  Because he shuns the limelight and drives a modest car and lives in a modest house, people praise him.  If anything, I think he should be ridiculed for this.  All that money and he lives his life like a suburban mouse.  He should give me his money as he clearly doesn't know what he is doing with it.  Not saying he should be Michael Barrymore.....just less like Roy Cropper from Coronation Street.

[midlandblue]

Players normaly throw out these comments after the player has retired.

[Backbiter]

BernardLambourde, on 22 December 2011 - 10:43 AM, said:

  15 premier league goals from the 05/06 season to the 10/11 season is a pretty paltry return.  Lamps has scored 81 Premier League goals in those same seasons.

Yeah, 81 goals. Sounds good but they were all penalties. Or deflections. Or tap-ins. None of them really count.

[slackhands]

It's pretty hard to dispute all these great players getting a hard on over the fella though isn't it.... Tbh I thought Scholes was very strong mentally. Who cares if he didn't have all the skill in the world, he was still very effective at what he did do.  He was far more consistent than any other midfielder in the PL for a good while. In his early days I think I remember he wasn't very consistent at all, obv finding his feet. The fact is, the mental aspect obviously has alot to do with success on the pitch, and Scholes had that in abundance, and importantly he was able to maintain it for what seemed like forever. Top player/

Edited by slackhands, 22 December 2011 - 02:28 PM.

[Katon]

BumsteadCFC, on 22 December 2011 - 11:10 AM, said:

Great post BL.  

The thing of it is this.  Keane and Scholes played together from 95 to 05 (roughly) and I have heard both referred to as the greatest midfielder (of their era).  

If that was true how come they only won 1 Champions League and even then didnt play in the final?  Dalglish and Souness won 3 together, Neeskens and Cryff have 3, Rikaard and Gullit have 2, but Scholes and Keane have 1.  I thought they were the greatest????

Worse back line and strike force than their European opponents. United won the CL with Teddy Sheringham and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer up front; other teams from the same era won it with Raul, Ronaldo, and Shevchenko. Other than Schmeichel, the midfield was always the strongest bit of that United side by some distance. I wouldn't go for Scholes as the best passing midfielder of any part of his career, but Keane was up there with Davids and Redondo for the best of his type of midfielder around the turn of the century.