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[That Boy Brandinho]

Assuming hypothetically that Hazard and Hulk cost the same as Modric, Dempsey and Van der Wiel, which they almost certainly wouldn't, we'd be insane to choose the latter over the former.

[Snedger]

DoubleHelix74, on 24 May 2012 - 10:08 PM, said:

While confident, perhaps too much, the guy has marketed himself like Apple Computer does its products!  I think Chelsea is the best fit for him but I am not so sure Hazard is the best for Chelsea.  Great talent but here is why:

Too much money, would rather spend that money on a Modric, or another creative midfield with vision that would be more helpful to us.  If we need a player on the wing, there are a number of them like Honda, or Dempsey (to name a few) for much cheaper.  If City land Hazard, we hopefully would pursue Adam Johnson for half of what Hazard will cost.

I just think we can find so many better buys than Hazard and Hulk!  Not taking away their abilities by any means but it cost what 70-85M if we are lucky for them two.  We can spend 85M, land Modric, Honda or Dempsey and still bolster the RB position with maybe a Vander Wiel (sp?)... Not saying these are the guys but let's lock in a few good players who are not demanding high wages!  Still want to see Kakuta, Piazon, and some of the others get some playing time or at least loaned out in Piazon's case, though I think he could slip himself in our lineup already.  

With the amount of games we have next year, it be wise to carry a big squad than put all the money into two players, like Lucas, Neymar, Hazard, and/or Hulk...

But a big squad of merely decent players isn't likely to win things. I am covinced you need a big star. Drogba, Aguero, Tevez, Rooney, RVP etc, these types of players win big games. It'd be lovely if Torres was to be that player next year but I'm all for getting another one, just in case.

[sals]

David Luiz4, on 24 May 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

Reports from twitter are saying ''Eden Hazard: 'It will be Man Utd, Man City or Chelsea. Final choice depends on playing time & position.''

Ofcourse he's going to say that and its not because of the money, but i believe we'll give him the most playing time, as for position, it looks like he wants to be central. I'm sorry but there's only Juan Mata.

They both prefer to play centrally but both very gifted on the wing, sounds perfect to me, have those two constantly rotating positions on the field, potential to cause absolute carnage in the oppositions defence, this is a transfer that I would very much like to happen. Alraedy a great player potential to be up there with the very best

[That Boy Brandinho]

sals, on 24 May 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

They both prefer to play centrally but both very gifted on the wing, sounds perfect to me, have those two constantly rotating positions on the field, potential to cause absolute carnage in the oppositions defence, this is a transfer that I would very much like to happen. Alraedy a great player potential to be up there with the very best

Mata is far better centrally than on the wing. Even when he'd play out wide, he was most effective when he'd drift to the middle of the field. Not only that, but his extreme defensive ineptitude was a major reason why Ashley's play was so shaky early in the season. Mata belongs in the middle, both for his sake and for the team's.

[Castiel]

That Boy Brandinho, on 25 May 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:

Mata is far better centrally than on the wing. Even when he'd play out wide, he was most effective when he'd drift to the middle of the field. Not only that, but his extreme defensive ineptitude was a major reason why Ashley's play was so shaky early in the season. Mata belongs in the middle, both for his sake and for the team's.

I think its extremely unfair to blame Cole's poor form early in the season on Mata when he obviously couldn't be arsed to play to his best ability for AVB.  Sturridge did the minimum defensively and Ivanovich was consistently MoTM on the right in the same period.

[ozboy]

Sturridge did less than the minimum defensively. Despite his goals this season I wonder about his long term future. In the back half of the season Sturridge looked invisible with or without the ball. No penetration, no passing and no defence. I'm sure he is a much better player than that but needs to show it.