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[PloKoon13]

I'm seeing a lot of differing opinions on individual performances against Norwich so I thought this could be a decent debate arena.

[loz]

Not going to bother giving each player an individual mark. Easier just to group players.


Played very well - Luiz

Did everything expected of them - Cech

Average - Lampard, Lukaku, Essien, Terry

Poor - Torres, Mata, Ramires, Malouda

Really Poor - Sturridge, Cole, Bosingwa, Meireles

[bjd]

Nice idea - off the top of my head

Cech 7
Bos - 3
JT - 5
Luiz - 7
Cole - 4
Ramires - 5
Merieles - 5
Lampard - 6 (Malouda - 4)
Mata - 6
Torres - 5
Sturridge - 4

other subs not really long enough to be fairly judged, though i did think Lukaku looked half interested

[Zeta Orionis]

Cech - 6.5
Cole - 5.5
Terry - 6.5
Luiz - 7.5
Bosingwa - 5.5
Ramires - 5.5
Merieles - 6
Lampard - 6.5
Mata - 6
Torres - 5
Sturridge - 4.5

Malouda - 4
Lukaku - 6
Essien - 6

[Zola]

Cech 7 - Little to do
Bos - 1 - completely crap
JT - 6 - average
Luiz - 8 - played very well
Cole - 6 - tried his best, created a few crosses
Ramires - 5 - some terrible passing
Merieles - 1 - useless
Lampard - 5 (Malouda - 2) toothless
Mata - 5 - poor by his standards
Torres - 5- poor
Sturridge - 4 poorer


All in all a massive pile:

g

Edited by Zola, 21 January 2012 - 03:15 PM.

[BenR55]

Cech - 6
Cole - 5
Terry - 6
Luiz - 8
Bosingwa - 6
Ramires - 6
Merieles - 4
Lampard - 6
Mata - 6
Torres - 5
Sturridge - 6

Malouda - 1 - do better with 10 men then him playing
Lukaku - 6
Essien - 5

[PloKoon13]

Cech - didn't put a foot wrong that I saw, was strong and commanding - 8
Bosingwa - had a couple of moments of brilliance but generally shaky and his final ball was woeful (0 out of 8 crosses completed) - 5.5
Terry - was steady however he was caught in possession more often than I am used to seeing - 6
Luiz - excellent performance defensively and was also effective going forward - 9
Cole - he and Pilkington essentially neutralised each other - 6
Meireles - did reasonably well at keeping possession but wasn't particularly incisive. He also had a couple of hotheaded moments which could really have cost us if Clattenburg wasn't looking the other way - 6
Ramires - was lively as ever but his passing was pretty poor - 6.5
Lampard - I thought he was pinging the ball about quite nicely but ultimately didn't have much impact although we did miss his corner-taking ability - 7
Sturridge - Ineffective (the wrong-footed Naughton may have stopped him using his main trick of cutting inside) until he was moved onto the left but it was a little too late - 5.5
Torres - Had a few good moments and his touch was good in the first half, but a couple of sitters really sapped his confidence - 5.5
Mata - Didn't create much out wide and improved as Malouda came on. It certainly wasn't his best game though - 6.5
Subs:
Malouda - Thought he loooked good although it is a shame he didn't drift wide more often; created some chances late on - 7.5
Lukaku - He was quite lively although it seemed like he would have been better off staying central when we had possession in their half - 7
Essien - Solid and had a 100% pass completion rate - I certainly hope he returns to form as I forgot how cool he always looks - 7

Edited by PloKoon13, 21 January 2012 - 04:13 PM.

[bjd]

PloKoon13, on 21 January 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

Bosingwa - had a couple of moments of brilliance but generally shaky and his final ball was woeful (0 out of 8 crosses completed)

It simply cant be allowed to continue.

[blizeH]

Luiz was excellent, Lampard looked good when he was on, one of the few players in blue that seemed to know how to pass a ball. Cech solid, Torres was good other than the chance he squandered, but the rest left a lot to be desired.

Malouda was selfish, Bosingwa was woeful. Wasn't impressed by AVB either - Torres at least looked fairly dangerous, Mata and Sturridge should have came off long before him IMO. Hope the decision not to bring on Essien instead of Malouda, or play Bosingwa ahead of Ivan was purely down to the latter two coming back from injury and not being near 100% fit again.

[Nibs]

Funny how we see things similarly and yet so differently at the same time. I know people have their favourites but no way would I give Ash a higher mark than Bos today. Neither were great but Ash was as poor today as I have ever seen him. And Lamps getting as high a mark as a seven? He was on for about half an hour, took a few corners and did very little else!

Anyway for the record........

Cech - 7
Cole - 4
Terry - 6
Luiz - 8
Bosingwa - 5
Ramires - 6
Merieles - 5
Lampard - 5
Mata - 6
Torres - 5
Sturridge - 4

Malouda - 4
Lukaku - 6
Essien - 5

Edited by Nibs, 21 January 2012 - 04:23 PM.

[PloKoon13]

As with the subs (clearly Essien didn't offer as much to the overall 90-minute performance as some of the players to whom I gave a six) I tried to put Lampard's performance in the context of the time he was allowed. In retrospect 7 might have been a little generous but I wouldn't give him less than a 6.5.

[Zeta Orionis]

Lampard played well until he came off. He was actually playing some nice through balls for people. He did more in his 30 minutes than Ramires, Merieles and Malouda combined for the whole match.

[bjd]

I agree, in his time on the pitch i thought Lampard was the best of the midfield players we had out there at any stage today.

He was only half decent though, which says it all.

[sneakyolz]

Apart from the Villa game, this was one of the worst games I've watched for some time. No creativity what so ever.


Cech - 8 didn't really put a foot wrong
Cole - 3 one of the worst games I've seen him play
Terry - 5 average
Luiz - 7 for once was good but still had a few dodgy moments
Bosingwa - 1 absolutely useless
Ramires - 5 didn't see him do a lot, passing was poor
Merieles - 3 confimred that he is not good enough for chelsea (although at this rate he will be our star man)
Lampard - 5/6 was decent when on the ball, shame he went off as he would of won us the game
Mata - 5 poor passing but had a few moments of brilliance
Torres - 6/7 apart from his sitter, he looked decent
Sturridge - 3 ......

Malouda - 1 terrible player
Lukaku - 6 looked committed and clearly wants to prove himself
Essien - 6 didn't really see a lot of him but i cant wait for him to return

[2211]

Cech - 7    did'nt put a foot wrong, if i was being picky, i would say he could help start attacks quicker (think pepe reina and his quick throw outs)
Cole - 5 seems to struggle against everyone nowadays
Terry - 6    ok, done everything asked of him
Liuz - 8   had a good game and got forward well, i think he could be effective at right back if Cahill or Ivan was ever playing at centre back.
Boswingwa - 4   a terrible defender, i don't even think he's all that good going forward either. Would'nt get anywhere near any other team in the top 4
Merieles - 5   a squad player at best, not a starter, he did'nt even start matches at Liverpool anymore before we bought him.
Ramires - 6   looked better when he was allowed to venture forward more late on
Lampard - 5 started brightly before coming off injured.
Mata - 6 tried hard, but needs help in the creative department
Torres - 6 was doing ok until that miss, then went missing after that. I think being subbed could dent his confidence.
Sturridge -5   not one of his better days


Malouda - 6   ok, no urgency in his play though.
Lukaku  - 6    looked bright when he came on
Essien - 5 needs more games

Edited by 2211, 21 January 2012 - 11:28 PM.

[g3.7]

imagine us play with mata off the pitch!


...........................................cech
.
....................luiz........................................terry


bosingwa........................meireles.
........................................................................................cole
....................ramires
......................................................lampard
.......sturridge....................................................????

.........................................torres

now that might look like a static diagram, but I assure you the movement in the side has been accurately animated.

anyway

cech 6
bosingwa 3
cole 5
terry 5
luiz 6
meireles 4
ramires 4
lampard 5
sturridge 3
mata 5
torres 4

[charierre]

Cech - 7
Cole - 4
Terry - 6
Luiz - 8
Bosingwa - 4
Ramires - 6
Merieles - 4
Lampard - 6
Mata - 6
Torres - 5
Sturridge - 4

Malouda - 4
Lukaku - 6
Essien - 6

[icecoolguy22]

I thought we actually tried today, which made it even worse - we were not good enough to beat a newly promoted team.