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[Saaladin]

http://www.dailymail...n-der-Wiel.html

Could happen this month...

[blizeH]

Only 4 days of the transfer window left... will be interesting to see what happens with the VdW transfer, although I have to say I'm perfectly happy with Ivanovic at right back and would prefer if we bought some young, promising, inexpensive (basically, it'd be nice to find a right sided version of the Gareth Bale that joined Tottenham!) as backup.

Otherwise assuming we sign this guy for a hefty fee, he'll be a regular starter, meaning Ivanovic will be fighting it out with Luiz, Cahill and Terry for a CB start.

[ducavis]

Reckon Valencia were set to sign him for €12m which for a 21yr old established Dutch nationa is good value. Hearing we might be renewing Bosingwa's contract for an extra year; makes zero sense except we intend to sell him.

[Zola]

AVB said Bosingwa is going to get a contract extension

[Saaladin]

Zola, on 27 January 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

AVB said Bosingwa is going to get a contract extension

If true I simply don't get it....

[footballoholic]

ducavis, on 27 January 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

Reckon Valencia were set to sign him for €12m which for a 21yr old established Dutch nationa is good value.

He'll be 24 in a few days.

[Adamrb]

Bosingwa's extension is probably so we don't lose him on a free. I think we'll sell him in the summer. Where that leaves a VdW deal I don't know.

But I like him as an option. As avb would say, he's 'interesting'

[Zeta Orionis]

Heard mostly bad things about him, so would be very hesitant to us signing him.

[ace]

I wouldn't be completely against it, but Azpilicueta excites me more.

[Eggy McMuffin]

ace, on 27 January 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

I wouldn't be completely against it, but Azpilicueta excites me more.

That's how I see it.

[Spiller86]

Both are of questionable ability in my book. They are really no better defenders than Bosingwa is.

We should have learned our lesson for pursuing mediocre options at right back and stump out and go for one of the best. If we're really trying to put together a championship winning team before Ash and JT are gone, then Srna or Maicon are really the only options.

Both would cost no more than the arm and a leg that Ajax want for VDW.

[SydneyChelsea]

Both would be cheaper, as they don't have long to run on contracts I think.

[wxwax]

Buying 30 year old right backs isn't the right way to build for the future, which is the club's mission right now. This is not a squad that's just one or two players away.

[evissy]

I always think of Bertrand when I see this thread and think why is he not playing. Ash is great but as I've said before right and left back positions are not that crucial in football, not as important as CB. He'd do just fine.

Not sure if VDW would play that much either. He'd be a younger version of Bossy. Ivan is the defensive option and then we'd have two attacking options...We'd need a sure starter there. Is VDW that good?

[Spiller86]

30 yr old right backs who are quality for 4 years are a better option than 20 yr old right backs who are overpriced and not an improvement from the start.

Honestly Im getting the feeling that people think if you're beyond 25 then you're too old. A good team requires the best players. If your good enough you're old enough works both ways.

Edited by Spiller86, 28 January 2012 - 11:47 AM.

[wxwax]

Fullbacks need pace. 30 year old men are slowing down. It's a sad fact of life that the first thing to go are the legs. There's no future in buying a 30 year old for a position that demands a fast runner. Well, maybe in Italy. But not in England.

[dkw]

wxwax, on 28 January 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:

Fullbacks need pace. 30 year old men are slowing down. It's a sad fact of life that the first thing to go are the legs. There's no future in buying a 30 year old for a position that demands a fast runner. Well, maybe in Italy. But not in England.

That a rather weeping generalisation isnt it, all 30 year olds down slow down at all. Plus, the experience of a 30 year old can usually negate the slowing down anyway.

[wxwax]

dkw, on 28 January 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

That a rather weeping generalisation isnt it, all 30 year olds down slow down at all. Plus, the experience of a 30 year old can usually negate the slowing down anyway.

It's almost always true. The legs start going at around 30. Some players later than others, of course. But that's when the physical decline begins. (Ryan Giggs is a remarkable exception. He still has acceleration.)

Yes, a fullback can survive on guile and experience. But now you're compromising. And why compromise when you're planning for the future?

To reiterate, Chelsea are rebuilding. You don't buy 30 year olds when you're rebuilding. You buy them when you need one player to put you over the top. It just doesn't make sense to bring an aging player into Chelsea's situation.

Edited by wxwax, 28 January 2012 - 02:26 PM.

[dkw]

No it isnt true at all, Lampard was still one of the fittest players around at 30, Zola didnt do badly, Ash Cole isnt slow etc.....

[mad_mac]

I, for one, really hope we are in for him.