Chelsea v Man Utd (PL) 05/02/12 KO 16:00 GMT
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Davey Baby
, Feb 01 2012 09:08 AM
bent refereeing bias dubious
#1
Posted 01 February 2012 - 09:08 AM
Cech
Ivan
Bertrand
Luiz
Terry
Romeu
Essien
Lampard
Sturridge
Mata
Bosingwa
Yes, you heard me right. I would play Bossy on the right of a front three and play Sturridge up top. It won't happen though. Just as Bertrand won't happen.
Expect to see Bossy at left-back. Expect to see Torres up top. Expect to see Meireles in midfield ..
We win this we're 9 points behind Utd and the gloom lifts.
A penny for your thoughts .. ?
Ivan
Bertrand
Luiz
Terry
Romeu
Essien
Lampard
Sturridge
Mata
Bosingwa
Yes, you heard me right. I would play Bossy on the right of a front three and play Sturridge up top. It won't happen though. Just as Bertrand won't happen.
Expect to see Bossy at left-back. Expect to see Torres up top. Expect to see Meireles in midfield ..
We win this we're 9 points behind Utd and the gloom lifts.
A penny for your thoughts .. ?
#2
Posted 01 February 2012 - 10:56 AM
Howard Webb! Instant let down right there.
We are without Cole so I expect to see Bosingwa out there or Ferreira - no way in hell that Bertrand will get picked. (Bosingwa had one of his best games at LB when we played Barcelona away and actually handled Messi well). Anyway it does not matter who we pick at LB because they will need some back-up vs Valencia who has been one of their best players at late.
Lets hope Frank is fit for this one as we need the experience and also I think he should start Essien because he made such an impact coming on yesterday v Swansea - if hes fit enough he plays. End of.
----------------------Cech
Ivan---------Luiz-----------Terry--------Bosingwa
--------------------Romeu
---------Essien---------------Lampard
Sturridge----------------------------------Mata
--------------------Torres
Although I wouldnt mind a 4-2-3-1.
We are without Cole so I expect to see Bosingwa out there or Ferreira - no way in hell that Bertrand will get picked. (Bosingwa had one of his best games at LB when we played Barcelona away and actually handled Messi well). Anyway it does not matter who we pick at LB because they will need some back-up vs Valencia who has been one of their best players at late.
Lets hope Frank is fit for this one as we need the experience and also I think he should start Essien because he made such an impact coming on yesterday v Swansea - if hes fit enough he plays. End of.
----------------------Cech
Ivan---------Luiz-----------Terry--------Bosingwa
--------------------Romeu
---------Essien---------------Lampard
Sturridge----------------------------------Mata
--------------------Torres
Although I wouldnt mind a 4-2-3-1.
#3
Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:18 AM
I think we'll see Bertrand play.
Surely AVB is smart enough to realize that Bosingwa at LB is a terrible defender, having to defend on his wrong side, against one of the best wingers in the league. It is a recipe for disaster and if I see him line up there, I would have lost the little faith I have left in AVB.
Surely AVB is smart enough to realize that Bosingwa at LB is a terrible defender, having to defend on his wrong side, against one of the best wingers in the league. It is a recipe for disaster and if I see him line up there, I would have lost the little faith I have left in AVB.
#4
Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:46 AM
footballoholic, on 01 February 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:
I think we'll see Bertrand play.
Surely AVB is smart enough to realize that Bosingwa at LB is a terrible defender, having to defend on his wrong side, against one of the best wingers in the league. It is a recipe for disaster and if I see him line up there, I would have lost the little faith I have left in AVB.
Surely AVB is smart enough to realize that Bosingwa at LB is a terrible defender, having to defend on his wrong side, against one of the best wingers in the league. It is a recipe for disaster and if I see him line up there, I would have lost the little faith I have left in AVB.
as far defending on his wrong side goes . . . right footed LBs actually do better against wingers who like to cut inside
#5
Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:47 AM
footballoholic, on 01 February 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:
I think we'll see Bertrand play.
Surely AVB is smart enough to realize that Bosingwa at LB is a terrible defender, having to defend on his wrong side, against one of the best wingers in the league. It is a recipe for disaster and if I see him line up there, I would have lost the little faith I have left in AVB.
Surely AVB is smart enough to realize that Bosingwa at LB is a terrible defender, having to defend on his wrong side, against one of the best wingers in the league. It is a recipe for disaster and if I see him line up there, I would have lost the little faith I have left in AVB.
It'll be a big test for bertrand, but if he plays and comes out of it well I reckon it could be the making of him.
In fact, I reckon this match, could be the making of our season. Hopefully in a positive way.
#6
Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:59 AM
#7
Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:04 PM
United? Oh god.
#8
Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:08 PM
I would not play Sturridge in the middle. I don't think he's good enough to be honest, and I think he's massively overrated. I would play a 4-2-3-1 like we did against United in the second half at OT. We played so well in the second half and could've bought it back if Torres didn't miss that chance.
#9
Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:22 PM
Player/Player is based on injury availability.
My Team:
------------------------------------------------------Cech
----Ivanovic----------------------Luiz---------------------------Terry/Cahill------------------Bertrand
------------------------------------------Romeu-------------Essien
---------------------------Lampard/Merieles---------------------------Mata
---------------------------------------------------------------------Sturridge
------------------------------------------------Torres
AVB's Team:
------------------------------------------------------Cech
----Ivanovic----------------------Luiz-------------------------Terry/Cahill--------------Bosingwa
-----------------------------------------------------Romeu
--------------------------------Merieles----------------------Lampard/Malouda
------------Sturridge------------------------------------------------------------Mata
-----------------------------------------------Torres
My Team:
------------------------------------------------------Cech
----Ivanovic----------------------Luiz---------------------------Terry/Cahill------------------Bertrand
------------------------------------------Romeu-------------Essien
---------------------------Lampard/Merieles---------------------------Mata
---------------------------------------------------------------------Sturridge
------------------------------------------------Torres
AVB's Team:
------------------------------------------------------Cech
----Ivanovic----------------------Luiz-------------------------Terry/Cahill--------------Bosingwa
-----------------------------------------------------Romeu
--------------------------------Merieles----------------------Lampard/Malouda
------------Sturridge------------------------------------------------------------Mata
-----------------------------------------------Torres
#10
Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:37 PM
Why not...
--------------------Cech------------------
Ivan------Cahill--------Terry-----Bertrand
------------Romeu---------Essien------
Sturridge---------Lamps-----------Mata
--------------------Torres--------------
No knock on Luiz, but definitely want that JT/Cahill partnership going. Plus, JT knows the importance of this match. He needs to be in the lineup.
4-2-3-1 with Romeu and the Bison dropping back or pushing up as the case dictates.
--------------------Cech------------------
Ivan------Cahill--------Terry-----Bertrand
------------Romeu---------Essien------
Sturridge---------Lamps-----------Mata
--------------------Torres--------------
No knock on Luiz, but definitely want that JT/Cahill partnership going. Plus, JT knows the importance of this match. He needs to be in the lineup.
4-2-3-1 with Romeu and the Bison dropping back or pushing up as the case dictates.
#11
Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:42 PM
Webb reffing? I saw somewhere we have never beaten Utd when Webb is the ref. Great.
#12
Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:47 PM
#13
Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:57 PM
#14
Posted 01 February 2012 - 01:02 PM
Arq, on 01 February 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:
Why not...
--------------------Cech------------------
Ivan------Cahill--------Terry-----Bertrand
------------Romeu---------Essien------
Sturridge---------Lamps-----------Mata
--------------------Torres--------------
No knock on Luiz, but definitely want that JT/Cahill partnership going. Plus, JT knows the importance of this match. He needs to be in the lineup.
--------------------Cech------------------
Ivan------Cahill--------Terry-----Bertrand
------------Romeu---------Essien------
Sturridge---------Lamps-----------Mata
--------------------Torres--------------
No knock on Luiz, but definitely want that JT/Cahill partnership going. Plus, JT knows the importance of this match. He needs to be in the lineup.
-Luiz has been our best player the last few games and looks solid even to me(one of his biggest doubters). Plus he won us this fixture last season
-We'd have Bertrand making his first league start(incredible isn't it), and Cahill who hasn't played a minute for us.
-United have real pace upfront with Rooney(if fit)/Wellbeck+Chicharito, and that would be our slowest backline.
Edited by footballoholic, 01 February 2012 - 01:03 PM.
#15
Posted 01 February 2012 - 01:13 PM
I want the rest of the season to just skip forward quickly now.
#16
Posted 01 February 2012 - 01:32 PM
....................................Cech
Ivan...................Cahill............JT..................Bertrand ..........................
....................Essien.......................Luiz .......................................
...................................Lampard .......................................
...................................Torres .............................
........................Lukaku ..........Sturridge
Plan A
Torres, with the freedom to roam, positioned in behind Lukaku and Sturridge. Lukaku instructed to hold that central position at all costs. Sturridge also central when we have possession with instructions to play close off Lukaku, and with strict orders to fill the space out wide left when United have the ball. This would offer an added level of protection to Bertrand.
Advantages: complete freedom for Torres, Sturridge gets a try out centrally, two man screen in front of the back four.
Disadvantages: No Mata, little natural width, untried formation.
Plan B (attacking)
if Strurridge/Lukaku pairing isn't working or Sturridge isn't offering protection wide left, sub for Mata who moves into Torres position and Torres assumes Sturridge's spot.
There you go AVB, all done for you. Get the chalkboard and I'll draw it out.
Ivan...................Cahill............JT..................Bertrand ..........................
....................Essien.......................Luiz .......................................
...................................Lampard .......................................
...................................Torres .............................
........................Lukaku ..........Sturridge
Plan A
Torres, with the freedom to roam, positioned in behind Lukaku and Sturridge. Lukaku instructed to hold that central position at all costs. Sturridge also central when we have possession with instructions to play close off Lukaku, and with strict orders to fill the space out wide left when United have the ball. This would offer an added level of protection to Bertrand.
Advantages: complete freedom for Torres, Sturridge gets a try out centrally, two man screen in front of the back four.
Disadvantages: No Mata, little natural width, untried formation.
Plan B (attacking)
if Strurridge/Lukaku pairing isn't working or Sturridge isn't offering protection wide left, sub for Mata who moves into Torres position and Torres assumes Sturridge's spot.
There you go AVB, all done for you. Get the chalkboard and I'll draw it out.
Edited by just, 01 February 2012 - 01:44 PM.
#17
Posted 01 February 2012 - 01:37 PM
If he plays that formation I'll regret not having any Man Utd full-backs in my Fantasy Football team.
#18
Posted 01 February 2012 - 01:41 PM
Got to say I'm stunned people want luiz to be dropped when we have looked much better at the back recently and he has been great. For me he along with jt is the first name on the teamsheet at the moment.
As for this game I can tell you if we play a 4-3-3 we lose this game I have no doubts about. Get two up top with mata in behind and we have a chance. Torres seems to raise his game against united so let's hope for the same sunday!
As for this game I can tell you if we play a 4-3-3 we lose this game I have no doubts about. Get two up top with mata in behind and we have a chance. Torres seems to raise his game against united so let's hope for the same sunday!
Edited by Bluehatter, 01 February 2012 - 01:41 PM.
#19
Posted 01 February 2012 - 01:42 PM
While I desperately want Bertrand to play at LB, one plus vote Bosingwa has is that he did have Lionel Messi in his pocket at the Nou Camp under Hiddink....just saying.
If Malouda gets anywhere near the starting line-up for this one I will accept defeat right there. Essien should be starting, a midfield three of Romeu/Essien/Lampard or Meireles/Essien/Lampard would be my ideal choice, and the front three of Sturridge/Torres/Mata.
-----------------------Cech
--Ivanovic-----Luiz--------Terry-----Bertrand
-----------------------Romeu
------------Essien--------------Lampard
--Sturridge---------Torres------------Mata
If Malouda gets anywhere near the starting line-up for this one I will accept defeat right there. Essien should be starting, a midfield three of Romeu/Essien/Lampard or Meireles/Essien/Lampard would be my ideal choice, and the front three of Sturridge/Torres/Mata.
-----------------------Cech
--Ivanovic-----Luiz--------Terry-----Bertrand
-----------------------Romeu
------------Essien--------------Lampard
--Sturridge---------Torres------------Mata
#20
Posted 01 February 2012 - 01:44 PM
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