Who should replace McClaren?
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JT26CFC
, Nov 22 2007 03:32 AM
#1
Posted 22 November 2007 - 03:32 AM
McClaren is gone no question about it, but who will we see soon. Mourinho would be a good because back a few years ago he wanted to buy gerrard so he must've had a way that he would work lamps and gerrard together. Scolari could be replaced by mourinho in portugal and look for a job in england. It's a tough one cause i'd hate to be the person who has to pick up the pieces and build this team all over again.
#2
Posted 22 November 2007 - 03:37 AM
Special One for me, but I doubt he will take any country managing jobs atm. He has said he was too young for that kind of job in the past, but I might be wrong considering that Bilic is 39.
#3
Posted 22 November 2007 - 03:41 AM
Carlton Palmer , Garth Crooks or Steve Staunton . Dont think Ally McCloud is doing much either . {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif
If i was an England fan i'd be f**king livid right now . If i were an England fan i'd opt for Alan Shearer or Jose .
If i was an England fan i'd be f**king livid right now . If i were an England fan i'd opt for Alan Shearer or Jose .
#4
Posted 22 November 2007 - 05:21 AM
I really believe, even if Jose has tried to discourage any approach in the past, that the English FA will be doing everything in their might to lure Jose to become the next England boss and that Terry and Lampard will be key figures in this attempt.
Just think about it, there is no one better. Alan Shearer? I don't think so.
Jose knows intimately all there is to know about the English football scene, and he already knows better than anyone about 5 or 6 of the England regulars that used to play for him at Chelsea.
He will add some much needed self belief, and unite the dressing room, not to mention his tactics for the most part should fit England quite nicely. Obviously, England are not going to be able to play exactly like Jose's Chelsea as they lack a Makalele, etc..., but I do believe Jose will be able to do wonders with the raw material available to him.
England need a "winning" mentality, and the ability to grind out results when it matters. Jose excelled at that with Chelsea, for the most part.
Cheers,
Butch
Just think about it, there is no one better. Alan Shearer? I don't think so.
Jose knows intimately all there is to know about the English football scene, and he already knows better than anyone about 5 or 6 of the England regulars that used to play for him at Chelsea.
He will add some much needed self belief, and unite the dressing room, not to mention his tactics for the most part should fit England quite nicely. Obviously, England are not going to be able to play exactly like Jose's Chelsea as they lack a Makalele, etc..., but I do believe Jose will be able to do wonders with the raw material available to him.
England need a "winning" mentality, and the ability to grind out results when it matters. Jose excelled at that with Chelsea, for the most part.
Cheers,
Butch
#5
Posted 22 November 2007 - 06:11 AM
I agree that the English FA would LOVE to sign Mourinho, but I still think Mourinho isn't interested in signing for them.
#6
Posted 22 November 2007 - 07:18 AM
I reckon Harry Redknapp should have a go at it. Failing that I wouldn't mind Shearer doing the job.
#7
Posted 22 November 2007 - 08:21 AM
FFS Don't people ever learn? On what basis should Shearer be the England manager? Has he ever managed any team? Even Grant is more qualified than him {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif
#8
Posted 22 November 2007 - 09:20 AM
Jose's also said in the past that he feels national teams should be managed by someone from that country, which rules him out unless a very pursuasive offer from the FA makes him reconsider that opinion....Doubt it though.
Knowing Barwick and Co we'll end up with Ian Dowie....
Knowing Barwick and Co we'll end up with Ian Dowie....
#9
Posted 22 November 2007 - 09:26 AM
Stuart Pearce for me
Lets give him a try and build a team for South Africa 2010 . Support him with a good back room staff . Give him more time with the players introduce a winter break .
Lets give him a try and build a team for South Africa 2010 . Support him with a good back room staff . Give him more time with the players introduce a winter break .
#10
Posted 22 November 2007 - 09:31 AM
"ethicalstrategy":1ya2z8qk said:
FFS Don't people ever learn? On what basis should Shearer be the England manager? Has he ever managed any team? Even Grant is more qualified than him {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif
Easy tiger.
Why can't Shearer have a go? He can't be any worse than what McClaren was, and other top nations have given their top job to untested people, (Germany with Klinsman, Holland with Rijkaard and now van Basten) so why can't we? The players are out there, they just need a leader and a manager they respect who can get them playing together, somebody who knows what it's like to play under the immense and undue pressure we put the England team under.
#11
Posted 22 November 2007 - 09:34 AM
"clubhappy":3st21f4m said:
Carlton Palmer , Garth Crooks or Steve Staunton . Dont think Ally McCloud is doing much either . {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif
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Steve Bruce was supposed to join Wigan yesterday, but things were held up due to some 'complication'. Wonder if that 'complication' was waiting to see whether England & McClaren won or lost???
Personally, I think England's best choice would be either Stuart Pearce or Harry Redknapp. Trouble is, whoever takes over has got to be a "yes man" (so that rules Jose out), and nothing will really change much.
The answer, of course, is to get rid of the FA - clear the f*ckin' lot out and start afresh, with football minded younger men who have the guts to employ someone who won't take any sh*t. Never gonna happen, naturally, and so it goes on........
#12
Posted 22 November 2007 - 09:37 AM
If I had to go English I would opt for Harry (I think Pearce would be a dreadful choice, just as the FA sholuld have looked closely at how McLaren had Boro playing they should also look closely at how Pearce had City playing) however I am hopeful the FA don't bow to public pressure and go for a foreign manager again.
We just don't have the ability in England at the moment.
We just don't have the ability in England at the moment.
#13
Posted 22 November 2007 - 09:51 AM
Amazing!! just listening to Sky Sports, and all the incoming faxes and Emails are calling for JM to take over the job saying he is the best manager of the last few years, he is the only one who can restore our pride Blah,Blah,Blah!! are these the same tossers who were calling for his blood and calling him a disgrace to football etc, every time he pissed someone off while he was our manager??
I would love Jose to give them and the FA the two fingers (remembering all those charges they landed him with) and save himself the inevitable sh*t he would get if he failed to win the world cup or take England on a 3 year "unbeaten at home" run.`
JOSE ! STAY CLEAR OF THIS POISONED CHALICE !!!
I would love Jose to give them and the FA the two fingers (remembering all those charges they landed him with) and save himself the inevitable sh*t he would get if he failed to win the world cup or take England on a 3 year "unbeaten at home" run.`
JOSE ! STAY CLEAR OF THIS POISONED CHALICE !!!
#14
Posted 22 November 2007 - 09:51 AM
"loz":1xaexuuh said:
If I had to go English I would opt for Harry (I think Pearce would be a dreadful choice, just as the FA sholuld have looked closely at how McLaren had Boro playing they should also look closely at how Pearce had City playing) however I am hopeful the FA don't bow to public pressure and go for a foreign manager again.
We just don't have the ability in England at the moment.
We just don't have the ability in England at the moment.
The main difference between McClaren and Pearce is that Pearce was, and still is, highly respected as one of England's most passionate players.
I think some of Pearce's weaknesses as manager came from his inability in the transfer market - something that an international manager doesn't have to worry about. If you want a manager to really motivate an England team, there's no-one better than Pearce.
Harry would be an excellent choice too, though {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif
#15
Posted 22 November 2007 - 09:53 AM
"sweet waffle":mkjyvi6n said:
"ethicalstrategy":mkjyvi6n said:
FFS Don't people ever learn? On what basis should Shearer be the England manager? Has he ever managed any team? Even Grant is more qualified than him {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif
Easy tiger.
Why can't Shearer have a go? He can't be any worse than what McClaren was, and other top nations have given their top job to untested people, (Germany with Klinsman, Holland with Rijkaard and now van Basten) so why can't we? The players are out there, they just need a leader and a manager they respect who can get them playing together, somebody who knows what it's like to play under the immense and undue pressure we put the England team under.
Klinsmann, Rijkaard and Van Basten weer more than just good players, they were also intelligent players. Shearer is the village idiot who was good at football. He also has a huge ego and I am not convinced he would be a manger that players would respect.
#16
Posted 22 November 2007 - 09:58 AM
"loz":2lbhni6r said:
"sweet waffle":2lbhni6r said:
"ethicalstrategy":2lbhni6r said:
FFS Don't people ever learn? On what basis should Shearer be the England manager? Has he ever managed any team? Even Grant is more qualified than him {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif
Easy tiger.
Why can't Shearer have a go? He can't be any worse than what McClaren was, and other top nations have given their top job to untested people, (Germany with Klinsman, Holland with Rijkaard and now van Basten) so why can't we? The players are out there, they just need a leader and a manager they respect who can get them playing together, somebody who knows what it's like to play under the immense and undue pressure we put the England team under.
Klinsmann, Rijkaard and Van Basten weer more than just good players, they were also intelligent players. Shearer is the village idiot who was good at football. He also has a huge ego and I am not convinced he would be a manger that players would respect.
Fair point, the thing is most Ex-England players are idiots so we've got slim pickings in that regard.
#17
Posted 22 November 2007 - 10:22 AM
http://www.skysports...2896123,00.html
Jose bookies favourite?
Maybe I was wrong........
Unfortunately, I don't even Mourinho can save England. I just think its one of those jobs that the way things are at the moment no-one can succeed.
Jose bookies favourite?
Maybe I was wrong........
Unfortunately, I don't even Mourinho can save England. I just think its one of those jobs that the way things are at the moment no-one can succeed.
#18
Posted 22 November 2007 - 10:35 AM
"sweet waffle":3mbm90i8 said:
"ethicalstrategy":3mbm90i8 said:
FFS Don't people ever learn? On what basis should Shearer be the England manager? Has he ever managed any team? Even Grant is more qualified than him {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif
Easy tiger.
Why can't Shearer have a go? He can't be any worse than what McClaren was, and other top nations have given their top job to untested people, (Germany with Klinsman, Holland with Rijkaard and now van Basten) so why can't we? The players are out there, they just need a leader and a manager they respect who can get them playing together, somebody who knows what it's like to play under the immense and undue pressure we put the England team under.
If you can't see that it is folly to appoint a manager who has either a) no track record as a manager or
Being a good player doesn't make you anymore likely to be a good manager than a good commentator or after dinner speaker. If Shearer wants to be England manager one day then let him get a job managing a club, build up his experience and allow himself the chance to find out whether he has what it takes to do the basic job before tackling something more tricky.
#19
Posted 22 November 2007 - 10:51 AM
"ethicalstrategy":xjr6d1cr said:
"sweet waffle":xjr6d1cr said:
"ethicalstrategy":xjr6d1cr said:
FFS Don't people ever learn? On what basis should Shearer be the England manager? Has he ever managed any team? Even Grant is more qualified than him {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif {SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif
Easy tiger.
Why can't Shearer have a go? He can't be any worse than what McClaren was, and other top nations have given their top job to untested people, (Germany with Klinsman, Holland with Rijkaard and now van Basten) so why can't we? The players are out there, they just need a leader and a manager they respect who can get them playing together, somebody who knows what it's like to play under the immense and undue pressure we put the England team under.
If you can't see that it is folly to appoint a manager who has either a) no track record as a manager or
Being a good player doesn't make you anymore likely to be a good manager than a good commentator or after dinner speaker. If Shearer wants to be England manager one day then let him get a job managing a club, build up his experience and allow himself the chance to find out whether he has what it takes to do the basic job before tackling something more tricky.
For me personally I really don't see the England job as "tricky". You travel around the country looking at the best players, getting reports from your scouts on the best players and then you have to pick a system and the players that fit into that system. For me the recent England managers have over complicated the role, by firstly refusing to drop out of form players when necessary, playing players out of their natural position and messing around with different systems mid stream.
#20
Posted 22 November 2007 - 11:14 AM
you need someone able to create something successful with your style of players (players who can't pass) or to teach/force them to pass at the tender age of 28+.
group 1: mourinho/capello
Definitely not harry redknapp- Redknapp's success has been based on getting quality players cheap, and generally having a good eye for selection and transfer. picking out players like mendes and so on. He's no tactical genius and the england side when fit practically picks itself.
The second option is someone able to change the style you play. I don't see many top class options available for that at the moment.
avram grant perhaps...
group 1: mourinho/capello
I'd be interested in England job, says Capello MILAN, Nov 22 (Reuters) - Former Real Madrid coach Fabio Capello has said he would be interested in the England manager's job. England failed to qualify for Euro 2008 after losing 3-2 at home to Croatia on Wednesday and coach Steve McClaren is expected to be sacked. The 61-year-old Capello, who achieved huge success with AC Milan in the 1990s and also won Italian titles with Juventus and AS Roma, has often spoken of his desire to coach England. 'It would be a beautiful challenge. I am the right age. It is a battle,' Capello told Thursday's Gazzetta dello Sport. The Italian was dismissed as Real coach at the end of last season despite winning the Spanish title and is now working as a commentator for Italy's Rai television. He is well aware of England's problems, however. 'There are too many foreign players and the players are used to another way of playing,' he said of England while commentating on Italy's 3-1 win over Faroe Islands on Wednesday. Former Chelsea coach Jose Mourinho is the bookmakers' favourite if McClaren is sacked.
Definitely not harry redknapp- Redknapp's success has been based on getting quality players cheap, and generally having a good eye for selection and transfer. picking out players like mendes and so on. He's no tactical genius and the england side when fit practically picks itself.
The second option is someone able to change the style you play. I don't see many top class options available for that at the moment.
avram grant perhaps...
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