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  1. 41 points
    BCFC22

    Tammy Abraham

    Good evening all you Blues fans Hope you don't mind but Im a Bristol City fan visiting your forum as I thought I'd take the time to pass on some comments about ( your )Tammy Abraham Im no starry eyed teenager but a a mid 50s , bit of a grumpy , Bristol City follower ,and someone who is losing love for the game I've lived and breathed for 50yrs Ironically the Blues are a team I followed closely for a number of years after you signed my childhood Chris Garland in early 70s, I even have a slightly scratched prized 'Blue is the colour' 45' !! I had a 10year spell scouting for a number of League Clubs and spend periods of games even now watching individual players rather than the game / following the ball so like to think I can provide a reasonable assessment of a player. So Tammy Abraham... First and foremost , alongside just about virtually every City fan I know , we are extremely grateful to Chelsea that have been fortunate enough to loan Tammy this season. If we avoid relegation it will be largely off the back of this lads young shoulders. Without him we would have been dead and buried weeks ago Im not a close follower of Premiership Football (Seems a million miles away from where we are) , particularly in respect of watching games in the flesh, and so I'm not in a educated position to say whether Tammy is likely to break through at his home club. As a top four club , who sign players of the quality of Hazzard , Costa etc I fully understand how and why it's always going to be ridiculously tough to break into such a quality side Ive seen all but two of our games this season and increasingly been watching Tammy and his development in his first taste of senior football. Tammys goal return as a standalone stat is indeed impressive but I can assure you doesn't IMHO come close to reflecting his ability or contribution The Championship , is a tough place to make an impact , especially at his age, and He has scored 22 goals this season in a very poor side in turmoil. He's scored those goals , in spite of extremely poor service and support , not because of decent or even reasonable service and support. He has been deployed for virtually the whole of the season as a lone striker with an overweight and unfit Lee Tomlin deployed as a 10 to support him, which he doesn't , save for a single game in front of Sky Cameras !!! As a result Tammy has been a isolated figure up top with poor support and a service normally thrown in his general direction and often somewhere around his throat. Centre halves in the Championship tend to be physical, often with some premiership experience and I'd say are probably more physical (as they can get away with a bit more in Championship !) and this lad has in truth, been battered most of the season from two centre halves in opposition sides , as I said often in a losing cause with dreadful support and Service. From the first minute he has appeared for us , does this lad lose faith or become demoralised - Not a bit , on a dozen or so occasions this season I've Sen him clattered and go or stay down in obvious pain but the lad gets treatment , gets up, and shakes himself down , time after time , game after game .... fantastic Every single game the lad comes off the pitch having left absolutely everything on it - fantastic to see, noticed, and appreciated by suppporters - the standard response to our (regular) defeats has been 'Tammy , Tammy ....Abraham' ringing round the ground , just that , always that , which sort of says everything Hes a talented lad no doubt, good first touch , with decent service can hold the ball up well and link play, and a willing runner in the channels.His finishing is pretty damned good, not perfect but he has the skill of finding space in the box and reading the game to be in the right place to poach goals - lovely to see a poacher, but he's a whole lot more than that and has shown when on the rare occasions he's clever enough and good enough to make the most of any decent service. He's not the polished gem yet but has developed even with us and has got to grips with the physicality and pace of First Team football week by week In my 50 years of following my club , as some of you will have , I've seen hundreds and hundreds of players and over a hundred loanees In all those years Tammy comes a very close second to Andy Cole in the obvious and significant impact he's had at our club over all those years As good as Andy Cole , close but not quite , but Cole was 21 when he came to us and Tammy has another two years before you could make a fair comparison - In two years time Tammy will be up there with a 21 yr old Andy Cole from what I have seen. I won't try and tell you anymore about your player whose career I will follow closely - I have no doubt that he will go on to forge a good career in the Premier League , hopefully in a Chelsea shirt and I'm confident that he will represent his country, possibly as a mainstay in a few years time So a massive Thankyou for the privilege of having this lad at Ashton Gate this season And finally and most importantly Ive started to fall out of love with the modern game and the modern footballer , full of ego and only interested in £££ , but this lad is a complete breath of fresh air in absolutely everything , about his commitment , humility , attitude , desire - truly awesome The way he conducts himself both on and off the pitch has been a complete joy as has witnessing his obvious and deep desire to play well and to achieve results His interaction with supporters is a joy and he has become admired and idolised amongst our fanabse and will walk our player and young player of the year and rightly so Embarrassingly his desire , commitment and obvious pain when the final whistle blows and we have been beaten is far in excess of every single one of our own players ( At Brentford on Saturday he mouthed 'Sorry' to our away following !!!! as he left the pitch after another defeat, despite having played HIS heart out for 90 mins ploughing a lone furrow up front again - when do you ever see that from a modern player !!) I have some connections at Bristol City and reports of this lad confirm everything I've witnessed, humble, extremely hard working, always has a smile on his face, eager to learn and improve ..... tick tick tick This lad has Id suggest a World Class attitude , whatever his ability is eventually assessed to be and I , as a football fan hope the lad goes on to have a fantastic career at the highest level and reaps the rewards that would bring .... because you know what..... this kid deserves everything he gets I thought you may like a third part view of the lad from someone whose seen lots of him this season and watched him closely in all aspects If he gets the chance at Stamford Bridge please get behind this lad as he is a gem , certainly attitude wise and will give everything for the shirt , that I can promise you He is a complete credit To Chelsea Football Club, to the academy and the staff that work there Most of all he's a credit to his parents , and most of all to himself - So nice to say that about a young modern footballer I will be really sad to see this lad go back to you in May as he's helped me keep some faith in modern day footballers Good luck for the rest of the season - undoubtedly another title possibly a double is on its way :) Love Conte - Think you are in for some years of sustained success !!!
  2. 27 points
    Hi guys. Hope you're all well. Don't we all love West Ham a little bit more? Or should I say, dislike them a little bit less? Erm, yes I think we do. Anyway, on the occasion of that brilliant victory last night, I thought I would write some thoughts on Antonio Conte's management this term. For me, he's passed every single test with flying colours, so far. Obviously there's still five very important matches still to be played and I hope this post isn't premature, but I thought I'd put these thoughts down anyway, as I'm feeling lucky. The first thing we have to remember is that he only joined us after the Euros. In other words, he started later than everyone else. Furthermore, this was his first time outside Italy, in a tough league, a new language, etc etc. It's easy to forget this in light of how well he's done. Mourinho had managed 6 seasons in England prior to this one, this is Pochettino's fourth season in England, Klopp had had time to adjust to England last season and Guardiola had a whole summer to focus on his new job, plus an unlimited budget. And then there's Wenger....... When you look at Arsenal, their fans often complain about their players. They say their signings aren't good enough, the likes of Mustafi, Xhaka etc. They complain about Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ramsay, Ozil, Giroud, Bellerin, Coquelin, Mertesacker, Monreal, Gibbs etc etc. They complain about ALL their players, apart from maybe one or two. The problem it strikes me is not the players but the manager and this is where Conte comes in. Conte gets the best out of his players whereas others patently don't. We're top of the league with a back three of David Luiz, Gary Cahill and Azpilicueta, with Azpilicueta as a right-sided CB and Gary Cahill as the left-sided one. This back three have played every single Premiership game together since Luiz came into the team. Luiz, remember, was mocked upon his return. Cahill will never be considered an elite player. Azpilicueta is hardly the tall, strong prototype for CBs up and down the Premiership. It's an unlikely combination, to put it mildly. Furthermore, we all know Conte had his heart set on other defenders in August, but it hardly mattered, because this guy knows how to get the best out of what he's got. Look at Luiz. He's been outstanding this season. Even his fiercest critic would admit that. We all knew he had ability but did he have defensive discipline? Conte has given him that discipline. Luiz likes to get involved in the game, to run upfield, to carry the ball, to go chasing the ball, to run out of position. We all know this. Conte had to get inside his head. He had to change his game completely. In a way, he had to take the fun out of it. He had to say to Luiz, "Look, I know you enjoy playing the game a certain way, but I want you to play another way, I want you to enjoy defending, I want you to enjoy being the leader at the back, the guy who hangs back, I want you to enjoy stopping, heading and clearing and tackling and blocking, I want you to enjoy that". Look at the transformation. When Luiz went down against Tottenham at Wembley, when Alli stamped on him, how did you feel? I bet you all had your heart in your mouth. Luiz has become a key player. Enormous credit must go to the manager, remember this was a player Mourinho couldn't wait to get rid of. From the moment Mourinho arrived he let it be leaked that he was open to offers for Luiz and Mata. Those were two players he deemed a luxury. Nobody's calling Luiz a luxury now. Let's move to Cahill. I've never been a massive fan. This has undoubtedly been his most impressive season. Remember the Arsenal defeat and how poor he was? That followed poor performances at Swansea and also Leicester in the LC. His confidence was shot he looked a liability. Unbelievably, Conte changed the system, kept Cahill in the team and moved him out of position. Cahill is bad enough with his right foot let alone his left. He is as poor with his left foot as anybody you've seen, yet he's been immaculate since switching to the left, been a real important cog in the machine. He was missing against Tottenham yet we hardly missed him because Ake came in. I read these boards prior to the next game against Southampton and everybody was saying Ake should keep his place. Not Conte. In his pre-match press conference he said Cahill was coming back, because, and I quote, "Cahill is a player with a big heart". Imagine how Cahill felt, hearing that. Cahill came back in the team and scored the vital goal before half-time, a header with a big heart. Brilliant management. He made Cahill feel that little bit bigger, that little bit stronger, that little bit more important. Remember Conte was also a limited player. A limited player with a big heart. This guy doesn't need a team chock-full of superstars. Talking of that game at Wembley. Remember seeing the team-sheet before the game? No Hazard no Costa no Fabregas? Where was the wit and invention and goals going to come from? Didn't Conte understand how important this game was, against Tottenham? I remember reading the match thread before the game, let's not pretend we were all calm about things. For me, this was Conte's most inspired and impressive move this season, and not only because he was able to bring on the big-hitters after an hour and win the game. More, it was his treatment of Costa and I was surprised nobody commented on it. Conte had a problem with Costa, a massive problem. He needed to drop him, we all knew that. The guy just wasn't performing, the guy didn't appear to have his heart in it. Every player is permitted the odd bad game especially if they've been so pivotal in propelling you up the league, but if it carries on you have a problem, not just because they're playing badly but also because it creates a credibility problem with the rest of the squad. You're supposed to pick the team on merit, right? How do you justify continually picking somebody who's forgotten how to play? Furthermore, we were in a bit of a pickle going into Wembley. We had lost to Palace and there was THAT performance at Old Trafford, where we didn't turn up for whatever reason. The trouble was, Costa is a problem player, he's high maintenance, to put it mildly. If you drop him, particularly for a showpiece game, his pride will be pricked, you may lose the player completely, he may become a disruptive influence, you have to tread with caution because you might have an even bigger problem on your hands............ What did Conte do? He dropped Costa AND he dropped Hazard, our best player, our superstar, our game-breaker, our magic man, against Tottenham in a potentially title-defining game, at Wembley in a semi-final. This would have massaged Costa's ego. This would have told Costa, you and Hazard are my main men, I'm leaving my big-hitters out of this game because I need you more against Southampton, because you're too important, because I can always rely on you from the bench. Instead of injuring Costa's pride he pumped it up. He made him feel bigger instead of smaller, and look, he came back with a bang against Southampton. Expert management. Incredible management in fact. He dropped him and he made him feel bigger. Now that's a feat. Management is all about problem-solving. Conte had a problem and he solved it. Remember Mourinho trying to drop Costa at WHL and remember how that worked out? Costa threw his bib, he sulked on the touchline and Mourinho's authority was diminished. You have to play these things right. You have to manage the man, and Conte has been managing the man all season, the very difficult man. I bet he can't wait to get shot of him this summer but in the meantime he has to manage his squad, he has to win football matches, and that's where Conte excels, he doesn't get into personality politics, he doesn't get sidetracked he doesn't focus on the noise, he stays focused and he never loses sight of his task. He always seems to see the bigger picture rather than getting embroiled in the trivial. He's not interested, he has a title to win. Remember when the sh*t hit the fan with Costa, back in the winter, when this offer came in from China? Again, Conte overcame that potential crisis with little fuss. We lost our record at WHL, Costa argued with Pedro on the pitch, news came in about a bust-up behind the scenes, Costa was out of the next game at Leicester, supposedly with a back injury. This had the potential to derail our season. We lose to Leicester and the vultures will really be circling. What happened? We dispatched of Leicester with ease, and we showed great unity. From a position of potential weakness we emerged stronger, and you could see how pumped up the players were and how important the win was. Nobody was going to be allowed to be distracted from the cause. Again at Wembley, we had a potential problem, Tottenham were on an incredible run, we had started to wobble, our lead had been reduced, Tottenham were feeling invincible, the media were doing their best to ramp it up. We did what we had to do. We showed our mettle and our quality. Don't underestimate the importance of that victory. Conte was brave, with his team selection. He was vindicated, as he's invariably been this season. Alonso and Moses. These guys wouldn't get into a bottom half team at the start of the season. They've been brilliant. They've both been key. When we sign a player I usually go visit the selling club's online forums to see what their fans think about it. Fans are usually the best barometer because they see the player week-in week-out. The Fiorentina fans were laughing, when we signed Alonso. They couldn't believe the fee. It's not that they thought he was bad, but they didn't see anything special. They said he was a liability defensively with a tendency to switch off. They said he lacked pace, etc etc. It's fair to say I was underwhelmed with the signing. I couldn't see the sense in it, particularly when we had Ake on our books and whom we could have kept. I assumed we signed Alonso because we lacked left-footers and we needed cover, both in the CB and FB departments, and that was it. Then he played, when we switched to a back three, and he looked out of his depth, he was torn to ribbons on a couple of occasions, it didn't look good. Conte knew what he was doing however. Alonso has great stamina, he's great positionally, he's an elegant footballer rather than an exceptional one but Conte has got inside his head and got the best out of him. When was the last time he was seriously troubled on his flank? Man City away? That was a long time ago now. He has become a serious footballer under Conte. Furthermore, as the season has progressed and the pressure mounted, players like Alonso and Moses are in unchartered territory. How will they cope with the pressure will their performances falter? You'd never know they've never been in this position before and again for that Conte deserves enormous credit. He's stayed calm and he's allowed his players to stay calm. If you'd seen our line-up before the season started, the first choice XI we'd be going with this season, with Luiz and Cahill and Alonso and Moses and Matic and Pedro, you'd have thought top four was a pipe dream. It's worth remembering that when we reflect on Conte's performance. Unlike Wenger, this guy gets the best out of his performers. This guy knows how to manage them. There was a time recently when I started to get a little worried. Performances had dipped. Luiz, Moses, Matic, Pedro, Costa etc, they weren't playing quite as well. It's one thing getting your players to perform but when they lose form you have to perform another task. That's where your management is really tested. I look at those players now and they're all back on track. Last season, once players lost their form, Jose had no idea how to get it back. Conte's management appears to be a bit more subtle. Conte has asserted himself where he's needed to. When he's needed to, such as against Mourinho in the FA Cup, he bared his teeth. He showed he's going to be nobody's pushover, he's not going to allow anybody to take liberties. He hasn't gone looking for trouble however, he hasn't invited controversy, nor gone seeking attention. He's a breath of fresh air. Let's not underestimate the task he had. He's brought the good times back, he's brought back the feel-good factor. Watching Chelsea is a delight again. Our best players are allowed to play, he doesn't clip their wings, yet we're organised, we're well-drilled and we fight. He's got the balance right and that's why we're where we are in the league. Don't forget this is the most competitive Premiership there's ever been, with more clubs with greater resources and more high-profile managers. We were not supposed to be in the mix. You talk to fans of other clubs. Ask them what they think of Conte. He's the best thing that's happened to this club in a very long while. This season he's provided an object lesson in the art of management. The way he's handled Terry the way he's handled Fabregas. Willian was our POTY last season yet he's invariably on the bench. Yet it's all happened with little fuss, with everybody committed to the cause. Sometimes a manager comes in and you think, "This job's too big for him". I have never had that feeling with Conte. Conte does things his way but he doesn't make a song and dance about it. I hope Roman appreciates the quality of his work and I hope he rewards him this summer, in the form of purchasing the players he wants. Whoever Conte asks for he should get because he's done enough to earn our trust. This guy is a far better manager than I ever imagined. This season has surpassed all our expectations by a million miles. We are incredibly lucky. Courtois, Hazard, Costa, Pedro, Matic, Cahill. Think about their performances last season. There is no comparison. Conte has restored their belief and their confidence and we're reaping the reward. Ultimately as a manager you live or die by your decisions. You decide who to back and who to discard, you decide what to say and what to do, you pick the side and the formation. I can't think of too many bad decisions, can you? Not bad, considering how many decisions you have to make in a season. We're already a good team. Imagine if Conte gets the players he wants. I think we all know there's room for improvement, and that's what makes his performance this season so impressive. Lastly, I'll end this mammoth post with a quote from Conte's press conference yesterday. Typically in his press conferences he preaches the value of hard work, good behaviour and so on. He stresses the importance of remaining focused and together. He reminds players to think about the team rather than themselves. Yesterday he expanded a little bit and it was quite unexpected. I usually like Conte because he's so serious, especially when we lose. On the touchline he's full of passion but away from the pitch you get the feeling he's a deep thinker and that's what I want from a Chelsea coach. Yesterday we got a little glimpse into his world. He was asked if he could continue keeping Fabregas happy if he can't offer him a starting berth. Here's his response....... "I'd like to underline a concept. I mustn't keep happy the player. We must win. You can be happy and arrive tenth and to play every game. If you are unhappy in this season that you are fighting for the title or to win the FA Cup? I don't like when I listen this type of question. I don't like. You speak about happy and I speak to win, and to work very hard. I know that to work very hard is not simple. The player is not always happy to work very hard but I think that my target is to put in the head of my players a winning mentality, and a winning mentality doesn't exist to keep the players happy because it's very difficult to keep twenty players happy, above all because I don't want to, I don't want this, I don't want this, I want players ready to fight and to try to put themselves in the team and to try to win together. Then if you are happy or unhappy I don't care for me." I don't care either Antonio. You just keep doing what you're doing. You're doing a f**king incredible job.
  3. 24 points
    Jezz

    2010s

    With the decade near its conclusion, it's worth looking back on what we've produced over the last decade before we enter the 2020s. Record (all competitions) Played: 571 Won: 332 Draw: 118 Loss: 121 Winning % = 58.14% Trophies Premier League (2009/2010) FA Cup (2009/2010) FA Cup (2011/2012) Champions League (2011/2012) Europa League (2012/2013) League Cup (2014/2015) Premier League (2014/2015) Premier League (2016/2017) FA Cup (2017/2018) Europa League (2018/2019) Trophy Breakdown Champions League = 1 Premier League = 3 FA Cup = 3 League Cup = 1 Europa League = 2 Competitions (Year-by-Year) Premier League 2009/2010 = CHAMPIONS (86 points) 2010/2011 = 2nd (71 points) 2011/2012 = 6th (64 points) 2012/2013 = 3rd (75 points) 2013/2014 = 3rd (82 points) 2014/2015 = CHAMPIONS (87 points) 2015/2016 = 10th (50 points) 2016/2017 = CHAMPIONS (93 points) 2017/2018 = 5th (70 points) 2018/2019 = 3rd (72 points) FA Cup 2009/2010 = WINNERS 2010/2011 = 4th Round 2011/2012 = WINNERS 2012/2013 = Semi Final 2013/2014 = 5th Round 2014/2015 = 4th Round 2015/2016 = Quarter Final 2016/2017 = Final 2017/2018 = WINNERS 2018/2019 = 5th Round League Cup 2009/2010 = Quarter Final 2010/2011 = 3rd Round 2011/2012 = Quarter Final 2012/2013 = Semi Final 2013/2014 = Quarter Final 2014/2015 = WINNERS 2015/2016 = 4th Round 2016/2017 = 4th Round 2017/2018 = Semi Final 2018/2019 = Final Community Shield 2010 = Runners Up 2012 = Runners Up 2015 = Runners Up 2017 = Runners Up 2018 = Runners Up Champions League 2009/2010 = Last 16 2010/2011 = Quarter Final 2011/2012 = WINNERS 2012/2013 = Group Stage 2013/2014 = Semi Final 2014/2015 = Last 16 2015/2016 = Last 16 2017/2018 = Last 16 Europa League 2012/2013 = WINNERS 2018/2019 = WINNERS UEFA Super Cup 2012 = Runners Up 2013 = Runners Up 2019 = Runners Up Club World Cup 2012 = Runners Up Coaches Carlo Ancelotti (2010-2011) = 79 (47-13-19) Andre Villas Boas (2011-2012) = 40 (19-11-10) Roberto Di Matteo (2012) = 42 (24-9-9) Rafael Benitez (2012-2013) = 48 (28-10-10) Jose Mourinho (2013-2015) = 136 (80-29-27) Guus Hiddink (2015-2016) = 27 (10-11-6) Antonio Conte (2016-2018) = 106 (69-17-20) Maurizio Sarri (2018-2019) = 63 (39-13-11) Frank Lampard (2019) = 29 (15-5-9) Captains John Terry = 2010-2017 Gary Cahill = 2017-2019 Cesar Azpilicueta = 2019 Chelsea Player of the Year 2010 = Didier Drogba 2011 = Petr Cech 2012 = Juan Mata 2013 = Juan Mata 2014 = Eden Hazard 2015 = Eden Hazard 2016 = Willian 2017 = Eden Hazard 2018 = N'Golo Kante 2019 = Eden Hazard Leading Goalscorer (all competitions) 2010 = Frank Lampard (19) 2010/2011 = Nicolas Anelka (16) 2011/2012 = Frank Lampard (16) 2012/2013 = Fernando Torres (22) 2013/2014 = Eden Hazard (17) 2014/2015 = Diego Costa (21) 2015/2016 = Diego Costa (16) 2016/2017 = Diego Costa (22) 2017/2018 = Eden Hazard (17) 2018/2019 = Eden Hazard (21) 2019/2020 = Tammy Abraham (14) Owner(s) Roman Abramovich = 2010-2019 Players (Games) Cesar Azpilicueta = 362 Eden Hazard = 352 Branislav Ivanovic = 330 Willian = 317 Gary Cahill = 290 John Terry = 284 Ramires = 251 Petr Cech = 249 David Luiz = 248 John Obi Mikel = 223 Oscar = 203 Cesc Fabregas = 198 Frank Lampard = 196 Pedro = 193 Ashley Cole = 184 Fernando Torres = 172 N'Golo Kante = 159 Thibaut Courtois = 154 Nemanja Matic = 153 Didier Drogba = 141 Juan Mata = 135 Marcos Alonso = 134 Victor Moses = 128 Diego Costa = 120 Florent Malouda = 118 Kurt Zouma = 99 Antonio Rudiger = 95 Daniel Sturridge = 89 Salomon Kalou = 85 Nicolas Anelka = 84 Andreas Christiensen = 83 Kepa Arrizabalaga = 81 Jorginho = 80 Mateo Kovacic = 78 Michael Essien = 72 Alvaro Morata = 72 Ruben Loftus-Cheek = 72 Michy Batshuayi = 71 Olivier Giroud = 70 Jose Bosingwa = 69 Andre Schurrle = 65 Ross Barkley = 61 Paulo Ferreira = 57 Ryan Bertrand = 57 Davide Zappacosta = 52 Demba Ba = 51 Emerson = 49 Alex = 48 Raul Meireles = 48 Loic Remy = 47 Callum Hudson-Odoi = 46 Tiemoue Bakayoko = 43 Yuri Zhirkov = 42 Samuel Eto'o = 35 Oriol Romeu = 33 Asmir Begovic = 33 Tammy Abraham = 30 Mason Mount = 28 Kenedy = 27 Filipe Luis = 26 Yossi Benayoun = 24 Willy Caballero = 24 Baba Rahman = 23 Danny Drinkwater = 23 Michael Ballack = 22 Joe Cole = 22 Josh McEachran = 22 Christian Pulisic = 22 Fikayo Tomori = 20 Mohamed Salah = 19 Gonzalo Higuain = 18 Ross Turnbull = 17 Nathan Ake = 17 Marko Marin = 16 Bertrand Traore = 16 Romelu Lukaku = 15 Juan Cuadrado = 15 Nathaniel Chalobah = 15 Reece James = 15 Gael Kakuta = 13 Mark Schwarzer = 12 Radamel Falcao = 12 Ethan Ampadu = 12 Deco = 10 Ricardo Carvalho = 9 Henrique Hilario = 9 Kevin De Bruyne = 9 Jeffrey Bruma = 8 Patrick Van Aanholt = 8 Charly Musonda = 7 Juliano Belletti = 6 Ola Aina = 6 Marco Van Ginkel = 4 Tomas Kalas = 4 Billy Gilmour = 4 Sam Hutchinson = 3 Lucas Piazon = 3 Fabio Borini = 2 Alexandre Pato = 2 Matt Miazga = 2 Dujon Sterling = 2 Jake Clarke-Salter = 2 Marc Guehi = 2 Jacob Mellis = 1 Lewis Baker = 1 John Swift = 1 Dominic Solanke = 1 Papy Djilobodji = 1 Kyle Scott = 1 Jeremie Boga = 1 Tino Anjorin = 1 Ian Maasten = 1 Tariq Lamptey = 1 Players (Goals) Eden Hazard = 110 Frank Lampard = 73 Diego Costa = 59 Willian = 57 Didier Drogba = 51 Fernando Torres = 45 Pedro = 42 Oscar = 38 Ramires = 34 Juan Mata = 33 Branislav Ivanovic = 31 John Terry = 30 Florent Malouda = 28 Salomon Kalou = 25 Gary Cahill = 25 Nicolas Anelka = 24 Daniel Sturridge = 24 Alvaro Morata = 24 Michy Batshuayi = 24 Cesc Fabregas = 22 Marcos Alonso = 19 Olivier Giroud = 19 Victor Moses = 18 David Luiz = 18 Demba Ba = 14 Andre Schurrle = 14 Tammy Abraham = 14 Samuel Eto'o = 12 Loic Remy = 12 Ruben Loftus-Cheek = 12 N'Golo Kante = 11 Cesar Azpilicueta = 11 Nemanja Matic = 7 Jorginho = 7 Raul Meireles = 6 Christian Pulisic = 6 Ross Barkley = 6 Callum Hudson-Odoi = 6 Gonzalo Higuain = 5 Mason Mount = 5 Kurt Zouma = 5 Michael Essien = 4 Bertrand Traore = 4 John Obi Mikel = 4 Antonio Rudiger = 4 Ashley Cole = 3 Tiemoue Bakayoko = 3 Kenedy = 3 Alex = 3 Michael Ballack = 2 Ryan Bertrand = 2 Mohamed Salah = 2 Davide Zappacosta = 2 Mateo Kovacic = 2 Reece James = 2 Joe Cole = 1 Yossi Benayoun = 1 Yuri Zhirkov = 1 Patrick Van Aanholt = 1 Jose Bosingwa = 1 Oriol Romeu = 1 Marko Marin = 1 Filipe Luis = 1 Radamel Falcao = 1 Alexandre Pato = 1 Danny Drinkwater = 1 Charly Musonda = 1 Emerson = 1 Fikayo Tomori = 1 Signings Kepa Arrizabalaga (72m) = 8/08/2018 Alvaro Morata (58m) = 21/07/2017 Christian Pulisic (57.6m) = 2/01/2019 Jorginho (51.3m) = 14/07/2018 Fernando Torres (50m) = 31/01/2011 Mateo Kovacic (40.5m) = 1/07/2019 Tiemoue Bakayoko (40m) = 15/07/2017 Danny Drinkwater (35m) = 31/08/2017 Michy Batshuayi (33.2m) = 3/07/2016 Eden Hazard (32m) = 1/07/2012 Diego Costa (32m) = 15/07/2014 N'Golo Kante (32m) = 16/07/2016 Willian (30m) = 28/08/2013 David Luiz (30m) = 31/08/2016 Antonio Rudiger (29m) = 9/07/2017 Cesc Fabregas (27m) = 13/06/2014 Juan Mata (23.5m) = 22/08/2011 Juan Cuadrado (23.3m) = 2/02/2015 Marcos Alonso (23m) = 31/08/2016 Davide Zappacosta (23m) = 31/08/2017 Pedro (21.4m) = 20/08/2015 David Luiz (21.3m) = 31/01/2011 Nemanja Matic (21m) = 15/01/2014 Oscar (19.5m) = 25/07/2012 Andre Schurrle (18.7m) = 1/07/2013 Ramires (18m) = 13/08/2010 Olivier Giroud (18m) = 31/01/2018 Emerson (17m) = 30/01/2018 Filipe Luis (15.8m) = 16/07/2014 Ross Barkley (15m) = 5/01/2018 Baba Rahman (14m) = 17/08/2015 Kurt Zouma (12.5m) = 31/01/2014 Romelu Lukaku (12m) = 18/08/2011 Raul Meireles (12m) = 31/08/2011 Mohamed Salah (11m) = 26/01/2014 Loic Remy (10.5m) = 31/08/2014 Thibaut Courtois (9m) = 26/07/2011 Marco Van Ginkel (8m) = 5/07/2013 Asmir Begovic (8m) = 13/07/2015 Lucas Piazon (7.5m) = 20/01/2012 Gary Cahill (7m) = 16/01/2012 Cesar Azpilicueta (7m) = 24/08/2012 Victor Moses (7m) = 24/08/2012 Demba Ba (7m) = 4/01/2013 Kevin De Bruyne (6.7m) = 31/01/2012 Kenedy (6.3m) = 23/08/2015 Marko Marin (6m) = 1/07/2012 Yossi Benayoun (5.5m) = 2/07/2010 Tomas Kalas (5.2m) = 7/07/2010 Oriol Romeu (5m) = 4/08/2011 Matt Miazga (3.5m) = 30/01/2016 Papy Djilobodji (2.7m) = 1/09/2015 Samuel Eto'o (2m) = 29/08/2013 Charly Musonda (1.75m) = 1/07/2012 Andreas Christiensen (Undisclosed) = 1/07/2012 Bertrand Traore (Undisclosed) = 1/07/2014 Mark Schwarzer (Free) = 9/07/2013 Didier Drogba (Free) = 25/07/2014 Willy Caballero (Free) = 1/07/2017 Robert Green (Free) = 26/07/2018
  4. 23 points
    Liam

    Season's Player Ratings with NOBS on

    Season’s player ratings out of 10 using an innovative decimal system which gives me 20 available rating points. This week’s specious comparison is the Nationality of Best Suitability (NOBS) – an assessment of the nationality a player should be based on my expert assessment of his personality and my extensive knowledge of national stereotypes based on a lifetime of working with Johnny Foreigner. I’ve left out a few players so you can have a go because I’m a giver. Kepa – 7 - Bonus point for the excellence of his distribution and his undoubted bravery in taking the ball in tight situations. Never shy in making a routine save look spectacular and does not dominate his box in any way whatsoever. Will hopefully improve and could yet be a notch or two below world class. NOBS – Saudi – Exhibits a sense of entitlement often seen in the “there are no poor people in my country – insurance, what insurance” Saudi male. The women are great. “I’m not coming off the pitch, you can’t make me”. Dave – 6.5 – Lovely man, Captain in name only. Never any issue with effort and defensively sound but severely lacking in the “offensive phase” being about as useful as a wall angled at about 70 degrees. NOBS – Belgian. Bland, safe, unremarkable in every way, inoffensive, harmless, who you could accept as a son-in-law if it looked as if nothing better is on the horizon. Zappacosta – 5.5 – Made a few brief appearances and had no appreciable effect whatsoever. Limited. NOBS – Syrian. It’s the murine appearance, I’m afraid. Luiz – 6.5 – Obviously not a centre half. Not really any type of a defender or meaningful contributor to the *defensive phase”. Not a holding midfielder and not much use in any other position. Anything he has won has been in spite of him. Sprays the odd nice pass and smiles a lot. Would be a good man to have around in an orgy you’d think. NOBS – Brazilian. Everybody’s second favourite nationality. It’s the smooth facial skin like a carefully maintained mons pubis – and the teeth. Alonso – 5 – Found out this season, unfortunately. Tall. NOBS – Danish. No real defining characteristics. Tall. Kovacic – 5 – Library book of a footballer, careworn, slightly frayed, easily misplaced, forgettable. Wouldn’t get near a Mourinho midfield, lacking, as he does, any semblance of athleticism. Reminds me of an extremely poor man’s Ray Wilkins. NOBS – Any Eastern European statelet you can spell. Let him stay in your spare room while he sorts himself out and he’s still there 3 years later. Hazard – 8 – Happily I think the few wise old heads among us do know how lucky we have been to have had this diamond with us for so long. Outrageously talented, resilient, brave, imaginative and possessed of a measured intelligence, he has been a once in generation adornment to our beloved club. NOBS – Irish – Everybody’s favourite nationality. Perhaps it is the 800 years of being oppressed by less than benign imperial neighbours that has produced a nation of modest, fun, universally loved rogues. Kante – 8 – Completes our complement of two world class players. Showed his footballing intelligence by regularly excelling in a position which does not utilise his vast cannon of skills. He just gets on with it in a way that is rare in today’s pampered multi-millionaire. We are lucky to have him. Short. NOBS – Japanese – When they are not concealing cameras in toilet bowls they are actually modest, industrious, all-round good eggs. Short. Hudson Odoi – 7 – We must keep this young man or it could rival the De Bruyne/Salah worst decision in the history of sport category of which we are the reigning world champions. Just roll him the ball and let him play. NOBS – Citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Are you staying or leaving? We want to leave but you won’t let us. Just go for feck’s sake – sorry if we don’t look like we’ll fall apart without you. Can we just pretend to leave but really stay? Willian – 5.5 – Sorry but you are playing in the best league in the world, for one of the best clubs, treated like royalty, with a decent amount of talent, basically living the dream, yet you slope about the place looking f**king miserable you pouting stream of piss. No one likes you. NOBS – Israeli – No one likes them. Sarri – 7 – Strange man. Off the scale stubborn and clearly incapable of even listening to advice. Yet is capable of getting his message across to the players. I like him as he is clearly in touch with his death wish and has worse teeth than me, which very few do. NOBS – Russian living in Germany. Dour, joyless and somehow incapable of appreciating the break that life has given.
  5. 23 points
    Mick Harford

    Super Frank's Derby County

    Rams fan here. Must admit I never thought I'd be joining a Chelsea forum unless it was to talk about that 6-4 game back in about 88. I've semi-adopted Chelsea as my team to follow in the Prem due to Frank coming to us. A plus is that Mick Harford played for us both, and he's my favourite ever outfield player for the Rams. Just to give an idea, last season under Rowett was very divisive for us Rams. Yes we won a few, but by God we were dire and uninspiring. Then we went on long runs without points or a win. Some fans were firmly pro-Rowett (ex-player and all that) and some were anti, with others (myself) just hoping for some continuity given the succession of managers that we have had in recent seasons. But I cannot stress how poor the football was, following Derby was a chore at times it was that uninspiring and devoid of excitement. I'm sure those of you that follow football know that we annually fall off a cliff after New Year, and we duly obliged by limping into the Play Offs last season. There is also a larger story behgind transfers at teh club and the over reliance on certain agent(s) which has led to an unbalanced and bloated squad. Then Rowett went, and the usual names were mentioned as a replacement, and we heard the name Lampard mentioned. A load of us thought "why not?" as we've literally tried experienced with promotions under belt, ex-player, previous manager, highly rated assistant and none have worked. Frank has been a breath of fresh air, he speaks well and with a purpose. None of the cliched platitudes that get trotted out usually, what he says makes sense. He has brought in youth (39 was consider youth for Rowett) and has manoeuvred a few out. We are blessed to have borrowed Mount off you guys for a season, the guy looks quality and to my mind even passes that go astray are due to players not being on his wavelength rather than inaccuracy. Tomori, to my mind, is a rock. That is not to say both are without faults, but they are young and are why they are on loan at Derby and not still at Chelsea, they will learn and grow. The buzz is fantastic around Frank as well, bit of worldwide coverage that we've not had since THAT season in 2007. As it stands for a novice Frank has done really well, Leeds outclassed us and we were beaten by the better team, Millwall could have been a draw or snuck a win but we got lucky at Reading so swings and roundabouts and all that. Also we are lucky that Jody M came with Frank, he seems top class and I reckon eventually both of them will return to Stamford Bridge, but it was great to watch that documentary on him on YouTube again. I'll post in here periodically to keep you abreast of how things are going, but until then best of luck for the season ahead.
  6. 22 points
    ForeverCarefree

    Gonzalo Higuain

    Only been in England for a day and already reached more cup finals than Harry Kane.
  7. 22 points
    TomCFC85

    Random Rumours

    In the Shed End Forums, his account was raised. The rumour mill was where he spent most of his days Chilling out, bullsh*tting out, lying it's a wrap And making up accusations, full of crap When a couple of users, saw right through his disguise Started calling out his obvious lies Got in one little fight, And his mum, you bet Said "Timmy, you should stay off the internet"
  8. 22 points
    David Nicolson

    70s photos of Shed Boys

    It's David again. Please contact me. Here's a photo of Eccles:
  9. 21 points
  10. 21 points
    That would require a very huge FA Cup rule change
  11. 21 points
    dkw

    Christian Pulisic - Official

    This is a 20 year old who has played 114 times for Dortmund, yet people have decided he is a Commercial purchase, nothing special, overrated before he's even played a single minute for us. Unbelievable.
  12. 21 points
    Davey Baby

    Antonio Rudiger

    For me the most interesting aspect of this transfer is what it tells us about the team Conte is trying to build. Last season he brought in Batshuayi, Alonso, Luiz and Kante. This season it seems he's going to build the team more in his own image, with quick, athletic, raw, pacy and strong players, all of a certain age, that magic spot in your mid 20s when you're yet to hit your peak, when you still have a lot to prove and you're motivated, when you should in theory be giving your team the best years of your life. Rudiger, like Lukaku, has just turned 24. Bakayoko will be 23 next month, Sandro is 26. They're all tall and they're all imposing athletic creatures. Nobody's going to bully us, nobody's going to dominate us in the air and nobody's going to outpace us. I know there is some debate over Lukaku but these are all technical players too, these are all top-level performers, who perform on the international stage and, with the exception of Lukaku, the CL stage. I think many are underestimating Rudiger on this thread. This guy was a full German international at the age of 20 and he remains a regular in the German squad. Considering he's just turned 24, considering he had a bad injury last summer, considering Germany are the world champions, 16 caps isn't bad. Those saying he isn't an upgrade on Ake need to consider this guy has nearly 200 club appearances to his name, whereas Ake has just over 50. That's not to say Ake won't turn into a top player, he's clearly a good player and he's doing very well for his age, even though it's worth considering he's only 2 years younger than Rudiger. One thing's for sure, Ake will never have Rudiger's pace nor his height, although he does match him for versatility. That's the other interesting thing about this transfer, the fact Rudiger gives us options in a number of positions, as he can play anywhere along the defence. I'm sure Conte already knows where he ideally wants him to play however, be that at FB, WB or CB. It's possible Conte sticks with the 3 man defence, plays Rudiger on the right of the 3, and plays Azpilicueta as the RWB instead of Moses. Either way, it seems Conte has identified an area of the team that needs strengthening, and he's identified Rudiger as the man to strengthen it. Rudiger may not be a beast, in the mould of a Koulibaly or whoever, he may not be the world's best defender, but he's still a top player playing at the top level, with bags of experience for one so young. We'll be challenging for the CL as well as the PL this season and with that in mind, Rudiger's presence gives us a far better chance than Ake's presence would have done, and that's why Conte's made a pragmatic choice. Truth is, it's hard for a young player to break through at Chelsea, as we all know. Kids have to play or their development is stifled. Conte has to decide if he can give that kid enough minutes. He decided the answer was no in Ake's case, and sad as it may be, that made it the right decision to sell him. He's had his loans, he's 22, this was the time for the manager to make his decision and he made it. He's seen the player and he's made his judgement. Chelsea play at a very high level and the manager's no mug. As a youngster you're going to have to be very special indeed to break through. Rudiger simply plays at a higher level. That may not be the case in a season or two but that's the case now, and Ake will be forever stifled if he stays at Chelsea, so it was the best thing for all parties. Don't forget Christensen's back too, and if he's as good as they say he is, he's going to need minutes as well, otherwise we'll lose him. Then there's Zouma, who may or may not go out on loan. His chances have definitely diminished with Rudiger's arrival and maybe it's time for him to consider his future too. Either way we have to make room to accomodate these players and that means we have to make sacrifices too. The manager gets paid the big bucks to make these calls. The top managers get these calls right more often than not. That's what makes them top managers. Sure, Rudiger may not have been Conte's first choice but maybe his first choice wasn't available, or maybe the club weren't prepared to be held to ransom, which is fair enough. You never know, maybe another CB is going to come in. Maybe Conte has plans to play Rudiger at WB. Either way I think he represents good value, I think he'll make us stronger, I think he'll develop under Conte, and I think he's likely to prove a good signing. Edit: I'm happy with this piece of business and I think you should all be too.
  13. 21 points
    David Nicolson

    70s photos of Shed Boys

    Hi Scott and many thx for your response. I really am so eager to get into contact with any of the Shed guys I knew in the 70s. I'd be v grateful for any help you might give me in contacting them. Can you spread the word? Meanwhile, here is another photo of the hundreds that I have:
  14. 20 points
    abramovich

    Big Pete Retires

    Don't care that he's been with Arsenal last few years, he's always been and will remain CFC legend. The man won everything at the club, put his body on the line, and was pure class on and off the pitch.
  15. 20 points
    Davey Baby

    *Official* Pedro to Chelsea

    At the risk of upsetting yorkley and having my entire post dismissed as just "stuff" and having him bare his arse* at me, I'll wage into the debate about KDB. When a young player breaks into the first team, if they're to have any chance at all, you have to be a bit patient. I remember Lampard at the age of 23 coming to Chelsea. He wasn't that good. I remember people saying he was sh*t. I also remember people calling for patience. You can't rush to a judgement with new players, particularly young ones, and Lampard wasn't even that young. What Lampard did have was a nurturing manager, and that's where he got lucky. By the time Jose came along he was already a fabulous player, as was JT. Jose may have taken their game up a notch but had he arrived at Chelsea three or four years earlier there's no way JT or Lampard would have even been at the club, and if they were, their development would have been stifled, and they'd never have become the same players. KDB was bought by Chelsea with an immense reputation. He was already a Belgian international. He had inspired Genk to the title, as well as other domestic cups. He was getting goals and assists galore, and he was a teenager. This was a prodigious talent, and in those days, we had enough clout to get him. He spent the next year and a half on loan, with a year in Germany, where he scored 10 goals in 30 games. Not bad for a 21 year old kid, playing his first season in a major league. Not a bad goal tally, considering he wasn't a striker, he either played central midfield or on the flank. I remember saying at the time, on this forum, that he reminded me of David Beckham, and I predicted he would be even better. I'm not blowing my own trumpet. It was obvious he had quality. We knew he had quality. That's why we went out and spent good money on a teenager. So, a year and a half after signing, he finally gets his chance, and what a debut, man of the match in a resounding win, Sky giving him the award. I remember that game vividly. I had waited a long time to see him in a blue shirt and I was very excited to see him develop. It was clear he had massive potential. I also remember that game for another reason. We were 2-0 up at HT, playing some lovely free-flowing stuff and the second half promised to be fun, except, sadly, Jose had different ideas. "Fun" wasn't what Jose did. The football was clearly too free-flowing. The players were playing with a carefree abandon. At half-time he rectified it, and the second half turned into a non-event, but I'm sure Jose was happy with it, because the players were no longer ignoring his instructions. There was the warning sign right there. Jose put the handbrake on at half-time and ordered the players to conform to his structure, and, having played Hull off the park in the first half, he succeeded in sucking all the life out of the game. I remember being very disappointed. Tellingly, KDB didn't feature in the next match. He had impressed everybody watching but not the manager, and therein lies the story. KDB got a few games after that, I'm not sure how many but not many, and then he was out, because he wasn't doing what Jose wanted him to do tactically, or maybe because he simply wasn't interested. I have a hunch (which is backed up by a reliable source) that KDB felt that Jose was too intent on making him a better defensive player, rather than a better offensive one. KDB wanted a little creative licence, a little freedom on the park, and in that sense it soon became apparent he had the wrong manager. KDB wasn't obeying his instructions to the letter and Jose lost patience, rather quickly, and took him out the side. KDB was given scant opportunities after that, the odd game here or there, but Jose felt this wasn't a player who hung on his every word and worshipped the ground he walked on, so he was sold. It was a pitiful lack of judgement, but KDB had got his judgement bang on. Jose was happy. He could turn Oscar into Lee Cattermole instead. There are those that say he deserved to be sold, because he did nothing in a blue shirt. Laughable. He. Wasn't. Given. A. Chance. Same with Salah under Mourinho. Not. Given. A. Chance. A handful of games does not constitute a chance, especially when you're young and foreign, and especially when you're new to a big league and a big club, with all the pressure that brings. Some managers want to build, some want to nurture, some are only thinking of the short-term and go into a sulk when they can't have ready-made stars to fill every position. Jose was one of the latter. He wasn't interested if a player was going to be good tomorrow, and KDB had shown enough promise hitherto in his career to suggest he was going to be very good tomorrow, otherwise I don't think Wolfsburg were going to smash their transfer record for him. They knew something we didn't. They knew he was f**king good. KDB and Salah played a handful of times for Chelsea, and yet we have fans saying they deserved to be sold. How could they possibly know? They hadn't seen them for any meaningful period. They'd watched them for about ten minutes. The problem wasn't the players. It transpires it was the manager, giving them too many messages, messing with their heads, telling them to track back instead of forward. Either way, people shouldn't be too quick to judge. Give a player a little time, before you make your assessment. You never know they just might surprise you. Look at Lampard. So KDB went to Germany, and immediately won POTY in the Bundesliga, just like he'd won the award for best young player when we'd loaned him to Germany previously. Fancy that. He was good before he joined us, and good immediately after. Maybe he was good when he was with us. He just wasn't given a chance. He could have stayed at Chelsea of course and picked up his wages but he took a step down because he wanted to play and he knew he was good enough. Sadly his manager at Chelsea wasn't so astute. It was the best career move the player ever made. Of course many Chelsea fans felt we got good money when we sold him, and they were happy to see him go. I wasn't one of them, but there you go, we all get some things right and some things wrong. Since he's left however, it's been amusing watching people trying to convince themselves he isn't that good. He was great in Germany but it was only Germany. He looked good for City but what had he won for them? He never turned up in big games apparently. Strange, because all I ever saw was a great player, a top player, who was only ever getting better. * It's a great arse. Let's make no bones about it.
  16. 20 points
    Zeta

    Tiémoué Bakayoko

    Monaco: "We want £40m" Marina: "£35m" Monaco: "Not good enough. 38m at the least Marina: "£35m" Monaco: *Sigh*.. "Ok, really the lowest we'll go is 36m. Pay it and he's yours." Marina: "£35m" Monaco: "f**k it! Fine! £35m!" Marina: "£30m"
  17. 20 points
    Applauding Boro fans after shaking all the opposition hands. Just a class act of a man. Thankful to have him
  18. 19 points
    If the league gets cancelled now and Liverpool aren't crowned as trfue champions I'm not sure I will ever stop laughing.... Ever.
  19. 19 points
    David Nicolson

    70s photos of Shed Boys

    Hi. My name is David and in the early 70s I spent at least a year with Bubbles, Jean, Eccles and all the Shed Boys taking hundreds of photos of you all for the Sunday Times Magazine, one of which you reproduce on your web site. I was a long-haired Yetti, but you kindly took me under your protective wings, guarding me against 'enemies,' such as the Arsenal, while I was snapping some wonderful photos. I still have all the original negatives, and they provide excellent historical images of you in all your glories! I would love to make contact with you all, particularly Bubbles, Jean and Eccles, so that I can share my memories and photos with you. We could create an album of photos to celebrate those great times, and post them on your web site as a permanent record of your glory days! I attach a photo of Bubbles and Jean and will be very grateful for any replies. All the very best, David
  20. 19 points
    dkw

    Sarri - In or Out?

    So, Sarri leads us to 3rd, loses one final, then wins a European trophy, unbeaten in the competition and has the biggest Cup final win in our history. We'll done to the gaffer.
  21. 19 points
    The Brit

    Jose Mourinho thread

    I'm sure no-one, myself included, who is criticising the fans for abusing mourinho last night, is saying we should love jose when we face utd...but don't hurl abuse at him ffs...some people have very short memories and are ungrateful...he may say the odd bs thing, but we should know better than anyone it's bs...as mentioned above, get behind antonio, get behind our team...Mourinho deserves our everlasting respect, even when he does act like a nob
  22. 18 points
  23. 18 points
    I love that this club never accepts defeat when things are going wrong. Everything about this final was going badly for the club, our transfer ban, Hazard and Sarri's future being up in the air, an ill timed friendly in America which ended up with one of our key players picking up a serious injury, Rudiger still on crutches and Kante almost having a malfunction just before the final, and we still won the cup. The attitude to never give up has played a massive role in our success in the last decade. It's almost become our thing now.
  24. 18 points
    Official statement from Antonio. At least he had the class and grace to thank everyone.
  25. 18 points
    What a difference a year makes. This time last season I was so taken with our new manager, who despite not getting the players he'd asked for managed to put together a brilliant title winning side, which was just what the doctor ordered after the 2015-16 10th place fiasco. Now it's the opposite feeling. i still blame the board and owner for not backing him in the transfer market but that's no excuse for giving up and bitching and moaning at every opportunity about your hard lot in life. Disgraceful is what I call it. Magnificent in his first season and absolute shambles in the second. It's not even that we've been losing, it's the defeatist attitude coming from someone whose job is to motivate the players. I've already said it on this very thread, he should have walked in the summer, I'm sure he would have had no problem getting a job in a top club after the title winning season. If he's such a man of principle that he reminds everyone who'd listen at every presser how he was let down by the club, why not just leave and go where you'll be appreciated? No, he chose money and a bigger contract for the same duration. So why then are you constantly bitching how tough your job is? Non one forced you to stay. Shut the f**k up and get on with it. We have a separate thread to discuss how sh*t our board is, so I won't mention them here. But there's simply no excuse to fail like the team did this season. Cry all you want about broken promises, about the players you didn't get, and crappy players you got instead, the fact is, you've had more than enough to finish in a top four spot and you f**ked up. This is on you.
  26. 17 points
    Scott Harris

    Sarri - In or Out?

    I hate this type of attitude. One day the trophies will dry up, and you will be begging for another League Cup, FA Cup or Europa League victory. I don't like to use the words spoilt or say people aren't proper fans of the club, but in this case, I think it's fair to say you fit both of those. To say you're not interested in winning any trophy outside of the Champions League and Premier League is so ungrateful. You're basically saying that half of what we have won in the Roman era and almost everything we won before it in our history means nothing.
  27. 17 points
    There is something magical about this photo.. Look at the pride in his eyes. It's one for the ages, no doubt.
  28. 17 points
    You're not going to watch your team in a European Final because we might lose? Shocking mentality.
  29. 17 points
    mclovin83

    Jose Mourinho thread

    Can't say I am sad about this. In fact, I am happy he has left having never won a top level trophy with United. They are the first and only club that he has been at where he has not won the domestic title. In relative terns for Jose, it's been a failure at United. You do wonder if, when he looks back in a few years and see's the United job as the sh*t stain on his career which it is, whether he will regret sacrificing his relationship with Chelsea fan's to try and be 'one of them' I am sure over time the animosity between Chelsea & Jose will diminish, but there is a part of me that feels he had his chance to cement his legacy in Chelsea folk law and he somewhat chose to sacrifice that with his actions as United Manager, which were not needed. He could have been the bigger man, but that's just not Jose. Sad in a way that this is probably how his time in the Premier League will end. In his prime (2004-2006) he really was something special. The best Chelsea team I have witnessed was under his control, and I will never forget that. What he has become is a shadow of that man however, and a rather pathetic excuse of a top flight Manager. He has become reminiscent of a past his best heavy weight boxer who should have retired years ago.
  30. 17 points
    Forget formation, forget style, forget Sarri ball, that was won by commitment. End of.
  31. 17 points
    Raven8er

    Jorginho is a Blue

    Met the man himself today during the meet & greet here in Perth! Didn't speak a word of English but was always smiling and (from help by his translator) expressed how happy and honored he is to have signed for a club like Chelsea and thanked the fans for his welcome to the club! He even argued with the staff at the store so he could stick around to sign autographs and take photos with some of the supporters that were told they were too late (despite being at the event on time), quality bloke!!
  32. 17 points
    What's wrong with having a neutral net spend? Why do you and others have some misguided conception that owning a football club means you are obliged to constantly spend money? I think it's amazing that Roman pumped his own money in to build the club to the global force and brand that it is today and has turned us into a club that can sustain itself and remain competitive for trophies on a consistent basis. Go and ask a Blackburn fan about how a football club looks that competes artificially on the back money being pumped in by a benefactor. It's not a pretty picture if that benefactor suddenly pulls the plug/dies/runs out of money. Roman has built the club to the extent that it is no longer dependant on his money. This is a great thing to be celebrated, not complained about.
  33. 16 points
    Dean

    Mateo Kovačić

    Someone is still digging, I see. Gol15, do you have any idea what it takes for footballers from small countries like Croatia or Uruguay to make it the top of European football? So many more hurdles to overcome, decisions to make (which country, which offer, which path...?) vs players in more developed countries with strong leagues, a strong academy on their doorstep... It’s a fight. It requires strength of character and is character-building, which may explain in part why the teams of these smaller countries punch above their weight so much at world cups etc. To take that all for granted and describe Kovacic as a ‘reject’ or ‘average’ for not breaking into the Real midfield aged 22-23 is one of the more ridiculous comments I’ve read from you Gol15 in a v competitive field. Who was he supposed to replace exactly : Modric - one of the best midfielders of all time!? Kovacic was always a great prospect, or else he never would have made it to Inter and a starter there at 19, as Slojo says. And Real wouldn’t have bought him in the first place. That proved to be a poor career choice by Kovacic, and one incidentally made by several players from former Yugoslavia over the years - aiming too high too early on in their career. Jovic has likely just made the same mistake. I listened recently to an interview with the legendary Serbian (Yugoslav back in his playing days) midfielder Vladimir Jugovic (some similarities to Kova by the way) reflecting on his career. He left Red Star Belgrade (a phenomenal side that won the European cup (CL equivalent) in 91) and opted for Sampdoria in 92-93 rather than one of the giants. He said his time at Samp was the most enjoyable of his career and the most important for his development. why: because of the playing time. Said it would have been a mistake to move to a Juve (where he went on to become one of the greats of the 90s) or Milan too early, as he would have sat on the bench (3 foreigner limit back then made it even harder) and would never have got as good. My hope/vision for Kova is that his move to Chelsea proves to be transformative, the one that corrected that earlier mistake, rescued his career and propelled him to the greatness he may be destined for... and that Real Madrid will regret it forever. Yeah and ask Real Madrid fans if they’re glad they ‘rejected’ Kovacic. Ask Modric if he thinks he’s ‘average’. Ask Marcelo, Klopp, Guardiola.... Yo don’t have to share my hopes/vision, which may be far-fetched. You don’t have to rate him. That’s your prerogative. But as a fan of the club, why not show him a bit of respect and gratitude, if nothing else? After all, he’s giving Chelsea everything he’s got. Finally, to the powers that be: if I ever write a longer post than this, please kick me out.
  34. 16 points
    Updated version of a photograph.
  35. 16 points
  36. 16 points
    Give the man a break. We call for RLC and CHO, they did not start but were his first two subs, neither pulled up trees and with 20 minutes to go he changed his system and pulled Jorginho for Willian. He showed flexability at last and Hazard gave us a moment of magic to get a point. Wolves came to spoil the game, nothing wrong with that but we are not best withut Costa or Drogba to break down those teams. We fought first minute to last. The ball did not break for us. By United standards we should have had a pen for the handball the player kicked on to his own outstretched hand and the hazard one could easily have been given as a pen rather than free kick. Higuain was centermeters from a tap in, and on another day dave blocks their goal not deflects it in. We were unlucky. We dominated them and deserved to win and Sarri showed ambition with his changes. I thought he and the team handled the game very well and tried to the last against a fine team with a solid game plan.
  37. 16 points
    I think people in the match thread after tonight's win slagging off Sarri and the way we play aren't very clued up on football. All I see is everyone moaning saying we aren't making any progress and are boring to watch.. here's how I see it the first few months went smoothly and we transitioned to phase 1, it's stagnated now but it's still getting better and here's why: 1) Jorginho - he is the scapegoat unfortunately because he's sarris favourite, but I've noticed over the last 2 months he has improved so much defensively tonight he constantly hassled spurs and won it back, yes he can't shoot but he is finally shielding the defence and I believe it's not so much when Sarri gets a couple of players he wants Jorginho will go up another level, but when he keeps getting more physical and used to the league like he is really showing now. 2) Kante - coincidentally at the same time Jorginho is better shielding the defense Kante has been brilliant going forward recently and looks so much better passing, making runs and even shooting ! So that criticism of Sarri ruining Kante for Jorginho can now Be put to bed, hence the system is working and he's improving the players. 3)Azpilicueta - anther criticised at the start of the season has totally turned his form around and it's another reason why we look so much better at the back and he's now outperforming alonso each week going forward! Look how much solid we are recently has nobody noticed this? Because I never see it spoken about. Everyone moaned that Sarri had us open at the back AVB style, well we are the second best defence in the league and look great now in defence and playing out from the back too. now Sarri has said he just needs to solve the problem of a blunt attack now that we are more solid at the back and people doubt he will because if you think about it he's stuck to his system and improved us in every way - we play out from the back nearly as good as city spurs and Liverpool - we dominate the ball against all teams even spurs away - Kante is evolving into an even better player somehow - Jorginho is toughening up and getting effective defensively, this is night and day for me I constantly notice him tracking back chasing wingers and covering and breaking up play now. - Hudson -odoi will feature a lot now and Sarri will see he is the difference to sharpening up the attack imo we are just a striker and LB away from really flowing and looking brilliant. Hazard and CHO on the wings with a top number 9 and we are set. Don't see why everybody has to be so negative, we played really f**king well tonight! Maurizio is some coach and we're going to be some team when it clicks
  38. 16 points
  39. 16 points
    And they dare to call us rent boys
  40. 16 points
    Beerqueen

    Thibaut Courtois

    Courtois' heat map so far
  41. 16 points
    Zeta

    Thibaut Courtois

    Hopefully his ex moves to London now.
  42. 16 points
    bluedave

    Willian

    Managers make last minute subs all the time to waste a bit of time. Weird that it would suddenly be interpreted as a “f**k you” to anybody.
  43. 16 points
    R.I.P. A great club stalwart over the years.
  44. 16 points
    The Liquidator

    Eden Hazard

    Some of our fans don't deserve Hazard. Some of the things I read about this player sometimes is appalling. 2 time PL champion, arguably the best player in 2 title winning campaigns under two different managers, 3 time CFC player of the year (all time record), one of the only 3 Chelsea players to win the PFA player of the year, most team of the year appearances by any Chelsea player ever. Yet some of you talk about him like he's nothing in a moment of adversity or/and dip in form and just right off what he's achieved. He's been very loyal to us. He didn't hand in a transfer request like Suarez did. He didn't hand in a transfer request like Coutinho did. If he wanted he could have left last season or the season before. Let's show some loyalty in return to a Chelsea legend. It's only fair.
  45. 16 points
    We went for it much more over these 2 legs than we did when we got past Barca on the way winning the Champions League in 2012. A combination of mistakes and bad luck led to a different result this time. Conte has rightly been blamed for some poor results recently but I don't think you can blame him tonight.
  46. 16 points
    It's also really easy to fake:
  47. 16 points
    Big disappointment ? He was bought in as a decent CB and has gone on to achieve far more than anybody expected of him. He's been far from a big disappointment, if anything, he has exceeded expectations. 6 trophies with the club in 6 full seasons as a regular starter. 3 of those season's he has been included in the team of the season. How anybody can say he has been a big disappointment is laughable. He wasn't signed to be the next John Terry and nobody expected him to be.
  48. 16 points
    Davey Baby

    Diego "the guv'nor" Costa

    We've lost a 20 goal per season forward but let's remember he played almost every minute of both our title-winning campaigns, so you'd expect him to score a few goals. Some will say the fact he played almost every minute proves how invaluable he was, and that's true to an extent, but there were other players who were more valuable. Diego Costa is replaceable, there are more prolific and better strikers out there and let's just hope we've signed one in Morata. I'm not saying Diego isn't top drawer I'm just saying there are better out there which is an undeniable fact. Let's not forget also he went through spells in every season with us when he went seriously off the boil, yet because he's such a high-maintenance player, he couldn't be dropped because his ego couldn't take it and it may have resulted in him losing interest, or worse than that, being a disruptive influence, something a manager wouldn't want to risk. Look at Jose, he finally dropped him against Spurs at WHL and it was long overdue. Costa had a face like a slapped arse on the bench. Anyone remember his warm-up on the touchline during the second-half? He couldn't have looked less interested if he tried. Then of course there was the bib-throwing incident. It's telling that the only time Conte dropped him was at Leicester and he could cite a back injury as his reason, and against Spurs at Wembley when he conveniently also dropped Hazard, which I guess massaged Costa's ego as it made him believe he was as important to the team as Hazard and therefore was being rested for the league game. That was expert management by Conte. Costa needed to be dropped as he was playing so poorly but he had to find a way to do it that would keep the player onside and instil some belief. The only time Conte subbed Costa when we needed a goal was the Cup Final, which tells us everything we need to know. He didn't care about Costa's fragile ego at that point as he knew it was his last game and if he lost the player it mattered not a jot. I imagine Costa is a very high-maintenance player to manage, particularly if he's not settled or truly happy, which he never really was at Chelsea. He's attention-seeking and self-centred in my opinion, and contrary to many people's view of him he actually tends to go missing in big games, because he's not quite as big and tough as he thinks he is. I said way before the season ended that Conte would get rid with relish as soon as he could. Conte being the arch pragmatist kept him onside by the skin of his teeth in order to win the title but as soon as he got his chance he cut ties. We needed Costa to win those titles, yes we did, mainly because we didn't have adequate replacements, but now we do, and I really won't miss him one bit. I won't miss all the nonsense, on the pitch and off it, and I won't miss all his pining for Atletico. I won't miss him punching teammates in training nor arguing with teammates on the pitch in crucial games. I imagine his act can grate a bit after a while behind the scenes. It might be fun at first but after a while I bet the management feel like they're having to mollycoddle a toddler, because that's what he appears to be, a child inside a man's body, a man who's yet to grow up. Conte texted him, I've no doubt of that, but what's telling is that Costa squealed to the press immediately, whereas when Costa threw his dummy out the pram in January the manager kept it all in-house and only spoke highly of the player. In January it would have been apparent to Conte Costa wanted out. Everybody knew Costa wanted out, he even waved goodbye to the SB crowd in his last home game. He was the one that was angling for a move, and yet, as soon as Conte texted him he went squealing, trying to portray himself as the victim. This is the guy that was seduced by China midway through our title challenge and this is the guy who's been pining for Atletico since he arrived. He likes to play big and tough but really when it boils down to it he's just a big girl's blouse, running to the press as fast as he can possibly can. Diego, it's been entertaining, I'll give you that. There's been goals and there's been good performances aplenty. Don't let the door slap your arse on the way out.
  49. 16 points
    RIP Mourinho

    Diego "the guv'nor" Costa

    Signed. Helped us win 2 league titles (hopefully). Pissed off every other team. Left and doubled our money on him. Not a bad transfer in the grand scheme of things.
  50. 16 points
    EdinburghBlue

    Jose Mourinho thread

    Jose summed it up himself for me tonight. He said 'I'll defend and back my club and players' or something to that effect. That's fine but so will our support. We're Chelsea FC not Mourinho FC. If he's going to go in to press conferences/on the touchline and take pot shots at our club and our manager then our supporters will defend our players, our club, our manager. Jose has soured this relationship, not the Chelsea support. We supported him when we were dire last year, welcomed him back warmly at the start of the season. It's only since he started acting bitter towards us it's all gone wrong. i love and respect him for what he done for us, but the love affair is over now, his behaviour towards a club he was supposed to love has been appalling.

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