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  1. 4 points
    dkw

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    No your not, for years our fans have been desperate for us to bring in a manager to change our style of play. Now we have one it's embarrassing how little patience some of them have, even after we lost our first game of the season in the last week of November. By all means question things when we play poorly, but calling for him to change the style or dump players is ridiculous.
  2. 4 points
    dkw

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    And yet you feel you can question Sarri who is a manager of a professional football team, you tedious hypocrite.
  3. 4 points
    mclovin83

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    It's a bit feeble and pathetic to try and win an argument on here by name dropping a couple of Z-list pundits who may/may not share a similar view to you. Almost as if you are just repeating something you have overheard, but are running out of steam when you have to argue the point on your own. All I get from your posts is rather obvious points (Kante is world class and players his usual position is a defensive midfield role, for example) that everyone else already knows (Sarri included), but everyone else is looking at the bigger picture and applying context/patience/common sense. You can repeat yourself as many times as you like (which you have been doing), but whilst others continue to apply context/patience/common sense your opinion is going to continue to get overlooked and dismissed. I think you need to try and open up your imagination a bit, and perhaps learn a bit more about what Sarri is trying to do. Also, refresh your memory on how Pep did in his first season with City whilst implementing a new philosophy (with the best squad in the league and a blank chequebook) Finally, remember how we did last season, and how bad some of the results were; losing 4-1 to Watford for example (with Kante in his traditional defensive midfield role no less).
  4. 4 points
    I beg to differ. I don't begrudge City their fortune, they won the lottery, just like us. But the difference is, we were always open about our financial losses and we earned our sponsorships through our success on the pitch, not because our owner decided to finace the squad through one of his firms and call it a commercial deal. We were spending way more than we could possibly earn back when Roman had just bought the club but it was legit and when the FFP was announced we made sure to put our affairs in order to comply with it. City didn't. If they felt hard done by, they could have taken UEFA to court and I would've even respected them for standing on principle. But instead they decided to cheat their way to success and pretend it's all above board.
  5. 4 points
    You gotta love this man, he is so genuine. I'm so tired of our last few managers psychological portraits - denying things, avoiding hot topics, blaming concrete players, being harsh with the media. this man is finally going to be make us a classy top club with attractive football to watch and normal environment to work in.
  6. 4 points
    Ewell CFC

    Vintage Blues pictures and film

    He had a very lived in face did Eddie Mac. Looked like a middle aged bloke, even as a young player judging by photos. Bit like John Thaw, who was only 32 when he started playig Regan in the Sweeney.
  7. 3 points
    Valerie

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    Great. Now I'm wondering how much or how little football knowledge a mushroom has. BTW Am I the only one who hopes very much that Sarri gets the time and the players to get his football philosophy rolling? I'm already having more fun this season than last season, despite last weekend's defeat.
  8. 3 points
    mclovin83

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    The irony of you being outraged by this is bloody hilarious !!!!
  9. 3 points
    yorkleyblue

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    Does tickle I, this bloke. Been a fan since 1905, been to every match, home and away, yet has the football knowledge of a mushroom, seems to get his opinions from MoTD and Sky Sports pundits, and has waaay too strong a liking for everything City for me. Pops up as a member in May, and spend the next few months pontificating about how he knows exactly what's wrong with the team and the manager going 18 matches or whatever it is unbeaten. If I wasn't such a nice person, I'd say he was a prick, but I am too nice for that, so I'll just say he's a tad misguided. But, if Bluemoon should call to say they are missing their idiot, we'll know what to tell them.
  10. 3 points
    Osgood is Good

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    Newcastle played worse than a pub team when Shearer was manager. So it's hardly surprising @mclovin83 refers to him as a Z lister.
  11. 3 points
    Stim

    Lacazette

    > would be excellent > so far his PL record is similar to Morata and we all know how people feel about him.
  12. 3 points
    Nibs

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    That's a fair point but on the other hand it wasn't just any old defeat. We were given a lesson in football by one of our bitterest rivals and but for iffy finishing and some decent saves by Kepa, we would have conceded double what we did. It is still early days and after such a poor performance you would expect Sarri (and Zola and co) to be working on it so we don't get a repeat. No-one is calling for Sarri's head but I think supporters are right to question things. Kante has arguably been one of the PL top performers for the last 4 seasons playing where and how he did and Jorginho is still new to the PL with a lot to learn. The Spurs game wasn't a one-off, he was poor against Everton too so what happens if this continues game after game? All well and good saying he is integral to Sarri's system but if the opposition continue to nullify him, Sarri will HAVE to think again.
  13. 3 points
    erskblue

    Vintage Blues pictures and film

    Just to put this on the same page as you picture above. To give 'younger viewers' a feel for The Bridge in days of old.
  14. 3 points
  15. 3 points
    Boyne

    Vintage Blues pictures and film

    Couldn't think of anywhere else to post this. Our three leading scorers.
  16. 3 points
    just

    Tammy Abraham

    Wow! 5-5! Villa must have Abraham up front and Luiz at the back!
  17. 3 points
    Oli

    Welcome N’Golo Kante

    Werent impressed by them tbf. Im a big fan of Sarri and what he has done, but I also feel theres clearly some things that he is way too stubborn about. Firstly david luiz can do no wrong, and wont ever be dropped. Secondly the 2 youngsters and christensen wont be given any real chances. To the point where he actually subs christensen in the limited minutes he gets. Thirdly, I thought Kante was one of the only decent players for us against Spurs, but he chooses to single him out, when his two sons Luiz and Jorginho had atricious performances. He also said Hudson Odoi needs to improve massively to even be considered, but i promise you if he goes to Dortmund in the summer, he will be playing for England within a year. I hope hes not going to be like mourinho, and think its ok to throw players under the bus to the media
  18. 3 points
  19. 2 points
    I'm fukking freezing on the outside, but obviously warm on the inside. Na nanana nanana nana na Hudson-Odoiiiii!
  20. 2 points
    We have several descendants of Mysic Meg in this forum these days, @Liam - To them the future is clear, and they need no reason or logic to explain it.
  21. 2 points
    I think Willian has definitely slowed us down since he came on
  22. 2 points
  23. 2 points
    SW6 is littered with them
  24. 2 points
    Yeah when he gets the time no one touches him. He'd boss it out somewhere like Italy.
  25. 2 points
    The lineup is almost always available before the club announces it. Guys on Twitter always post it 10-15 minutes before the club announces. Simon Phillips, Alex Goldberg, etc.
  26. 2 points
    enigma

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    Lol reminds me when Pep came to City in the first season and the media, oppo fans etc were all saying "it's not going to work in the PL" or after a few poor results it was "this is the PL, you need to adapt, blah, blah" and now look at them. Smashed the records last season and cruised the league and now they're looking fantastic again this season. Top notch signings have helped a lot with that system too, but a lot of people seem to think they know it all when it comes to the PL and how much better they think it is than other leagues. It surprises me that people see what Pep has done and still go back to the narrative that managers have to play and adapt a certain way to succeed in the PL like this league is tactically superior to La Liga or Serie A for e.g.
  27. 2 points
    PloKoon13

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    I think a large part of the problem of interpreting the way Sarri has set the side up is a lack of understanding of what Jorginho actually does. (And for what it's worth I was equally guilty of expecting this following his signing). Based on what I've heard/read, I think that a lot of people basically expect Jorginho to be Xabi Alonso, or maybe a more dynamic Fabregas. What Jorginho actually does is more akin to a John Obi Mikel with a faster mind, faster feet, but a mere fraction of the defensive instinct. His natural passing game is nowhere near as direct as the former two. This isn't necessarily a problem. A team which is built around keeping the ball will probably need a player like that. It can and will work if we are able to come up with a gameplan which mitigates what are some quite glaring weaknesses. The problem we currently have is that (as it stands) we have a manager who is either unable to do that, or worse, is stubbornly refusing to do that. Even players as gifted as say, Busquets or Modric would struggle given the lack of support the current back five/six receive. You also have to question whether Jorginho's poor defensive form is a result of the player's innate inability to defend (see: Mata, Fabregas), or whether it's due to him faithfully (even competently) executing the instructions he is receiving from his manager. Look at the difference between Willian's defensive contribution as a Sarri player and as a Mourinho player; look at the difference between Coutinho's as a Rodgers player and as a Klopp player. It will be interesting to see how Sarri reacts to this (and he absolutely has to make some sort of change, however minor). That said, considering the noises he's been making this week, I have to say that the early signs are not good.
  28. 2 points
    DannyVblue

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    Dixon has been against Jorginho from the start after hearing those comments from that numpty Stewart Robson
  29. 2 points
    Osgood is Good

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    Calm down mate, you'll give yourself a coronary. In regards to you "going to Chelsea when we were really sh*t"....your Blue Peter Badge is in the post. And just for the record, my first match my old man took me to was in the 69/70 season, however I don't use that as a barometer to measure my loyalty for Chelsea or to gain an advantage in a discussion, because it is simply childish.
  30. 2 points
    EdinburghBlue

    David Luiz back at Chelsea

    He used to have Cole beside him and was still exceptionally error prone. He’s just not a very good defender in a 2 because he gets left exposed unlike a 3 where it’s covered up. People seem to love trotting out Christensen’s mistakes, he’s a young defender learning and he made a handful of mistakes in quick succession and was punished by quality teams like Barca. Luiz has made more mistakes this season that Christensen had in that spell. When it’s been against quality I.e. Spurs & United - he’s been punished. He’s just lucky against lesser sides they’ve not taken the chances. On top of that he’s a 31 year old veteran, he shouldn’t be making these simple mistakes. Whether Christensen is the answer long term I don’t know, but we are extremely vulnerable at the back at the moment and for all the ability on the ball Luiz brings, he cannot defend very well in a 2.
  31. 2 points
    Mod Stark

    David Luiz back at Chelsea

    No, it’s Malouda for not passing the ball.
  32. 2 points
    Osgood is Good

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    Cheers, explains everything. I'll add those 2 golden rules to my ever growing list of golden rules.
  33. 2 points
    I think it's a lot to do with the fact that they only play City twice and are unlikely to get anything out of either match regardless of the effort put in, and, for most of them, dropping a maximum of 6 points isn't a huge thing. Probably "can't be arsed" syndrome, with "I'll save myself for Bournemouth or Fulham"
  34. 2 points
    Nibs

    Tammy Abraham

    Villa can be thankful it wasn't Morata we loaned them otherwise they would have lost 5-1.
  35. 2 points
    yorkleyblue

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    There are two golden rules in life. Never enter a battle of wits against an unarmed man, and the bloke you are "discussing" this topic with has less football awareness than my cat. Anyone claiming to be a Chelsea fan who can manage to shoehorn praise for City and a highlight about how far behind them we are into nearly EVERY post has to be just a little bit suspect. You are arguing with one such, mate.
  36. 2 points
    ForeverCarefree

    Welcome N’Golo Kante

    First time that he's sounded like he's gone on the defensive. Digging his heels in and showing maybe some stubbornness about his system. Hopefully he's not going to fall on his own sword. There's a big problem to address about how we're defending at the moment, teams are finding a lot of space to run at defence in most matches. Jorginho and Fabregas are fine all the time we have the ball but without it they don't have the legs or defensive ability to win the ball back on their own. End of the day we have maybe the best player in the world at breaking down opposing teams attacks and all the time teams are running at us with ease and creating multiple openings against us there is going to be a question mark about why Kante isn't being utilised differently.
  37. 2 points
    I really like Giroud, he's not full of sh*t like other footballers, no excuses from him, and you could see a bit of passion from him on Saturday when he came on and scored. Must start our premier league games from now on, let Morata play his best position (bench)
  38. 2 points
    big blue

    Welcome N’Golo Kante

    I thought it was very interesting that for all of those fans and pundits saying sarri is asking kante to play too advanced, when in actual fact sarri wanted kante to be deeper and closer to jorginho. Is it sarri's tactics, or is it Kante's tactical indiscipline? I'm sure it will be worked out in the coming months, we have seen it work against Liverpool, and for 60 mins against arsenal and United.
  39. 2 points
    EmeraldBlue

    Maurizio Sarri Officially Appointed

    It's not easy to keep everyone happy. If the player is not out on loan I think it is a sign that they're close to being in the first team, but in a results first business they will not get the minutes. Catch 22. Also, many people want to have the youngsters given more playing time but if it doesn't work out then they're often the first to shout 'not Chelsea quality.'
  40. 2 points
    I would prefer Liverpool and Tottenham to get through to the knockout rounds than get knocked down into the Europa League with us. I think Tottenham are screwed, I can't see Inter dropping points against PSV and Tottenham won't beat Barcelona away. Tottenham aren't big time enough to go and create an upset like that. Liverpool's group is very interesting, it's very hard to call. Liverpool tend to pull a performance out of the bag when it's needed at home in Europe, so I wouldn't be surprised if they manage to beat Napoli (1-0 or by two clear goals if Napoli score) I could easily see PSG slipping up to Red Star Belgrade too, PSG tend to slip up when they shouldn't. The ideal result would be Red Star Belgrade somehow beating PSG and Napoli beating Liverpool, then Liverpool would finish 4th and get knocked out of Europe completely.
  41. 2 points
    For 99% of that match Inter showing how to make Tottenham look decidedly average when you have an organized back line that has two decent central defenders who know how to defend properly.
  42. 2 points
    Osgood is Good

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    Jorginho is not a defensive midfielder, he is a deep lying ball playing midfielder. Therein lies the difference. Sarri like Pep will not abandon his style of play. It is amazing that we all want a different style of football but yet some are not willing to be patient.
  43. 2 points
    DannyVblue

    Maurizio Sarri Officially Appointed

    Have just about got over the disappointment from Saturday, so I've been catching up with everyone's views/thoughts on the game. Obviously, we had a shocker. We were way off the pace in every department and deserved to lose - it didn't help that we had to play against 12 men though, the ref was shocking. I knew there would be a lot of talk about the Kante/Jorginho positions, but I actually thought Kante was our best outfield player. Kepa was our MOM. Jorginho got absolutely ruined for pace against Son, but that doesn't mean that he should be swapped for Kante, far from it. Sarri's style is to defend as a team in a block which in theory should restrict the space our opponents have between the lines (similar to city). To do this you need to be brave and play with a very high line as the defenders need to be as close to the midfield as possible. This completely went out of the window against spurs. Our defense was pushed way too deep by Kane and Son, then they'd both drop deep to pick up the ball unopposed and in acres off space and allowed to run at our back-line. When this happens you're in trouble. This happened countless times, it was painful viewing. I don't think there's a problem with Sarri's tactics, it's just the players didn't follow them. we are however still getting used to this system. It seems our default way of defending is to drop deep (which creates the space between the midfield and defense), rather than press forward in a line and try and catch their attackers offside. I'm sure that Sarri is working on this. Sarri said when he joined Napoli that he might lose his first 10 games of the season, but then things would start to improve. We've been lucky that we've managed a very good start whilst trying to change our whole playing philosophy, but I personally believe that you can only fully learn a new style and improve once you've made mistakes and suffered defeats. Saturday was a learning curve - I'm backing our players to step up to the challenge and improve a lot over the next couple of months.
  44. 2 points
    I'm sorry but what better game is there for the lad to improve and get game time than an dead rubber of European fixture at home? Hazard and Moses have been confirmed as carrying injuries so start Pedro and Willian (again) in a game that has nothing riding on it and instead give a chance to a player who could maybe, just maybe push for a starting place if given an honest chance in a game rather than a token 5 minutes before the end of the game.
  45. 2 points
    mclovin83

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    He obviously isn't going to "get rid of Jorginho". Jorginho is essential to his system, and has been fantastic on the most part this season. I do believe we need to show more flexibility however, and be open to switching players around depending on the opposition, and how the game is playing out. I don't believe Kante is required in the starting 11 when we are playing a team offering little/no attacking threat. RLC or Fabregas are more likely to unlock a defence. Equally, I don't believe Jorginho should be on his own in a holding role when we are going toe to toe with a team as attack minded as Spurs, who were getting the better of our midfield from the off. There is a half way house in my opinion, but if you want to "get rid" of Jorginho then you might as well "get rid" of Sarri as well, as I am certain Sarri is going to bin off his entire philosophy because of his first defeat of the season.
  46. 2 points
    Nibs

    Tammy Abraham

    Don't want to be too critical of the club (again) as we could all produce a long list of players we thought were good enough and who would make it only for them to have slipped down and down the leagues, many never to be heard of again. Even with Tammy, I have seen him struggle at times and had my doubts that he would make it at the top level. But sometimes these youngsters need to be shown a bit of faith and given a chance. Hand on Heart, could anyone watching both Abraham and Morata over a period of time, honestly say that Morata is much the better striker and worth £60M compared to whatever Tammy's current market rate is? At least Abraham would give EVERYTHING and wouldn't spend half the game on his arse moaning at the ref and the rest of the game offside. He had a phenomenal record at Chelsea youth level and at Bristol and now at Villa he has a record of a goal every other game plus a decent record at England U21 level. He even started well at Swansea but then was effected by injury and the fact he was playing in a sh*t team battling relegation. I'm not certain he IS Chelsea first team standard, but right now I honestly think he would put in a better shift than our current No. 29.
  47. 1 point
    You have history in losing parts of your body.
  48. 1 point
    Valerie

    Thibaut Courtois

    Well, he does deserve something for his beautiful Roman Emperor sort of name.
  49. 1 point
    Osgood is Good

    Sarriball needs a plan a.1

    Unfortunately, it appears that you do not understand the style of play implemented by Sarri. Watch Sarri's Napoli side and then you may understand that Jorgihno is integral. No point discussing any further.
  50. 1 point
    It is not looking good now as we have Europa on Thursday and our form has just dropped for the 2nd consecutive match. Sarri does not have a clear week to work on the team now until at least Jan is out. I agree we probably lack a motivational presence in the dressing room to fire up the players pre-match, really for Spurs we need a born and bred Londoner yet don't see any in the squad with this quality and the motivational presence. I don't have a problem with Sarris subs today yet hope he has made up his mind on Morata. When your team is struggling you need your striker to be on form and that rarely seems to be the case. We have been hammered before by Spurs. 5-1 in the league cup in 2002 we can bounce back from this. Spurs seemed to now how to break us down as did Everton and a couple of times we've had to change formations with preceding managers midseason, last season Azpi's crosses to Morata were stopped, Fabregas was pushed to the bench. Now it is Sarri's turn to work out what needs to change.

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