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  1. 16 points
    You're not going to watch your team in a European Final because we might lose? Shocking mentality.
  2. 15 points
    g3.7

    Sarri - In or Out?

    in, but that isn't to say he's been perfect. reasons are: -he's essentially a coach. his reputation is built on that. so joining so late before the season started, and having to play thurs-sun all season, has denied him of a lot of time to really imprint his methods. despite this, we've acheived the target of going back into the champions league, and we've made two finals. -the squad is a mix of players suited to different styles, and a lot of the "best" players in the squad are past their very best (or on the turn). so even with a flatter track in terms of coaching time, this isn't the easiest set of players to mould. sarri signed one outfield player to add to this, and a further two on loan. he shouldn't be judged against most other chelsea managers under abramovich in this respect, as he has been afforded far less. -I think a lot of people have an artificially large expectation of what this squad should be doing because antonio conte is one of the four or five best managers in the world. even those who may no longer like conte may suffer a little from this. sarri is a fine coach, and the football his previous sides in particular attest to this. -I know there has been a lot of frustration about his reticence, or apparent reluctance to do so earlier, but this is actually the manager who put loftus cheek in. and he put huson-odoi in too, and had the welsh kid in ahead of cahill for a lot of the campaign as well. I'm not pretending there was no argument to do so earlier, or more, but credit where it's due here. -finally, I know a lot of people point to guardiola's first season (with others assuming the implication is that those who do are suggesting we will canter to the title next season), but I'd like make two slightly related points: a) recall pochettino and klopp's first seasons with spurs and liverpool. if you can. b) we've met our minimum target, and yet we're still supposed to sack the manager? how is starting from scratch again going to help us? guardiola must laugh himself to sleep every night thinking about how right he was to reject our advances. this is no way to run a club: allowing relations with a genuinely great manager (the calibre of which, be in no doubt, we can no longer attract) to sour to the extent we need to sack him; allowing our best player to run his contract down so we need to sell at cut price; sacking said manager too late to give the new one time to actually do any coaching or truly assess his new squad; then sacking the new guy despite his meeting minimum requirement with a hand tied behind his back, so the new guy can arrive to a club with no director of football and a two window transfer ban. for those keeping count, we've done all of the above and you are proposing we follow that up by doing the new bit in bold. In the long term sarri might not be right for us, but keeping him for now is the pragmatic thing to do.
  3. 15 points
    Sparkz

    Sarri - In or Out?

    No pre-season No top class striker First time managing outside of Italy Top 4 finish, runners up in the League Cup and a good chance to make the Europa League Final. We also have two players from our academy in RLC and Hudson-Odoi who have basically broken into the first 11 He's made mistakes, been stubborn and been frustrating at times but has actually done a very good job to be fair to him You also have to take into account the fact that he's playing a completely different system to what this squad is used to and that takes time
  4. 14 points
    mclovin83

    Ruben Loftus-Cheek

    This one isn't on Sarri mate. He openly opposed the fixture, but had no choice but to participate. I am sure the board didn't pick the team, but I am also sure Sarri was obliged to give a certain number of big names a run out. With hindsight it's easy to say this person or that person should have been fully rested, but an injury to any player expected to start the final would have been greeted with the same response. It was a insanely stupid fixture to arrange prior to the biggest game of the season, and that's on the club not Sarri. The potential positives (staying fresh and sharp) were always going to be greatly outweighed by the potential negatives (injury to key players) and we have come a cropper, bigtime. It's not Sarri's fault though, and to try and pin blame on him is just a bit odd really...
  5. 14 points
    Zeta

    Chelsea get Top FOUR

    Thanks to all those whose efforts made this possible - Ole Gunner Solskjaer, Unai Emery... you guys are the best.
  6. 13 points
    Argo

    Sarri - In or Out?

    Our current points tally is enough for top four 20 times out of the last 23 season's. Infact some season's teams that have ended up with 71 points we're in a title race heading to the business end (Spurs 15/16, Chelsea 10/11) admitedly an outside chance but still. If we win at Leicester our final points tally would have been enough 22 times out of the last 23. It's an absolute myth that we are lucky to be in top four, infact we would have been very unlucky to have missed out with this points tally.
  7. 13 points
    Liverpool winning the CL wouldn't bother me too much just as long as City win the league. I shudder at the thought of Liverpool doing the League and CL double. Tottenham really have no business being in the CL final. It's like if Michael Bay was nominated for an oscar, it's an absolute travesty. The biggest victims here though are the people of Madrid, who will see their fine city invaded by tens of thousands of scousers and spuds on the 1st of June. Nobody deserves that.
  8. 13 points
    PloKoon13

    Ruben Loftus-Cheek

  9. 12 points
    Valerie

    Sarri - In or Out?

    You've just described the whole point of a competition: 20 clubs play to see which of them has won the most points over 38 matches each. That includes the very lucky results, the bottle jobs, and the matches that are decided by one corner, or one send-off, or whatever. Why give it a negative slant? Like every club, we try to improve for the next season. Getting rid of a manager again, without having any idea who to appoint next, and the players learning a new system again, is not a step on the road to improvement.
  10. 12 points
    I see United also wore their new kit today ...
  11. 12 points
    So if you think 90% of our players wouldn't start for a top 6 side, then us currently being in 4th means Sarri's management can't be that appaling then? Can't have it both ways surely.
  12. 12 points
    You gotta laugh...they moan when he leaves them on the bench.....now moaning we didnt put them back on the bench
  13. 11 points
    Shweaves

    Sarri - In or Out?

    Frankfurt rested their main players on the weekend whilst we put out our full-strength side. Since last Thursday, they've essentially been preparing for this game and I don't think anyone can admit they're pushovers. We, however, went all out against a strong watford side (now in the FA Cup final) to secure our Champions league spot. Frankfurt put all their eggs in one basket to win the champions league and it showed, they put everything into this game. Their energy was immense, and the support drove their team on. We withstood a lot of pressure, had good chances and were piling on the pressure right to the end. Why are people seeing this as the final nail in the coffin for Sarri?? I'm tired of hearing boos from Chelsea fans every time I go to a game... Loftus Cheek was tiring after 75 mins, he wasn't playing with the same energy and aggression as the first half AND he's been recovering from a back injury for months. Instead of mindless booing, why don't we back our team and create an inspiring atmosphere for the players rather!!
  14. 11 points
    Kentonio

    Sarri - In or Out?

    A few comments from the CL final match thread of this very forum to stir your memory.. Any of this sound any different to the match threads from this year? The night we beat Bayern was one of the best football nights I've ever had, but let's not pretend we won it through some display of football genius. We won it because we got lucky that night, and it didn't matter a damn because many of the same players should have won several CL's before that and they deserved to finally lift that big bastard trophy and scream in the faces of the European giants who had treated us like upstarts until that night. This forum has been full of wailing and teeth gnashing this year, with people talking like its the end of days because a new manager hasn't turned us into the new Barcelona overnight. It's long past time that people remembered that there's been plenty of times when we didn't look like much before but still went on to have some of the greatest nights in the clubs history. Now can we just enjoy making it to another European trophy final, support the manager and the lads and have some fun again? Tomorrow will bring what it brings, but Chelsea will still be here regardless.
  15. 11 points
    We beat the German's on penalties again!
  16. 11 points
    Stim

    Two Transfer Window Ban?

    Christ some of you sound like we are getting ready to battle relegation
  17. 11 points
    chiefBlueCFC

    Chelsea get Top FOUR

    And by horrendous, you mean glorious of course
  18. 11 points
    PloKoon13

    Chelsea get Top FOUR

    Hahaha how the f**k have we managed that?
  19. 11 points
    Argo

    Mateo Kovačić

    Bit extreme
  20. 11 points
    Flicking through the thread on the way home I just have to say thanks god you miserable f**kers don’t turn out to support the team. Imagine how sh*te they’d be with you moany old f**kers there and not the amazing away support they always get behind them
  21. 11 points
    Boston Blue

    Sarri - In or Out?

    I thought one of the best quotes I read was when Conte was appointed and he said that the coach was a tailor and had to stitch together the parts he had. The first 3 or 4 games were underwhelming, he changed, and we took off from there. Jose was also a master of adapting and changing things when things weren't working. What I think frustrates us is that Sarri is not the one to adapt and change. He's looking for the players to do it. He's being stubborn and when things aren't working, he digs his heels in and continues to do the same things, but for some reason, expects a different result (the definition of insanity). A manager is supposed to figure out how to get the best out of his employees. When you manage people, you tell them what your expectations are for them, and you create an environment that helps them meet (or exceed) those expectations. If they don't, you figure out why, and correct it. If that still doesn't work, you find others who will. The other issue is that Sarri continues with the same players he accuses of being mentally weak, or those that don't move the ball as he wants. There's no consequence for not doing what he's asking.
  22. 11 points
    Match day and my 63rd birthday,a win would be nice.....COME ON YOU BLUES !
  23. 10 points
    What would the league table look like if dives got yellow cards instead of penalties.......
  24. 10 points
    ForeverCarefree

    Willian

    That being the season we hovered above the relegation zone for half the year? He scored a couple of spawny free kicks early on that season that were probably intended as crosses and because collectively the entire team were sh*t that year Willian wins the award for being a bit less sh*t than everyone else rather than having an outstanding season.
  25. 10 points
    Pundits and commentators have been going on about the bin dippers only losing one game in the league this season but conveniently forgetting that City won more games. Throughout sport there have been many close finishes - I can think of many times when there have been very small gaps between winners and runners-up in Formula One - and so often people only remember winners and not the runners up. In years to come, how many will remember how close Liverpool came? Although, I suspect the ex-Liverpool players on Sky, BT Sport, the BBC and in several papers will like to remind us.
  26. 10 points
  27. 10 points
    I'm gonna bite. Top 4, two finals, massive change in playing style. Absolutely a work in progress, there's been mistakes and there's been ups and downs in progress, but considering the squad we have and where we were last year, this has been a decent season. I'm maybe in the minority but I think he's had a promising start, and I'm looking forward to next season. Maybe just on a semi-final win high? I'm happy.
  28. 10 points
    UEFA worst nightmare. Four English teams contesting their showpiece finals.
  29. 10 points
    Dean

    Sarri - In or Out?

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But you have to change your mind as the facts change. So i have to ask some of the doubters - how can you persist with the same criticisms when, one by one, they've been answered, to varying degrees? here are a few: 1. Sarri stubborn on team selection: see others' stats above on RLC and CHO. Whether it was fan pressure that did it or not is irrelevant - the stubbornness argument no longer holds true. 2. We always lose when we concede first: ahem Cardiff away, Burnley at home, United away, Frankfurt away... did i miss any? ok all but one ended in draws (again, did i miss some?) but still a hell of an improvement on what was going on in our dark patch. 3. No team spirit: see 2. 4. Lack of imagination on subs: when was the last time we saw Kovacic for Barkley or vice versa (and this ties in with one)? 5. Always play worse in the second half: last two matches the exact opposite. 6. boring football - ok this is somewhat subjective, but i think it's unfair. While we have lacked consistency, there have been some great performances with top quality football - off the top of my head - Watford second half, belly of the Frankfurt game, Tottenham at home, West Ham at home, City final.... As i said, you are entitled to think Sarri is not the coach for us. But i don't think it can any longer be based on any of the above. Kudos to abramovich (not THE abramovich, or at least i don't think so) for basically acknowledging this and giving credit where due. And he may well yet be right to still be sceptical. We "ins" could easily be wrong come next season and should be ready to change our minds too. But for now - the table doesn't lie (solskjaer said so and it's hardly in his interest to say it), and there's no point rationalising it with "it's only coz man u, tottenham etc were crap". 1. they're probably not that crap (one is in CL semi); 2. so what (great even!) if they are.
  30. 10 points
    Malcolm9

    Chelsea get Top FOUR

    So Sarri has finished higher than both Klopp and Pep in his first season compared to their first seasons, this despite having a squad suited to the 352 system under Conte. Hopefully we can sign players next season and let the revival happen. The one thing we need is a team with more goalscorers, when you the look at the GD City & Liverpool have compared to the rest no wonder they are both that many points clear. As for finishing in the top 4, it's not because Arsenal & Spurs choked, as we choked many times to let them into it. In the end we scored more points and deserve our top 4 place.
  31. 10 points
    DannyVblue

    Chelsea get Top FOUR

    Get in! Back where we belong! Sarri has managed to improve on last season’s 70 points with 1 game to spare, and has also got us back into the top 4. And he’s done it with a very stale squad inherited from Conte. You’d have to say this season has now been a success and has given us a great platform to build upon. Fingers crossed that we can get this transfer ban delayed for a window. Absolutely ridiculous that Sarri has had to endure some of the criticism he’s received from some fans, especially considering it his first season at the club and in a new league. Hopefully he’ll get some credit now from those fans, but I’m already reading comments that we only made it because the we were a little bit less $hit than the rest. It doesn’t matter what the other teams have done, all that matters is that we have secured top 4. And we’ve done it with 71 points which is enough to get top 4 in most seasons. We’ve earnt it.
  32. 10 points
    Can’t give a sh*t what he said, guys a legend. Played through injury to win our only Champions League trophy. Captained us to a League title. Boasts a trophy cabinet bigger than 99% of clubs put together. Thanks for everything Gaz!
  33. 10 points
    Let's not pretend he hasn't made a huge difference to that Liverpool side. Last year Liverpool finished the season having conceded 38 goals, with two games left to play they've currently only let in 20. Liverpool have lost just once this season too having lost 5 last year. He's transformed that back line, if that's not a reason to be up for player of the year what is? I get that as Chelsea fans we don't want to praise the scousers for anything but surely we can acknowledge what a good season VVD has had for Liverpool?
  34. 10 points
    Burnley fans booing timewasting? Why, the irony is astounding!
  35. 10 points
    dkw

    Racist fanbase???

    The so called racist who abused sterling has been found not guilty after lip reading experts backed his claim that he wasn't racially abusing him. As expected the f**king vermin who jumped all over hin claiming he was 100% guilty havent said a word, no apologise from sky, collymore, levene, Lineker etc, and I'm pretty sure it will be completely ignored by the media. Meanwhile the poor sod has lost his job, season ticket and has had his address given on twitter by daily mail reporters meaning he has received disgusting, unwarranted abuse. I hope he sues every single person involved.
  36. 10 points
  37. 10 points
    PloKoon13

    Our New Stadium

    I see Tottenham are considering the installation of a retractable hinge roof:
  38. 10 points
    Barry Bridges

    Callum Hudson-Odoi

    No offense, but this is actually getting ludicrous. Are we really comparing benching Sane/Sterling/Silva (both) for Foden with benching Pedro/Willian for CHO? I mean are we really trying so hard to justify Sarri's decisions that we are really having to compare benching Sane (23 years old) & Sterling (24 years old) who have a combined 41 goals & assists to Willian (30) and Pedro (31) who have a combined 17 goals& assists? To take it to taking the piss levels, Sane alone has the same output in 1529 minutes that Willian and Pedro have combined in 3,258 minutes. That alone explains it, but we haven't even mentioned either of the Silva's (yup, both in double digit goals and assists) or Mahrez (more output than Willian, equal to Pedro, far less minutes than either)...and I'm just going to stop there before I get depressed. Pep has given Foden only 20 minutes less in the league than CHO has gotten despite that Chelsea only has 1 attacking player currently putting up numbers like half a dozen City players are.....add in that many of those City players are quite young themselves, while our squad desperately needs some younger players added to it. That is why the bias exists, and it is clearly deserved. Who really wants to kid themselves otherwise?
  39. 10 points
    If you believe the media stories Roman was more interested in Tottenham than Chelsea before he took us over. My opinion. He has lost his passion and that passion will probably never be as strong as those of us raised on Chelsea. Fair enough, I will always have Chelsea in my heart but admit I don't have the same all consuming passion and interest I did when I was younger. There were times, many times, when I put following Chelsea before my family commitments. Not proud of that now, but I honestly did. And the money I have spent over the years I would suspect was a greater percentage of my net worth and disposable income at that time than that which Roman has spent. Not slagging Roman. His interest and his finances took us to trophies I never thought I would see in my lifetime. I have memories that will last a lifetime thanks to Roman's investment. But nothing lasts forever. The club is stagnating. I have felt, for quite awhile now, that to move forward again and stay in the world's elite clubs we need a change at the very top.
  40. 9 points
  41. 9 points
    bisright1

    Wrong about Sarri?

    Conte is the past. That style of football worked for one year, then died on its arse. Because it wasn't sustainable and it really wasn't very pretty when we started to be found out. If we had that years Costa in this set up, we would be doing a damn site better than 73 points as well. We'd have won today comfortably, we'd have beaten United at their place. Just be f**king patient and see how we do next year and stop carping on, it's embarrassing when we consider the two teams ahead of us had worse first seasons when their "project managers" took over.
  42. 9 points
  43. 9 points
    Argo

    Sarri - In or Out?

    The desperation to knock Sarri for any little thing is worse. Some are constructive and credit where it's due but others use a ridiculously extreme cases of mental gymnastics to turn him into the villian. Take Hudson Odoi for example. At the start of the season it's "he should be atleast getting the minutes Foden does at City" soon as he can eclipses Foden's minutes it's "it's only the Europa" no doubt if he was getting the PL minutes it would be "but we don't trust him in the tournament we could win". Then he was getting the PL minutes it was "but fan pressure has forced his hand". Heck even a full England call up which led to him being one of the youngest debutants ever on the back of the minutes he got here was used as a stick to beat him with. I try to avoid the agenda route but on Sarri's case I have to wonder, not only with a section of our fanbase but the media in general aswell, Jenas's attempts to play down Sarri's role in RLC's development minutes after Ruben's TV interview stating how much Sarri has helped him improve was beyond laughable.
  44. 9 points
    dkw

    Sarri - In or Out?

    The desperation to make out we have somehow flunked our way to a possible 3rd place finish because everyone is garbage, even though we're 3rd in current form and our points are would see a usual top 4 finish us staggering, why are so many Chelsea wanting to constantly talk anything Chelsea related down. Its so f**king weird.
  45. 9 points
    Tottenham Hotspur. The only possible team that could make me want Liverpool to win the European Cup.
  46. 9 points
    I assume Sarri is concerned about RLC‘s fitness. We all know he’s got back problems and has to be used carefully. That’s a respectable result and the second half performance was one of our better ones for a while. I’ll leave it for others to explain why we should be miserable.
  47. 9 points
    Desailly123

    Sarri - In or Out?

    Napoli fans protesting for the return of Maurizio Sarri as they wish to sack Carlo Ancelotti. It's almost like they know how good Sarri is if he's given time and trust. But our fans will beg for Ancelotti and then when we're in the same position next season wonder what the problem is. So sick of this, why can't we actually give managers chances? City kept Pellegrini and Pep, Liverpool kept Klopp, Spurs kept Pochettino. None of them would have lasted at Chelsea. Rome wasn't built in a day, and whether people like it or not, our team isn't good and so cannot compete for titles at the minute. In fact of the 4 key aspects of the club; players, manager, board and owner. I actually think Sarri is the one with the least issues. But yet our fans will expect Sarri to turn Kovacic into a 10 goal a season midfielder, Willian and Pedro into good wingers and Alonso into prime Cole. Are Sarri's lineups poor? Yes. But it seems in recent years we as fans don't understand that managers have bad spells. When Pep lost 4-0 to Everton in his first season, we'd have campaigned for him to get the sack and brought in someone like Simeone.
  48. 9 points
    Scott Harris

    Sarri - In or Out?

    My biggest concern with Sarri is that he rarely out smarts managers with tactics. The only time I have really seen him do it is against City early in the season, and I'm starting to think it was a fluke at this point. You see coaches adjust their tactics to get a result against us, but Sarri never actually seems to respond to that, he just sticks to his original set up with the same like for like substitutions. Burnley in the second half last night was the perfect example of this. Sean Dyche decided to go ultra defensive in that second half, but we just stuck to the original plan, right until the full time whistle was blown. Sarri didn't adjust our tactics one bit to force the result last night and it's something he has been doing all season. You could see early on in the second half that we weren't going to score unless Sarri changed something, but he didn't do it, he never does.
  49. 9 points
    robdog

    Ken Bates: The Chelsea Years

    I guess we should call April 2nd Mr. Ken Bates Day. On this day back in 1982, Ken Bates bought Chelsea Football Club for only a pound. If this didn't happen, I believe the club would no longer exist. So I suggest any Chelsea Fan around the Globe raise their pint Glass for Mr. Bates today.
  50. 9 points
    ForeverCarefree

    Sarri - In or Out?

    If we've got a transfer ban going into the summer then I wouldn't appose the idea of new managerial team coming in with the brief of "we've got all these youngsters, let's see what they can do for a year". Arguments sake it's Steve Holland with JT as his assistant, both really familiar with club and know a lot about the youth players already. They come in and they're there to bring out the best in CHO, Ampadu, Christensen, Abraham, RLC and we move on some of the more senior players like Willian, Luiz for example and maybe bring through a couple of others in place of the likes of Zappacosta who are fringe players anyway. If that happened, as unlikely as it is, I think fans would show a lot more patience than they have with the team this season.

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