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  1. 16 points
    You're not going to watch your team in a European Final because we might lose? Shocking mentality.
  2. 15 points
    g3.7

    Sarri - In or Out?

    in, but that isn't to say he's been perfect. reasons are: -he's essentially a coach. his reputation is built on that. so joining so late before the season started, and having to play thurs-sun all season, has denied him of a lot of time to really imprint his methods. despite this, we've acheived the target of going back into the champions league, and we've made two finals. -the squad is a mix of players suited to different styles, and a lot of the "best" players in the squad are past their very best (or on the turn). so even with a flatter track in terms of coaching time, this isn't the easiest set of players to mould. sarri signed one outfield player to add to this, and a further two on loan. he shouldn't be judged against most other chelsea managers under abramovich in this respect, as he has been afforded far less. -I think a lot of people have an artificially large expectation of what this squad should be doing because antonio conte is one of the four or five best managers in the world. even those who may no longer like conte may suffer a little from this. sarri is a fine coach, and the football his previous sides in particular attest to this. -I know there has been a lot of frustration about his reticence, or apparent reluctance to do so earlier, but this is actually the manager who put loftus cheek in. and he put huson-odoi in too, and had the welsh kid in ahead of cahill for a lot of the campaign as well. I'm not pretending there was no argument to do so earlier, or more, but credit where it's due here. -finally, I know a lot of people point to guardiola's first season (with others assuming the implication is that those who do are suggesting we will canter to the title next season), but I'd like make two slightly related points: a) recall pochettino and klopp's first seasons with spurs and liverpool. if you can. b) we've met our minimum target, and yet we're still supposed to sack the manager? how is starting from scratch again going to help us? guardiola must laugh himself to sleep every night thinking about how right he was to reject our advances. this is no way to run a club: allowing relations with a genuinely great manager (the calibre of which, be in no doubt, we can no longer attract) to sour to the extent we need to sack him; allowing our best player to run his contract down so we need to sell at cut price; sacking said manager too late to give the new one time to actually do any coaching or truly assess his new squad; then sacking the new guy despite his meeting minimum requirement with a hand tied behind his back, so the new guy can arrive to a club with no director of football and a two window transfer ban. for those keeping count, we've done all of the above and you are proposing we follow that up by doing the new bit in bold. In the long term sarri might not be right for us, but keeping him for now is the pragmatic thing to do.
  3. 15 points
    Sparkz

    Sarri - In or Out?

    No pre-season No top class striker First time managing outside of Italy Top 4 finish, runners up in the League Cup and a good chance to make the Europa League Final. We also have two players from our academy in RLC and Hudson-Odoi who have basically broken into the first 11 He's made mistakes, been stubborn and been frustrating at times but has actually done a very good job to be fair to him You also have to take into account the fact that he's playing a completely different system to what this squad is used to and that takes time
  4. 14 points
    Liam

    Season's Player Ratings with NOBS on

    Season’s player ratings out of 10 using an innovative decimal system which gives me 20 available rating points. This week’s specious comparison is the Nationality of Best Suitability (NOBS) – an assessment of the nationality a player should be based on my expert assessment of his personality and my extensive knowledge of national stereotypes based on a lifetime of working with Johnny Foreigner. I’ve left out a few players so you can have a go because I’m a giver. Kepa – 7 - Bonus point for the excellence of his distribution and his undoubted bravery in taking the ball in tight situations. Never shy in making a routine save look spectacular and does not dominate his box in any way whatsoever. Will hopefully improve and could yet be a notch or two below world class. NOBS – Saudi – Exhibits a sense of entitlement often seen in the “there are no poor people in my country – insurance, what insurance” Saudi male. The women are great. “I’m not coming off the pitch, you can’t make me”. Dave – 6.5 – Lovely man, Captain in name only. Never any issue with effort and defensively sound but severely lacking in the “offensive phase” being about as useful as a wall angled at about 70 degrees. NOBS – Belgian. Bland, safe, unremarkable in every way, inoffensive, harmless, who you could accept as a son-in-law if it looked as if nothing better is on the horizon. Zappacosta – 5.5 – Made a few brief appearances and had no appreciable effect whatsoever. Limited. NOBS – Syrian. It’s the murine appearance, I’m afraid. Luiz – 6.5 – Obviously not a centre half. Not really any type of a defender or meaningful contributor to the *defensive phase”. Not a holding midfielder and not much use in any other position. Anything he has won has been in spite of him. Sprays the odd nice pass and smiles a lot. Would be a good man to have around in an orgy you’d think. NOBS – Brazilian. Everybody’s second favourite nationality. It’s the smooth facial skin like a carefully maintained mons pubis – and the teeth. Alonso – 5 – Found out this season, unfortunately. Tall. NOBS – Danish. No real defining characteristics. Tall. Kovacic – 5 – Library book of a footballer, careworn, slightly frayed, easily misplaced, forgettable. Wouldn’t get near a Mourinho midfield, lacking, as he does, any semblance of athleticism. Reminds me of an extremely poor man’s Ray Wilkins. NOBS – Any Eastern European statelet you can spell. Let him stay in your spare room while he sorts himself out and he’s still there 3 years later. Hazard – 8 – Happily I think the few wise old heads among us do know how lucky we have been to have had this diamond with us for so long. Outrageously talented, resilient, brave, imaginative and possessed of a measured intelligence, he has been a once in generation adornment to our beloved club. NOBS – Irish – Everybody’s favourite nationality. Perhaps it is the 800 years of being oppressed by less than benign imperial neighbours that has produced a nation of modest, fun, universally loved rogues. Kante – 8 – Completes our complement of two world class players. Showed his footballing intelligence by regularly excelling in a position which does not utilise his vast cannon of skills. He just gets on with it in a way that is rare in today’s pampered multi-millionaire. We are lucky to have him. Short. NOBS – Japanese – When they are not concealing cameras in toilet bowls they are actually modest, industrious, all-round good eggs. Short. Hudson Odoi – 7 – We must keep this young man or it could rival the De Bruyne/Salah worst decision in the history of sport category of which we are the reigning world champions. Just roll him the ball and let him play. NOBS – Citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Are you staying or leaving? We want to leave but you won’t let us. Just go for feck’s sake – sorry if we don’t look like we’ll fall apart without you. Can we just pretend to leave but really stay? Willian – 5.5 – Sorry but you are playing in the best league in the world, for one of the best clubs, treated like royalty, with a decent amount of talent, basically living the dream, yet you slope about the place looking f**king miserable you pouting stream of piss. No one likes you. NOBS – Israeli – No one likes them. Sarri – 7 – Strange man. Off the scale stubborn and clearly incapable of even listening to advice. Yet is capable of getting his message across to the players. I like him as he is clearly in touch with his death wish and has worse teeth than me, which very few do. NOBS – Russian living in Germany. Dour, joyless and somehow incapable of appreciating the break that life has given.
  5. 14 points
    mclovin83

    Ruben Loftus-Cheek

    This one isn't on Sarri mate. He openly opposed the fixture, but had no choice but to participate. I am sure the board didn't pick the team, but I am also sure Sarri was obliged to give a certain number of big names a run out. With hindsight it's easy to say this person or that person should have been fully rested, but an injury to any player expected to start the final would have been greeted with the same response. It was a insanely stupid fixture to arrange prior to the biggest game of the season, and that's on the club not Sarri. The potential positives (staying fresh and sharp) were always going to be greatly outweighed by the potential negatives (injury to key players) and we have come a cropper, bigtime. It's not Sarri's fault though, and to try and pin blame on him is just a bit odd really...
  6. 14 points
    Zeta

    Chelsea get Top FOUR

    Thanks to all those whose efforts made this possible - Ole Gunner Solskjaer, Unai Emery... you guys are the best.
  7. 13 points
    Argo

    Sarri - In or Out?

    Our current points tally is enough for top four 20 times out of the last 23 season's. Infact some season's teams that have ended up with 71 points we're in a title race heading to the business end (Spurs 15/16, Chelsea 10/11) admitedly an outside chance but still. If we win at Leicester our final points tally would have been enough 22 times out of the last 23. It's an absolute myth that we are lucky to be in top four, infact we would have been very unlucky to have missed out with this points tally.
  8. 13 points
    Liverpool winning the CL wouldn't bother me too much just as long as City win the league. I shudder at the thought of Liverpool doing the League and CL double. Tottenham really have no business being in the CL final. It's like if Michael Bay was nominated for an oscar, it's an absolute travesty. The biggest victims here though are the people of Madrid, who will see their fine city invaded by tens of thousands of scousers and spuds on the 1st of June. Nobody deserves that.
  9. 12 points
    Valerie

    Sarri - In or Out?

    You've just described the whole point of a competition: 20 clubs play to see which of them has won the most points over 38 matches each. That includes the very lucky results, the bottle jobs, and the matches that are decided by one corner, or one send-off, or whatever. Why give it a negative slant? Like every club, we try to improve for the next season. Getting rid of a manager again, without having any idea who to appoint next, and the players learning a new system again, is not a step on the road to improvement.
  10. 12 points
    I see United also wore their new kit today ...
  11. 11 points
    Shweaves

    Sarri - In or Out?

    Frankfurt rested their main players on the weekend whilst we put out our full-strength side. Since last Thursday, they've essentially been preparing for this game and I don't think anyone can admit they're pushovers. We, however, went all out against a strong watford side (now in the FA Cup final) to secure our Champions league spot. Frankfurt put all their eggs in one basket to win the champions league and it showed, they put everything into this game. Their energy was immense, and the support drove their team on. We withstood a lot of pressure, had good chances and were piling on the pressure right to the end. Why are people seeing this as the final nail in the coffin for Sarri?? I'm tired of hearing boos from Chelsea fans every time I go to a game... Loftus Cheek was tiring after 75 mins, he wasn't playing with the same energy and aggression as the first half AND he's been recovering from a back injury for months. Instead of mindless booing, why don't we back our team and create an inspiring atmosphere for the players rather!!
  12. 11 points
    Kentonio

    Sarri - In or Out?

    A few comments from the CL final match thread of this very forum to stir your memory.. Any of this sound any different to the match threads from this year? The night we beat Bayern was one of the best football nights I've ever had, but let's not pretend we won it through some display of football genius. We won it because we got lucky that night, and it didn't matter a damn because many of the same players should have won several CL's before that and they deserved to finally lift that big bastard trophy and scream in the faces of the European giants who had treated us like upstarts until that night. This forum has been full of wailing and teeth gnashing this year, with people talking like its the end of days because a new manager hasn't turned us into the new Barcelona overnight. It's long past time that people remembered that there's been plenty of times when we didn't look like much before but still went on to have some of the greatest nights in the clubs history. Now can we just enjoy making it to another European trophy final, support the manager and the lads and have some fun again? Tomorrow will bring what it brings, but Chelsea will still be here regardless.
  13. 11 points
    We beat the German's on penalties again!
  14. 11 points
    Stim

    Two Transfer Window Ban?

    Christ some of you sound like we are getting ready to battle relegation
  15. 11 points
    chiefBlueCFC

    Chelsea get Top FOUR

    And by horrendous, you mean glorious of course
  16. 11 points
    PloKoon13

    Chelsea get Top FOUR

    Hahaha how the f**k have we managed that?
  17. 11 points
    Argo

    Mateo Kovačić

    Bit extreme
  18. 11 points
    Flicking through the thread on the way home I just have to say thanks god you miserable f**kers don’t turn out to support the team. Imagine how sh*te they’d be with you moany old f**kers there and not the amazing away support they always get behind them
  19. 10 points
    What would the league table look like if dives got yellow cards instead of penalties.......
  20. 10 points
    ForeverCarefree

    Willian

    That being the season we hovered above the relegation zone for half the year? He scored a couple of spawny free kicks early on that season that were probably intended as crosses and because collectively the entire team were sh*t that year Willian wins the award for being a bit less sh*t than everyone else rather than having an outstanding season.
  21. 10 points
    Pundits and commentators have been going on about the bin dippers only losing one game in the league this season but conveniently forgetting that City won more games. Throughout sport there have been many close finishes - I can think of many times when there have been very small gaps between winners and runners-up in Formula One - and so often people only remember winners and not the runners up. In years to come, how many will remember how close Liverpool came? Although, I suspect the ex-Liverpool players on Sky, BT Sport, the BBC and in several papers will like to remind us.
  22. 10 points
  23. 10 points
    I'm gonna bite. Top 4, two finals, massive change in playing style. Absolutely a work in progress, there's been mistakes and there's been ups and downs in progress, but considering the squad we have and where we were last year, this has been a decent season. I'm maybe in the minority but I think he's had a promising start, and I'm looking forward to next season. Maybe just on a semi-final win high? I'm happy.
  24. 10 points
    UEFA worst nightmare. Four English teams contesting their showpiece finals.
  25. 10 points
    Dean

    Sarri - In or Out?

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But you have to change your mind as the facts change. So i have to ask some of the doubters - how can you persist with the same criticisms when, one by one, they've been answered, to varying degrees? here are a few: 1. Sarri stubborn on team selection: see others' stats above on RLC and CHO. Whether it was fan pressure that did it or not is irrelevant - the stubbornness argument no longer holds true. 2. We always lose when we concede first: ahem Cardiff away, Burnley at home, United away, Frankfurt away... did i miss any? ok all but one ended in draws (again, did i miss some?) but still a hell of an improvement on what was going on in our dark patch. 3. No team spirit: see 2. 4. Lack of imagination on subs: when was the last time we saw Kovacic for Barkley or vice versa (and this ties in with one)? 5. Always play worse in the second half: last two matches the exact opposite. 6. boring football - ok this is somewhat subjective, but i think it's unfair. While we have lacked consistency, there have been some great performances with top quality football - off the top of my head - Watford second half, belly of the Frankfurt game, Tottenham at home, West Ham at home, City final.... As i said, you are entitled to think Sarri is not the coach for us. But i don't think it can any longer be based on any of the above. Kudos to abramovich (not THE abramovich, or at least i don't think so) for basically acknowledging this and giving credit where due. And he may well yet be right to still be sceptical. We "ins" could easily be wrong come next season and should be ready to change our minds too. But for now - the table doesn't lie (solskjaer said so and it's hardly in his interest to say it), and there's no point rationalising it with "it's only coz man u, tottenham etc were crap". 1. they're probably not that crap (one is in CL semi); 2. so what (great even!) if they are.
  26. 10 points
    Malcolm9

    Chelsea get Top FOUR

    So Sarri has finished higher than both Klopp and Pep in his first season compared to their first seasons, this despite having a squad suited to the 352 system under Conte. Hopefully we can sign players next season and let the revival happen. The one thing we need is a team with more goalscorers, when you the look at the GD City & Liverpool have compared to the rest no wonder they are both that many points clear. As for finishing in the top 4, it's not because Arsenal & Spurs choked, as we choked many times to let them into it. In the end we scored more points and deserve our top 4 place.
  27. 10 points
    DannyVblue

    Chelsea get Top FOUR

    Get in! Back where we belong! Sarri has managed to improve on last season’s 70 points with 1 game to spare, and has also got us back into the top 4. And he’s done it with a very stale squad inherited from Conte. You’d have to say this season has now been a success and has given us a great platform to build upon. Fingers crossed that we can get this transfer ban delayed for a window. Absolutely ridiculous that Sarri has had to endure some of the criticism he’s received from some fans, especially considering it his first season at the club and in a new league. Hopefully he’ll get some credit now from those fans, but I’m already reading comments that we only made it because the we were a little bit less $hit than the rest. It doesn’t matter what the other teams have done, all that matters is that we have secured top 4. And we’ve done it with 71 points which is enough to get top 4 in most seasons. We’ve earnt it.
  28. 10 points
    Can’t give a sh*t what he said, guys a legend. Played through injury to win our only Champions League trophy. Captained us to a League title. Boasts a trophy cabinet bigger than 99% of clubs put together. Thanks for everything Gaz!
  29. 10 points
    Let's not pretend he hasn't made a huge difference to that Liverpool side. Last year Liverpool finished the season having conceded 38 goals, with two games left to play they've currently only let in 20. Liverpool have lost just once this season too having lost 5 last year. He's transformed that back line, if that's not a reason to be up for player of the year what is? I get that as Chelsea fans we don't want to praise the scousers for anything but surely we can acknowledge what a good season VVD has had for Liverpool?
  30. 10 points
    Burnley fans booing timewasting? Why, the irony is astounding!
  31. 10 points
    dkw

    Racist fanbase???

    The so called racist who abused sterling has been found not guilty after lip reading experts backed his claim that he wasn't racially abusing him. As expected the f**king vermin who jumped all over hin claiming he was 100% guilty havent said a word, no apologise from sky, collymore, levene, Lineker etc, and I'm pretty sure it will be completely ignored by the media. Meanwhile the poor sod has lost his job, season ticket and has had his address given on twitter by daily mail reporters meaning he has received disgusting, unwarranted abuse. I hope he sues every single person involved.
  32. 9 points
    RIP Mourinho

    Ruben Loftus-Cheek

    They have PERSONAL interest in it. That's fine, donate the £4m themselves personally. Pocket change for them. Keep the valuable assets safe and not having to risk them on sh*t pitches weeks before a European final.
  33. 9 points
  34. 9 points
    bisright1

    Wrong about Sarri?

    Conte is the past. That style of football worked for one year, then died on its arse. Because it wasn't sustainable and it really wasn't very pretty when we started to be found out. If we had that years Costa in this set up, we would be doing a damn site better than 73 points as well. We'd have won today comfortably, we'd have beaten United at their place. Just be f**king patient and see how we do next year and stop carping on, it's embarrassing when we consider the two teams ahead of us had worse first seasons when their "project managers" took over.
  35. 9 points
  36. 9 points
    Argo

    Sarri - In or Out?

    The desperation to knock Sarri for any little thing is worse. Some are constructive and credit where it's due but others use a ridiculously extreme cases of mental gymnastics to turn him into the villian. Take Hudson Odoi for example. At the start of the season it's "he should be atleast getting the minutes Foden does at City" soon as he can eclipses Foden's minutes it's "it's only the Europa" no doubt if he was getting the PL minutes it would be "but we don't trust him in the tournament we could win". Then he was getting the PL minutes it was "but fan pressure has forced his hand". Heck even a full England call up which led to him being one of the youngest debutants ever on the back of the minutes he got here was used as a stick to beat him with. I try to avoid the agenda route but on Sarri's case I have to wonder, not only with a section of our fanbase but the media in general aswell, Jenas's attempts to play down Sarri's role in RLC's development minutes after Ruben's TV interview stating how much Sarri has helped him improve was beyond laughable.
  37. 9 points
    dkw

    Sarri - In or Out?

    The desperation to make out we have somehow flunked our way to a possible 3rd place finish because everyone is garbage, even though we're 3rd in current form and our points are would see a usual top 4 finish us staggering, why are so many Chelsea wanting to constantly talk anything Chelsea related down. Its so f**king weird.
  38. 9 points
    Tottenham Hotspur. The only possible team that could make me want Liverpool to win the European Cup.
  39. 9 points
    The Swan

    Two Transfer Window Ban?

    There is so much pessimism on here it’s unhealthy. You would not believe that we are actually third in the league, reached one cup final and might reach another. A sense of perspective is needed, or people might view elements of our support as glory hunters. Are things really that bad? Yes, we are not where we were a few years back. But let’s keep an open mind. All things considered Sarri has had a successful first season and no doubt will have learnt a lot about the PL. Surely it can’t be all doom and gloom? People saying, we are a laughing stock and we are f***ed. I just don’t buy it. But let’s say people are right and we are really are doomed. A silver lining will be the tourists will stop coming and we will get our atmosphere back at the Bridge. But in all seriousness, we are not doomed. Chelsea are in my blood and I want them to win but sometimes people need to lighten up.
  40. 9 points
    Let me preface this by saying that I, on the whole, can't stand Liverpool. I think that the conduct of their fans (without discussing Heysel, etc.) is generally hubristic, cringeworthy, and borderline delusional. I find the bizarre hive mind and usually unwarranted entitlement to exceptionalism which surrounds the club to be both concerning and irritating. But fair f**king play to them... last night was an extraordinary achievement. It was exceptional, it was a "famous European night at Anfield"™; the theatrics and hagiographies were, for once, not pandering, but justified. For the first time in perhaps a generation, this is a Barcelona side who aren't perfectly comfortable and fluent in building slowly from the back. Klopp recognised that, and instructed his rag-tag frontline* to press, needle and harry Barca in their own half. It worked perfectly. Barca were never comfortable, created little, and after the tie was brought level, never looked like coming back. They, to a man, were comprehensively defeated, in terms of physicality, desire, ability - even their cheating was less good than Liverpool's. Did you ever think that you'd ever see a Barca side, 3-0 down in a season-defining match, revert to 4-4-2 and put 9 men behind the ball? Can you ever imagine that a Barcelona side playing Guardiola's style (or at least mimicking it) wouldn't have simply put their foot on the ball and throttled the life out of the game? Do you think that we'd ever have been permitted to forget why Guardiola considers dominating possession to be primarily a defensive measure? Valverde's drift from tradition may have added an extra element to Barca's play, however it seems like something more fundamental is ebbing away. They were truly atrocious last night, as poor as I've ever seen any Barcelona side. I can't even bring myself to be annoyed or snipe about that match - last night I witnessed something truly extraordinary. Bravo Liverpool... ...didn't do it at the Nou Camp, with ten men, and José Bosingwa at centre back though, did you? *(which consisted of, let's not forget, a player they signed from relegated Stoke, and a centre-forward voted in Ligue 1's worst team of the season a couple of years ago, who had also played 492 minutes before last night).
  41. 9 points
  42. 9 points
    I assume Sarri is concerned about RLC‘s fitness. We all know he’s got back problems and has to be used carefully. That’s a respectable result and the second half performance was one of our better ones for a while. I’ll leave it for others to explain why we should be miserable.
  43. 9 points
    If Liverpool win the league and Spurs win the Champions League Pep should go to prison.
  44. 9 points
    Desailly123

    Sarri - In or Out?

    Napoli fans protesting for the return of Maurizio Sarri as they wish to sack Carlo Ancelotti. It's almost like they know how good Sarri is if he's given time and trust. But our fans will beg for Ancelotti and then when we're in the same position next season wonder what the problem is. So sick of this, why can't we actually give managers chances? City kept Pellegrini and Pep, Liverpool kept Klopp, Spurs kept Pochettino. None of them would have lasted at Chelsea. Rome wasn't built in a day, and whether people like it or not, our team isn't good and so cannot compete for titles at the minute. In fact of the 4 key aspects of the club; players, manager, board and owner. I actually think Sarri is the one with the least issues. But yet our fans will expect Sarri to turn Kovacic into a 10 goal a season midfielder, Willian and Pedro into good wingers and Alonso into prime Cole. Are Sarri's lineups poor? Yes. But it seems in recent years we as fans don't understand that managers have bad spells. When Pep lost 4-0 to Everton in his first season, we'd have campaigned for him to get the sack and brought in someone like Simeone.
  45. 9 points
    Scott Harris

    Sarri - In or Out?

    My biggest concern with Sarri is that he rarely out smarts managers with tactics. The only time I have really seen him do it is against City early in the season, and I'm starting to think it was a fluke at this point. You see coaches adjust their tactics to get a result against us, but Sarri never actually seems to respond to that, he just sticks to his original set up with the same like for like substitutions. Burnley in the second half last night was the perfect example of this. Sean Dyche decided to go ultra defensive in that second half, but we just stuck to the original plan, right until the full time whistle was blown. Sarri didn't adjust our tactics one bit to force the result last night and it's something he has been doing all season. You could see early on in the second half that we weren't going to score unless Sarri changed something, but he didn't do it, he never does.
  46. 8 points
    Boston Blue

    USA bound for friendly !!!

    This game was arranged directly by Roman Abramovich and Revs owner Bob Kraft to raise awareness and benefit charities that are important to them. Is using a term like "Stupid Russian woman" really necessary? I came here looking for more mature intelligent discussion than this sort of thing that permeates Twitter. I'd be interested to get the opinions of any player, agent, or official from another club about whether they share your opinion about her. I assure you that Roman does not consider her to be "stupid" since he trusts her to run his football club.
  47. 8 points
    I wonder if any other team has ever done what Wolves have done this season. They beat all 4 European Finalists in one season 😄
  48. 8 points
    Well, he certainly seems up for it.
  49. 8 points
    Try not to cry, try not to cry
  50. 8 points
    Stim

    Sarri - In or Out?

    Last manager to play Kante at DM was Conte where after a 3-0 loss to Arsenal he changed to his favoured formation and Kante never played DM again. Before that, he was never played at DM either. So probably worse off. Perplexing how it's still talked about. In midfields sitting beside Drinkwater, Matic, Fabregas it's Kante who was apparently the deep lying defensive player and not the one doing the running around the midfield, the thing Kante is famous for.

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