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  1. ForeverCarefree

    Jules Kounde

    Sell 23 year old promising centre back Fikayo Tomori Sell 21 year old promising centre back Marc Guéhi Buy 22 year old promising centre back Jules Kounde
    7 points
  2. Argo

    Pre Season Competition

    All this with Bettinelli still to come. Exciting times ahead.
    5 points
  3. SydneyChelsea

    Callum Hudson-Odoi

    Some nice graphs and numbers there @Gol15 so I wanted to take a closer look. I like to look at data in context, so I wanted to compare Hudson-Odoi's data to the benchmarks in the league, as well as similar players (eg Saka, and our other wingbacks) to get an idea of what is exceptional and what is just ordinary in this league. The tl;dr summary is: Leads the team in quantity of passes/crosses but his xA accurately predicted his output, and it is quite low (0.25 assists per 90 mins) which suggests there are questions over the quality of his output. In other words, he's putting a lot of balls into the box, but the low xA suggests they aren't always in good areas for the recipient. Top attackers in the league have an xA over 0.30 per 90 mins; our closest player is Ziyech with 0.28. His numbers compare very favourably to top wingbacks/fullbacks (eg Alexander-Arnold, Cancelo) but are merely decent for wingers/attacking midfielders. As a wingback, he tends to receive the ball in space far more often, whereas as an attacking midfielder he is required to receive the ball and make plays in much tighter areas. How much do the tactical differences influence his output? GCA/SCA are very nebulous stats that attempt to quantify the 'creativity' of a player but their validity (in the data science sense) is difficult to establish, as they are based on the last two plays leading to a goal or shot. For example: If Hudson-Odoi splits the defence for Werner to cross the ball to Mount for a tap-in, all three are awarded a Goal Creating Action (GCA) If Thiago Silva passes the ball 5 yards to Jorginho, who plays a through-ball to Werner, all three are awarded a GCA This means that the stat can be useful for midfielders and attackers, but less useful if the player is a defender. It's possible that Hudson-Odoi's time at WB could majorly inflate this. The GCA/SCA graph posted merely suggests that if Hudson-Odoi is involved in a move, it's likely to lead to a goal. Without accounting for game state, or the quality of opposition, there's not a lot we can glean from this especially because of the above. The progressive carries data is interesting. This is a stat that looks at how many times the player carries the ball towards the opposition goal; again, this is heavily influenced by position and tactics. Hudson-Odoi is actually exceptional even for a fullback/wingback, and this probably shows where his tactical value to Tuchel lies. The dribbling graph is somewhat misleading as it doesn't take into account position/tactics. Statistically, defenders + midfielders will always have better dribble percentages than any attacker because they are moving the ball in a less congested, less pressed part of the field. The only out-and-out attacker who appears in the top 30 EPL players for dribbling % is Bernardo Silva! That explains the lopsided nature of the graph. Hudson-Odoi (53.6%) still rates as pretty good for wingbacks/fullbacks in the EPL, but pales in comparison to Reece James (75%!) - that suggests we can't read too much into this once we account for position/role. The data confirms his potential but we all know that. It's telling that some of his statistics are 'inflated' by position - if we were to look at it really harshly, the data might suggest that he could be an average winger, but a world-class wingback. However, that really just relegates him to being football's next Victor Moses, not the electric winger we all want him to be, and assumes he has no room to improve. I think this season is where he has to really push himself to demonstrate he can be a top-tier attacking midfielder because otherwise his career will be a footnote as an 'interesting tactical solution'.
    5 points
  4. evissy

    Pre Season Competition

    Maybe we just sell Tammy to Arsenal. Broja takes his spot. This assessment was made after 12 minutes of exhibition football
    4 points
  5. 4 points
  6. Gol15

    Erling Haaland

    Where there is smoke there is fire, too many things line up just like the 2012-2021 CL titles. It can't be that on the same day both clubs release videos of their player, it can't be that after winning the CL we signed E. Hazard and that now we are linked with E. Haaland, all the things can't be just...a coincidence...
    4 points
  7. Gol15

    Erling Haaland

    4 points
  8. evissy

    Pre Season Competition

    Ruben is back. So lovely to see.
    3 points
  9. Its all gone downhill since Drinkwater went off 😉
    3 points
  10. Why. Its a training game.
    3 points
  11. I will be surprised if Drinkwater stays with the squad this season but he deserves a chance to show what he can do in pre-season, just like all the others. With a new manager he effectively has a fresh slate.
    3 points
  12. 3 points
  13. keep this up callum! give Tommy Two-CHELS selection headaches. Love watching Callum when he is direct
    3 points
  14. I see the fans are getting their pre-season practice in for a season of negativity.
    3 points
  15. That kit is not going to grow on me. It is terrible.
    3 points
  16. chiefBlueCFC

    Jules Kounde

    Really makes me sad to have to say goodbye to Zouma and his infectious smile. He's been one of my favorite players at Chelsea since he came from France. BUT hearing good things about Kounde... honestly don't know much about him.
    3 points
  17. axman2526

    Jules Kounde

    I hear ya, certainly no Alex Sandro.
    3 points
  18. TomCFC85

    Jules Kounde

    If it happens, cool. If not, I'm not really arsed.
    3 points
  19. It's going to be hilarious when we announce we've signed Harry Kane out of nowhere.
    3 points
  20. Better than Donnarumma imo
    3 points
  21. Mikel was an avid reader and struck up a friendship away from the forum with @PloKoon13
    2 points
  22. Gol15

    Erling Haaland

    "Cross by Mount, Haaland with the headaaaah, Chelsea with the lead"
    2 points
  23. it is preseason for everyone. commentators are a little rusty clearly
    2 points
  24. Scott

    Pre Season Competition

    But no mention of socks.
    2 points
  25. 2 points
  26. Turner scores!
    2 points
  27. Broja looks a lot more suited to this system than Tammy.
    2 points
  28. That's usually my method on approving or disapproving players we're rumoured to sign I want to keep Baba Rahman even more now, king of the assist!
    2 points
  29. champions of europe we know what we are
    2 points
  30. dude chill out
    2 points
  31. If I see someone come out in the 25 I’ll lose my mind hahaha!
    2 points
  32. Chalobah cheekily taking the number 26 😂
    2 points
  33. evissy

    Pre Season Competition

    I like the new kit. Sorry lads, I like it.
    2 points
  34. 🤣 Respect our captain! (It's a captain armband on Alonso's arm, right?) Who would've thought we'd live to see this day!
    2 points
  35. Should have yellow socks like in 1970
    2 points
  36. Amputechture

    Tammy Abraham

    Maybe we do have a replacement lined up that we just haven't been made aware of. How many of us discussed the possibility of signing Koundé prior to a few hours ago?
    2 points
  37. SydneyChelsea

    Jules Kounde

    He's definitely top class in that RCB role but I worry we are amassing players best suited to a 3atb formation. Given that Tuchel historically puts Ranieri to shame for tinkering, is it wise to lock him into a squad suited to just one formation?
    2 points
  38. RIP Mourinho

    Callum Hudson-Odoi

    Had chance to look back through your other posts on this thread. To me, it seems like you have something against him due to the contract he has. Making several comments about how he'll just sit back and keep accepting his £120k a week. Seems like he's getting the Sterling/Rashford treatment of being a high earning black male that many take issue with. Doesn't seem to be as much outcry against Pulisic earning more and putting in even worse performances. Such a pity. I'm sure you'll just reply with plenty of exclamation marks and what if arguments though.
    2 points
  39. This in a nutshell will be how it ends. Haaland himself has just completely denounced the transfer in an interview; not a chance he'd be double-facing Dortmund by saying what he is saying. The club wouldn't allow it if they knew he was going. Can we please just close this f**king thread because, to be honest, it's like a yo-yo. He isn't signing for Chelsea. End of.
    2 points
  40. -Rhod Gilbert voice- HERE IT IS! THE SIGNING OF THE SUMMER! Oh I can not wait to watch him pick his nose on the bench for 38 games. We were linked with Haaland; we were linked with Rice; Jeff Bezos and Richard Branson flew to space; but nothing compares to this. Signing of the century. -on a side note, good luck to him, I'd love to doss around for £40k a week and get paid to stay fit.-
    2 points
  41. Whoopee, I'm going to wet my pants with excitement.
    2 points
  42. DarkMata

    Erling Haaland

    It can't be all coincidence Too many things are evident You tell me you're an unbeliever Spiritualist? Well, me I'm neither But wouldn't you like to know the truth? Of what's out there, to have the proof? And find out just which side he's on Where would he end up at Dortmund or he'll be here?
    2 points
  43. 2 points
  44. Wot mate?
    2 points
  45. Scott Harris

    Tammy Abraham

    I really thought our players underachieved at times last season. The Champions League was pretty much faultless, but in the domestic competitions, I thought the players didn't reach the highs they should have reached. This group shouldn't have been involved in a top 4 scrap. We should at minimum have pulled away like United did and we should never have allowed Liverpool to catch back up and overtake us.
    1 point
  46. Valerie

    Pre Season Competition

    Excellent observation on black boots by the commentator
    1 point
  47. Im waiting on Ross the Boss of pre season to score a couple here in the 2nd half
    1 point
  48. https://www.chelseafc.com/en/chelsea-tv-extras/live-events-listings
    1 point
  49. thebluekid

    Erling Haaland

    Axman has been right all along… NO CHANCE!!!!! (although the fact we just plucked Kounde out of thin air with absolutely nothing on it makes you realise how Ninja-esque our dealings are) Nope. He’s not coming.
    1 point
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