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  1. BCFC22

    Tammy Abraham

    Good evening all you Blues fans Hope you don't mind but Im a Bristol City fan visiting your forum as I thought I'd take the time to pass on some comments about ( your )Tammy Abraham Im no starry eyed teenager but a a mid 50s , bit of a grumpy , Bristol City follower ,and someone who is losing love for the game I've lived and breathed for 50yrs Ironically the Blues are a team I followed closely for a number of years after you signed my childhood Chris Garland in early 70s, I even have a slightly scratched prized 'Blue is the colour' 45' !! I had a 10year spell scouting for a number of League Clubs and spend periods of games even now watching individual players rather than the game / following the ball so like to think I can provide a reasonable assessment of a player. So Tammy Abraham... First and foremost , alongside just about virtually every City fan I know , we are extremely grateful to Chelsea that have been fortunate enough to loan Tammy this season. If we avoid relegation it will be largely off the back of this lads young shoulders. Without him we would have been dead and buried weeks ago Im not a close follower of Premiership Football (Seems a million miles away from where we are) , particularly in respect of watching games in the flesh, and so I'm not in a educated position to say whether Tammy is likely to break through at his home club. As a top four club , who sign players of the quality of Hazzard , Costa etc I fully understand how and why it's always going to be ridiculously tough to break into such a quality side Ive seen all but two of our games this season and increasingly been watching Tammy and his development in his first taste of senior football. Tammys goal return as a standalone stat is indeed impressive but I can assure you doesn't IMHO come close to reflecting his ability or contribution The Championship , is a tough place to make an impact , especially at his age, and He has scored 22 goals this season in a very poor side in turmoil. He's scored those goals , in spite of extremely poor service and support , not because of decent or even reasonable service and support. He has been deployed for virtually the whole of the season as a lone striker with an overweight and unfit Lee Tomlin deployed as a 10 to support him, which he doesn't , save for a single game in front of Sky Cameras !!! As a result Tammy has been a isolated figure up top with poor support and a service normally thrown in his general direction and often somewhere around his throat. Centre halves in the Championship tend to be physical, often with some premiership experience and I'd say are probably more physical (as they can get away with a bit more in Championship !) and this lad has in truth, been battered most of the season from two centre halves in opposition sides , as I said often in a losing cause with dreadful support and Service. From the first minute he has appeared for us , does this lad lose faith or become demoralised - Not a bit , on a dozen or so occasions this season I've Sen him clattered and go or stay down in obvious pain but the lad gets treatment , gets up, and shakes himself down , time after time , game after game .... fantastic Every single game the lad comes off the pitch having left absolutely everything on it - fantastic to see, noticed, and appreciated by suppporters - the standard response to our (regular) defeats has been 'Tammy , Tammy ....Abraham' ringing round the ground , just that , always that , which sort of says everything Hes a talented lad no doubt, good first touch , with decent service can hold the ball up well and link play, and a willing runner in the channels.His finishing is pretty damned good, not perfect but he has the skill of finding space in the box and reading the game to be in the right place to poach goals - lovely to see a poacher, but he's a whole lot more than that and has shown when on the rare occasions he's clever enough and good enough to make the most of any decent service. He's not the polished gem yet but has developed even with us and has got to grips with the physicality and pace of First Team football week by week In my 50 years of following my club , as some of you will have , I've seen hundreds and hundreds of players and over a hundred loanees In all those years Tammy comes a very close second to Andy Cole in the obvious and significant impact he's had at our club over all those years As good as Andy Cole , close but not quite , but Cole was 21 when he came to us and Tammy has another two years before you could make a fair comparison - In two years time Tammy will be up there with a 21 yr old Andy Cole from what I have seen. I won't try and tell you anymore about your player whose career I will follow closely - I have no doubt that he will go on to forge a good career in the Premier League , hopefully in a Chelsea shirt and I'm confident that he will represent his country, possibly as a mainstay in a few years time So a massive Thankyou for the privilege of having this lad at Ashton Gate this season And finally and most importantly Ive started to fall out of love with the modern game and the modern footballer , full of ego and only interested in £££ , but this lad is a complete breath of fresh air in absolutely everything , about his commitment , humility , attitude , desire - truly awesome The way he conducts himself both on and off the pitch has been a complete joy as has witnessing his obvious and deep desire to play well and to achieve results His interaction with supporters is a joy and he has become admired and idolised amongst our fanabse and will walk our player and young player of the year and rightly so Embarrassingly his desire , commitment and obvious pain when the final whistle blows and we have been beaten is far in excess of every single one of our own players ( At Brentford on Saturday he mouthed 'Sorry' to our away following !!!! as he left the pitch after another defeat, despite having played HIS heart out for 90 mins ploughing a lone furrow up front again - when do you ever see that from a modern player !!) I have some connections at Bristol City and reports of this lad confirm everything I've witnessed, humble, extremely hard working, always has a smile on his face, eager to learn and improve ..... tick tick tick This lad has Id suggest a World Class attitude , whatever his ability is eventually assessed to be and I , as a football fan hope the lad goes on to have a fantastic career at the highest level and reaps the rewards that would bring .... because you know what..... this kid deserves everything he gets I thought you may like a third part view of the lad from someone whose seen lots of him this season and watched him closely in all aspects If he gets the chance at Stamford Bridge please get behind this lad as he is a gem , certainly attitude wise and will give everything for the shirt , that I can promise you He is a complete credit To Chelsea Football Club, to the academy and the staff that work there Most of all he's a credit to his parents , and most of all to himself - So nice to say that about a young modern footballer I will be really sad to see this lad go back to you in May as he's helped me keep some faith in modern day footballers Good luck for the rest of the season - undoubtedly another title possibly a double is on its way :) Love Conte - Think you are in for some years of sustained success !!!
    41 points
  2. Boyne

    Our New Stadium

    Thanks. Sorry for the delay in posting other comments about last night but was in a meeting in the Foreign Office. If I've missed anything from the comments below or I realise that something is wrong i'll add or correct. I think Carshalton Blue is going tonight. Would be grateful to see what he or anyone else who goes thinks and if they hear anything to the contrary. Sorry that comments take up a lot of space but wanted to write down as much as possible. Interesting times. Apologies if stuff below has already been covered, haven't read through all the posts. I went to the Bridge last night for the meeting with the consultants about the redevelopment about ground. It was not only Chelsea fans at the meeting but also local residents with no affiliation with the club. From what I could gather a large number people had attended during the day. It is expected that the redevelopment will take three years. Prior to the work starting there will be a couple of years of planning, approvals etc so if work started now the earliest the new Bridge will be completed will be 2020. Having been involved in a number of office moves and refurbishments over the years I know how long the planning can take. A lot of planning has already taken place and from what we told by one of the consultants that from discussions which have been held with the council and most local residents and businesses are content with the plans. On Monday evening the consultants had a meeting with representatives from the council. Obviously not everyone will be content but it is going to be difficult to please everyone. Last night I heard a resident who lives on the Fulham Road and not from the East Stand complain about the noise from the East Stand and in particular the air-conditioning units. It was pointed out to her that the walls of the new stands will thicker to cushion the noise. On a match day there will always be noise. Given that we’re only play games for less than 10% of the year noise and disruption will be minimal. As for noise and disruption during the re-building there are rules in place about when works can take place. Roman has had several meetings with the consultants and architects and they have highlighted to him the risks etc of the project and he has told them to press on. I think that is a good sign and shows his commitment to the club not only in time but in money. From speaking to one of the consultants it became clear that they did not want to make plans public until they had enough information to give out and have plans in place. To me that indicates they are a long way down the planning route. The Memorial Wall will remain which is excellent news. The remains of the Shed Wall will also remain as it will not get in the way of the re-development. We were told that it will also act as a barrier for those houses between the ground and the Fulham Road. We were told by one consultant that there will be no area for standing in the new ground. That does not come as a complete surprise; however, speaking to another consultant later it is possible that the lower tier of the new Shed End could be built to allow it to be converted into standing. Something to look out for. There will be three tiers in each stand and away fans will be located in the corner of the Shed End near the East Stand i.e. where they are at the moment. The height of the new stadium will be the same as the current one; that is to ensure that views from surrounding buildings are not blocked. Apparently a resident has said that their view of Richmond Park will be spoilt if the height of the stadium is increased. Not sure how that will be the case given that Stamford Bridge is the tallest building in the area. Also building higher will block out more sunlight; one of the concerns of the residents of the Oswald Stoll Home when the new West Stand was built in the nineties. I think it is only right and proper that we cater for our service veterans. As the new Bridge cannot be any higher, the builders will dig down to allow for the third tier. The builders will dig down four metres. Someone on here asked (sorry I can’t remember who) about what was being built at the East Stand and over the railway line. It will be a walkway. There will also be a walkway from the Underground Station to the Matthew Harding Upper. The walkways are to make access and egress easier. The new Stadium will be solely used for Chelsea matches i.e. there will be no other sports played there (remember the ground was used for American Football matches in the nineties) and nor will it be used for concerts: Under the Bridge will go. As for where we play when we move out of Stamford Bridge, Wembley is looking the favourite. When asked that Spurs could have first refusal on Wembley the consultant replied “money talks.” As for prices of tickets when we move back no decision has been made yet. With the increased capacity there will be more seats available for members. At the moment there are only 8,000 seats available to members. Tickets may following the move back to the Bridge be given to residents. There will also be more areas for wheel-chair users and access and egress will be easier. There was a notice at the presentation which stated the average age of Chelsea fans is 50, the oldest of top flight clubs. Hopefully, with the increased capacity there will be an opportunity to reduce prices for youngsters and families.
    37 points
  3. Thank you every one. Worst year of my life and I walked away from all of you. When I returned I appreciated that you didn't question, just allowed me to slip back in. This joy is less than you deserve but I am sure you will settle for it. I nearly checked out for ever but am glad I didn't - love this moment, love those who care, love those who take the time to put you first when you needed it and take damn good care. Tonight we smile. Never forget how good it feels.
    31 points
  4. Neilando

    Our New Stadium

    Hi. Here is a first *rough* colour render. I've so many things to fix on this image, but thought I'd show you what progress has been made.
    29 points
  5. Once again player power wins over common sense. Thank you Jose you truly are the special one!!
    28 points
  6. Chelsea FC - Saving English Football since 2021
    28 points
  7. Hi guys. Hope you're all well. Don't we all love West Ham a little bit more? Or should I say, dislike them a little bit less? Erm, yes I think we do. Anyway, on the occasion of that brilliant victory last night, I thought I would write some thoughts on Antonio Conte's management this term. For me, he's passed every single test with flying colours, so far. Obviously there's still five very important matches still to be played and I hope this post isn't premature, but I thought I'd put these thoughts down anyway, as I'm feeling lucky. The first thing we have to remember is that he only joined us after the Euros. In other words, he started later than everyone else. Furthermore, this was his first time outside Italy, in a tough league, a new language, etc etc. It's easy to forget this in light of how well he's done. Mourinho had managed 6 seasons in England prior to this one, this is Pochettino's fourth season in England, Klopp had had time to adjust to England last season and Guardiola had a whole summer to focus on his new job, plus an unlimited budget. And then there's Wenger....... When you look at Arsenal, their fans often complain about their players. They say their signings aren't good enough, the likes of Mustafi, Xhaka etc. They complain about Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ramsay, Ozil, Giroud, Bellerin, Coquelin, Mertesacker, Monreal, Gibbs etc etc. They complain about ALL their players, apart from maybe one or two. The problem it strikes me is not the players but the manager and this is where Conte comes in. Conte gets the best out of his players whereas others patently don't. We're top of the league with a back three of David Luiz, Gary Cahill and Azpilicueta, with Azpilicueta as a right-sided CB and Gary Cahill as the left-sided one. This back three have played every single Premiership game together since Luiz came into the team. Luiz, remember, was mocked upon his return. Cahill will never be considered an elite player. Azpilicueta is hardly the tall, strong prototype for CBs up and down the Premiership. It's an unlikely combination, to put it mildly. Furthermore, we all know Conte had his heart set on other defenders in August, but it hardly mattered, because this guy knows how to get the best out of what he's got. Look at Luiz. He's been outstanding this season. Even his fiercest critic would admit that. We all knew he had ability but did he have defensive discipline? Conte has given him that discipline. Luiz likes to get involved in the game, to run upfield, to carry the ball, to go chasing the ball, to run out of position. We all know this. Conte had to get inside his head. He had to change his game completely. In a way, he had to take the fun out of it. He had to say to Luiz, "Look, I know you enjoy playing the game a certain way, but I want you to play another way, I want you to enjoy defending, I want you to enjoy being the leader at the back, the guy who hangs back, I want you to enjoy stopping, heading and clearing and tackling and blocking, I want you to enjoy that". Look at the transformation. When Luiz went down against Tottenham at Wembley, when Alli stamped on him, how did you feel? I bet you all had your heart in your mouth. Luiz has become a key player. Enormous credit must go to the manager, remember this was a player Mourinho couldn't wait to get rid of. From the moment Mourinho arrived he let it be leaked that he was open to offers for Luiz and Mata. Those were two players he deemed a luxury. Nobody's calling Luiz a luxury now. Let's move to Cahill. I've never been a massive fan. This has undoubtedly been his most impressive season. Remember the Arsenal defeat and how poor he was? That followed poor performances at Swansea and also Leicester in the LC. His confidence was shot he looked a liability. Unbelievably, Conte changed the system, kept Cahill in the team and moved him out of position. Cahill is bad enough with his right foot let alone his left. He is as poor with his left foot as anybody you've seen, yet he's been immaculate since switching to the left, been a real important cog in the machine. He was missing against Tottenham yet we hardly missed him because Ake came in. I read these boards prior to the next game against Southampton and everybody was saying Ake should keep his place. Not Conte. In his pre-match press conference he said Cahill was coming back, because, and I quote, "Cahill is a player with a big heart". Imagine how Cahill felt, hearing that. Cahill came back in the team and scored the vital goal before half-time, a header with a big heart. Brilliant management. He made Cahill feel that little bit bigger, that little bit stronger, that little bit more important. Remember Conte was also a limited player. A limited player with a big heart. This guy doesn't need a team chock-full of superstars. Talking of that game at Wembley. Remember seeing the team-sheet before the game? No Hazard no Costa no Fabregas? Where was the wit and invention and goals going to come from? Didn't Conte understand how important this game was, against Tottenham? I remember reading the match thread before the game, let's not pretend we were all calm about things. For me, this was Conte's most inspired and impressive move this season, and not only because he was able to bring on the big-hitters after an hour and win the game. More, it was his treatment of Costa and I was surprised nobody commented on it. Conte had a problem with Costa, a massive problem. He needed to drop him, we all knew that. The guy just wasn't performing, the guy didn't appear to have his heart in it. Every player is permitted the odd bad game especially if they've been so pivotal in propelling you up the league, but if it carries on you have a problem, not just because they're playing badly but also because it creates a credibility problem with the rest of the squad. You're supposed to pick the team on merit, right? How do you justify continually picking somebody who's forgotten how to play? Furthermore, we were in a bit of a pickle going into Wembley. We had lost to Palace and there was THAT performance at Old Trafford, where we didn't turn up for whatever reason. The trouble was, Costa is a problem player, he's high maintenance, to put it mildly. If you drop him, particularly for a showpiece game, his pride will be pricked, you may lose the player completely, he may become a disruptive influence, you have to tread with caution because you might have an even bigger problem on your hands............ What did Conte do? He dropped Costa AND he dropped Hazard, our best player, our superstar, our game-breaker, our magic man, against Tottenham in a potentially title-defining game, at Wembley in a semi-final. This would have massaged Costa's ego. This would have told Costa, you and Hazard are my main men, I'm leaving my big-hitters out of this game because I need you more against Southampton, because you're too important, because I can always rely on you from the bench. Instead of injuring Costa's pride he pumped it up. He made him feel bigger instead of smaller, and look, he came back with a bang against Southampton. Expert management. Incredible management in fact. He dropped him and he made him feel bigger. Now that's a feat. Management is all about problem-solving. Conte had a problem and he solved it. Remember Mourinho trying to drop Costa at WHL and remember how that worked out? Costa threw his bib, he sulked on the touchline and Mourinho's authority was diminished. You have to play these things right. You have to manage the man, and Conte has been managing the man all season, the very difficult man. I bet he can't wait to get shot of him this summer but in the meantime he has to manage his squad, he has to win football matches, and that's where Conte excels, he doesn't get into personality politics, he doesn't get sidetracked he doesn't focus on the noise, he stays focused and he never loses sight of his task. He always seems to see the bigger picture rather than getting embroiled in the trivial. He's not interested, he has a title to win. Remember when the sh*t hit the fan with Costa, back in the winter, when this offer came in from China? Again, Conte overcame that potential crisis with little fuss. We lost our record at WHL, Costa argued with Pedro on the pitch, news came in about a bust-up behind the scenes, Costa was out of the next game at Leicester, supposedly with a back injury. This had the potential to derail our season. We lose to Leicester and the vultures will really be circling. What happened? We dispatched of Leicester with ease, and we showed great unity. From a position of potential weakness we emerged stronger, and you could see how pumped up the players were and how important the win was. Nobody was going to be allowed to be distracted from the cause. Again at Wembley, we had a potential problem, Tottenham were on an incredible run, we had started to wobble, our lead had been reduced, Tottenham were feeling invincible, the media were doing their best to ramp it up. We did what we had to do. We showed our mettle and our quality. Don't underestimate the importance of that victory. Conte was brave, with his team selection. He was vindicated, as he's invariably been this season. Alonso and Moses. These guys wouldn't get into a bottom half team at the start of the season. They've been brilliant. They've both been key. When we sign a player I usually go visit the selling club's online forums to see what their fans think about it. Fans are usually the best barometer because they see the player week-in week-out. The Fiorentina fans were laughing, when we signed Alonso. They couldn't believe the fee. It's not that they thought he was bad, but they didn't see anything special. They said he was a liability defensively with a tendency to switch off. They said he lacked pace, etc etc. It's fair to say I was underwhelmed with the signing. I couldn't see the sense in it, particularly when we had Ake on our books and whom we could have kept. I assumed we signed Alonso because we lacked left-footers and we needed cover, both in the CB and FB departments, and that was it. Then he played, when we switched to a back three, and he looked out of his depth, he was torn to ribbons on a couple of occasions, it didn't look good. Conte knew what he was doing however. Alonso has great stamina, he's great positionally, he's an elegant footballer rather than an exceptional one but Conte has got inside his head and got the best out of him. When was the last time he was seriously troubled on his flank? Man City away? That was a long time ago now. He has become a serious footballer under Conte. Furthermore, as the season has progressed and the pressure mounted, players like Alonso and Moses are in unchartered territory. How will they cope with the pressure will their performances falter? You'd never know they've never been in this position before and again for that Conte deserves enormous credit. He's stayed calm and he's allowed his players to stay calm. If you'd seen our line-up before the season started, the first choice XI we'd be going with this season, with Luiz and Cahill and Alonso and Moses and Matic and Pedro, you'd have thought top four was a pipe dream. It's worth remembering that when we reflect on Conte's performance. Unlike Wenger, this guy gets the best out of his performers. This guy knows how to manage them. There was a time recently when I started to get a little worried. Performances had dipped. Luiz, Moses, Matic, Pedro, Costa etc, they weren't playing quite as well. It's one thing getting your players to perform but when they lose form you have to perform another task. That's where your management is really tested. I look at those players now and they're all back on track. Last season, once players lost their form, Jose had no idea how to get it back. Conte's management appears to be a bit more subtle. Conte has asserted himself where he's needed to. When he's needed to, such as against Mourinho in the FA Cup, he bared his teeth. He showed he's going to be nobody's pushover, he's not going to allow anybody to take liberties. He hasn't gone looking for trouble however, he hasn't invited controversy, nor gone seeking attention. He's a breath of fresh air. Let's not underestimate the task he had. He's brought the good times back, he's brought back the feel-good factor. Watching Chelsea is a delight again. Our best players are allowed to play, he doesn't clip their wings, yet we're organised, we're well-drilled and we fight. He's got the balance right and that's why we're where we are in the league. Don't forget this is the most competitive Premiership there's ever been, with more clubs with greater resources and more high-profile managers. We were not supposed to be in the mix. You talk to fans of other clubs. Ask them what they think of Conte. He's the best thing that's happened to this club in a very long while. This season he's provided an object lesson in the art of management. The way he's handled Terry the way he's handled Fabregas. Willian was our POTY last season yet he's invariably on the bench. Yet it's all happened with little fuss, with everybody committed to the cause. Sometimes a manager comes in and you think, "This job's too big for him". I have never had that feeling with Conte. Conte does things his way but he doesn't make a song and dance about it. I hope Roman appreciates the quality of his work and I hope he rewards him this summer, in the form of purchasing the players he wants. Whoever Conte asks for he should get because he's done enough to earn our trust. This guy is a far better manager than I ever imagined. This season has surpassed all our expectations by a million miles. We are incredibly lucky. Courtois, Hazard, Costa, Pedro, Matic, Cahill. Think about their performances last season. There is no comparison. Conte has restored their belief and their confidence and we're reaping the reward. Ultimately as a manager you live or die by your decisions. You decide who to back and who to discard, you decide what to say and what to do, you pick the side and the formation. I can't think of too many bad decisions, can you? Not bad, considering how many decisions you have to make in a season. We're already a good team. Imagine if Conte gets the players he wants. I think we all know there's room for improvement, and that's what makes his performance this season so impressive. Lastly, I'll end this mammoth post with a quote from Conte's press conference yesterday. Typically in his press conferences he preaches the value of hard work, good behaviour and so on. He stresses the importance of remaining focused and together. He reminds players to think about the team rather than themselves. Yesterday he expanded a little bit and it was quite unexpected. I usually like Conte because he's so serious, especially when we lose. On the touchline he's full of passion but away from the pitch you get the feeling he's a deep thinker and that's what I want from a Chelsea coach. Yesterday we got a little glimpse into his world. He was asked if he could continue keeping Fabregas happy if he can't offer him a starting berth. Here's his response....... "I'd like to underline a concept. I mustn't keep happy the player. We must win. You can be happy and arrive tenth and to play every game. If you are unhappy in this season that you are fighting for the title or to win the FA Cup? I don't like when I listen this type of question. I don't like. You speak about happy and I speak to win, and to work very hard. I know that to work very hard is not simple. The player is not always happy to work very hard but I think that my target is to put in the head of my players a winning mentality, and a winning mentality doesn't exist to keep the players happy because it's very difficult to keep twenty players happy, above all because I don't want to, I don't want this, I don't want this, I want players ready to fight and to try to put themselves in the team and to try to win together. Then if you are happy or unhappy I don't care for me." I don't care either Antonio. You just keep doing what you're doing. You're doing a f**king incredible job.
    27 points
  8. Let me explain betting even further Bobby. If you bet £10 pounds on Arsenal to win the league - you will lose £10
    26 points
  9. My God the irony.....
    26 points
  10. if he had shot and hit Mignolet he would have been slated. He did exactly the right thing.
    25 points
  11. Loved that scene of Jorginho on his knees thinking about all the support he got from @Gol15 that powered him through the match
    24 points
  12. Went to the exhibition today. First thing to say is it was very well done, very well-attended, and the staff were incredibly helpful and informative. There were free refreshments on offer and it was all very slick, and very friendly. The next thing to say is this is VERY exciting, far more exciting than we realise I think. This is going to be an incredible stadium, by the sounds of it, and the general vibe from the staff (who were all very close to the project or close to Roman) is one of optimism, determination, and a real sense of awe at what is being planned. They've seen more than us, don't forget, and they have a better idea of what could potentially happen, and there is a real buzz amongst them surrounding this. I was pleasantly surprised and came away with a real belief this will happen, such is the vibe I was getting. So, questions .. 1. The flats will need to be purchased, including the one that belongs to Bates. They are in discussions with all the owners, including Bates. Compulsory Purchase Orders are being ruled out for the time being, because the area doesn't need regeneration, therefore they will be harder to obtain. Besides, they don't think it will come to that, they think they will find a way. 2. Building over the railway line behind the East and North Stands. Network Rail and Transport for London seem happy with the proposals, so far. 3. There will be two new entrances/exits. One direct to the tube station and one directly on to Stamford Bridge (the bridge itself) on the Fulham Road. The one from the tube takes you directly to the North Stand and the one from the bridge takes you directly to the East Stand (South East corner), above ground level. This is the viaduct you see in the drawings. 4. Once inside the stadium you can walk all the way round, i.e. if you're sitting in the North, you can enter the stadium from the South. 5. The South Stand will see the biggest increase in capacity, it will double more or less. The North Stand is the only stand which will get taller to any meaningful degree. It will also see a significant capacity increase, as will the East, while the West will more or less stay the same, in terms of capacity. 6. 60k seems to be the limit, unless safe standing is introduced. They may be able to go slightly above 60k, and that will be looked at, if possible. 7. It's a complete rebuild. Every stand gets demolished. Don't forget your hard hats. 8. The megastore will be underground and it will be MEGA. Entrance will be near where the smaller store is currently, on the right as you walk in the main entrance. 9. There will be no "ring of silence", as there is at Wembley and the Emirates for instance. The middle tiers will not be occupied solely by corporates. 10. North Stands and South stands will be corporate-free zones. 11. Capacity will not be reduced for CL games. Happy days. 12. The pitch will become slightly bigger, a metre longer and three quarters of a metre wider. Currently it is on the small size for PL. It will become standard size. 13. There will be more space between the bylines and the stands behind the goal. 5 metres I think, so players can run on to the ball without fear of crashing into the hoardings and ending up in the crowd. This is not an issue with the touchlines as the gap is sufficient but the stands behind the goals are a bit too close. The gap is still going to be on the small size because of sight lines with people in the lower rows. 14. No properties or sites outside of the current site have been purchased, or need to be. 15. In terms of timeframe, once they have received feedback from this exhibition, they will produce more detailed plans and a model around September time. There will be further consultation at that point and a planning application submitted this year, all being well. Planning should take a year, and then there is another year of more stuff, and then hopefully building can start, maybe as soon as 2017 but 2018 should be a more realistic target. After that it's a 2 or 3 year build (I can't remember). We could be playing in it as soon as 2020. 16. Season tickets holders will sit in the equivalent seats in the new ground. More younger, disabled, and local fans will be accommodated. 17. In terms of the council, they have been brilliant apparently. The club is not dealing with them, they look after football matters. Roman has separated this project from the club in that sense, they are one company and there is another company that handles the stadium project, and the relationship with the council is very good, thus far. 18. The brickwork will be London Stock. You can google it. 19. Apparently the most pressing concern raised at the exhibition by Chelsea fans is that the stadium might resemble the Emirates, i.e. a soulless bowl. Thankfully this will not be the case. 20. Funding. Roman pays for everything. We will not be getting any help, unlike other clubs, firstly because the area doesn't require regeneration and secondly because when Roman comes to the table everybody knows he's minted. If I think of anything else I'll post it.
    24 points
  13. Reece James just got home and emptied his pockets Winners Medal Car Keys Raheem Sterling 🤪
    23 points
  14. Best midfield trios of the modern era.
    23 points
  15. Not sure if Tuchel is really on "friendly terms" with Klopp or not. But I can tell you that I don't like Klopp at all. In Germany we have the nickname "camel" for him because his teeth are very similar when Klopp is in his usual outburst of rage.
    23 points
  16. dansubrosa

    Super Frank Lampard

    Super Frankie!
    23 points
  17. About three weeks ago we reached a point in the season when every man and his blog was giving their rankings, best XIs and players of the season. Naturally a lot of those featured players from other teams, so could be dismissed as irrelevant. We at The Shed End like to take a little time to ruminate on such things, so finally, after a liquor-fuelled hiatus of a few years, I can bring you the Shed End's Player of the Season Awards. Any newbies may be unaware that in addition to being the forum's most hilarious, second-most handsome and eighteenth-drunkest poster, I also maintain an Excel spreadsheet which tallies all votes cast in our per-match MOTM threads. All the punch cards have now been processed, and I now finally have the numbers from this most topsy-turvy of seasons. Even with a dataset as small as ours, a season with a change in management (and a range of contrasts from 'quite good but flawed', to 'totally inept', to 'still kind of inept but solid', to 'apparently the best team in Europe') offers us an opportunity for introspection. One useful factor is the comparability in fixture quantity - Lampard managed 29 games, and Tuchel 30. Pleasingly enough, each of the 28 players who featured for us this season picked up at least 1 vote, with the exception of poor Loftus-Cheek's unfortunate cameo vs Brighton in the season opener. Some introductory stats: Total number of games: 59 Total number of votes cast: 1772 Average number of votes per game: 30.03 (23.59 under Lampard, 32.27 under Tuchel... bunch of glory hunters.) Game with highest number of votes cast: Man City (N CL): 61 Game with lowest number of votes cast: Tottenham (A LC); Rennes (A CL): 12 As a result of the average vote numbers being higher than during previous seasons, I've opted for only two measuring sticks: total number of MOTM awards, followed by the overall number of individual votes as a tie-breaker. The largely vestigial 'points' system has been discarded as a result of players no longer being able to win awards when only picking up two or three votes. The lowest individual winning total was Zouma with 4 (vs Tottenham in the League Cup), however this was really an anomaly. It also meant that joke/tactical votes had less of an effect, although I did notice that Jorginho's eight votes under Lampard came in seven separate matches. No comment... I don't think anyone will be too surprised by individual players performing drastically better or worse following the switch between managers. Even the perenially underappreciated (in MOTM threads at least) Azpilicueta picked up a bit: So here's what the table looked like under Lampard: And here's what it looked like under Tuchel: You will probably note, as a result of his finishing first in both halves of the season that: Mason Mount is The Shed End's 2020/21 Player of the Season. While I agree with the result (which is quite possibly a first for this), I did feel a little bad for Kanté, who only missed out by 16 votes and also strolled the awards for both CL semi-finals as well as the final. So via most MOTM awards: 1) Mount (8 awards) 1) Kanté (8 awards) 3) James (5 awards) 4) Mendy (4 awards) Via total votes: 1) Mount (257 votes) 2) Kanté (241 votes) 3) Havertz (120 votes) 4) James (111 votes) Other stats (feel free to stop reading at any point): Premier League: Mount leads the way with 6 awards, followed by Kanté with 4, then James, Mendy, Pulisic and Chilwell all with 3. Interestingly we only won 2 of the games Mount won the award for - including the capitulation at the King Power and the ludicrous 3-3 against West Brom. Champions League: Unsurprisingly Kanté was ahead in this one with 4 (all of them knockout games including both semis and the final). Mount won 2 (also both knockouts), then 1 each for James, Mendy, Ziyech, Silva, Jorginho, Gilmour and Giroud. I'm sure you can guess which game Giroud won his award for... FA/Cup League Cup: I'm throwing these two together as our League Cup campaign was only two games long. Zouma and Abraham got 2 each; Havertz, James, Hudson-Odoi and Azpilicueta (the semi against Man City) all got one each. So Mount and Kanté are both streets ahead of the rest of the squad. Even Kanté in second has more than double the number of votes of Havertz in third. The awards were more spread out than they normally would be: 20 different players won at least one MOTM award this season. Whether this is a result of us playing such a high number of games or as a result of the necessary rotation in such a compressed season I don't know. This is the full table if anybody is interested: Thanks for reading!
    22 points
  18. I didn't want to post this,but I'm chipper after the win. I have diabetes and kidney cancer please don't feel sorry for me.I am in good shape. Look after yourselves - and I mean folk who are thinking it will never happen to me.I was a super athlete so take care friends.
    22 points
  19. Dave has completed it all. Champions League = (2020/2021) Premier League = (2014/2015); (2016/2017) Europa League = (2012/2013); (2018/2019) FA Cup = (2017/2018) League Cup = (2014/2015)
    22 points
  20. Christensen was absolutely colossal coming on!! It’s hard enough getting up to game speed in a normal game but a CL final, to come in and fit in that well and play that well is incredible.
    22 points
  21. TomCFC85

    Random Rumours

    In the Shed End Forums, his account was raised. The rumour mill was where he spent most of his days Chilling out, bullsh*tting out, lying it's a wrap And making up accusations, full of crap When a couple of users, saw right through his disguise Started calling out his obvious lies Got in one little fight, And his mum, you bet Said "Timmy, you should stay off the internet"
    22 points
  22. g3.7

    Eden Hazard

    well bobby it isn't that simple because it is a matter of opinion not a matter of fact. for example, I don't agree that he had a run of poor games; liverpool away he didn't get into the game often and second half against hull he struggled but otherwise I haven't seen too much to criticise. more fundamentally, I don't think that a player deserves to be criticised for every poor game or mistake they make- IMO that is immature and unrealistic. and that is a general view- when you're talking about a player who has done it for the club on countless occasions over the years, lead the club to a title and has been a key player in a side that is unexpectedly top of the league in february, never mind by 9 points, I think that player shouldn't be questioned severely (not necessarily by you in fairness) because he goes a couple weeks without giving an 8/10 performance. and then when you remember the player is eden hazard, who is an attacking player, and an attacking player who doesn't lean on an outstanding physical attribute to be effective, and who plays nearly every game and takes more physical punishment than any other player in europe, then perhaps even more slack could be cut for him? I can only imagine what people would be saying in this thread if he put in a performance anything like alexis sanchez' on saturday.
    22 points
  23. Congrats to all on here, If we don't add Kane/Haaland and Grealish etc types of players in the summer I think next years title could be going your way also, Incredible to see the turnaround and also sums up how the other lot down the road are so acceptant of mediocrity. Their version of progress is baby steps, Your version of progress is only going and beating a Pep juggernaut three times, Winning a CL, Getting to a FA Cup final etc. I also think Tuchel might finally be the 'one' for you lot, What I mean by that is he might stick around for longer than 2/3 years as he has the authority of Jose, Less baggage than him but more clout/respect from Abramovich than Lampard/Di Matteo/AVB etc.
    21 points
  24. This is a 20 year old who has played 114 times for Dortmund, yet people have decided he is a Commercial purchase, nothing special, overrated before he's even played a single minute for us. Unbelievable.
    21 points
  25. Davey Baby

    Antonio Rudiger

    For me the most interesting aspect of this transfer is what it tells us about the team Conte is trying to build. Last season he brought in Batshuayi, Alonso, Luiz and Kante. This season it seems he's going to build the team more in his own image, with quick, athletic, raw, pacy and strong players, all of a certain age, that magic spot in your mid 20s when you're yet to hit your peak, when you still have a lot to prove and you're motivated, when you should in theory be giving your team the best years of your life. Rudiger, like Lukaku, has just turned 24. Bakayoko will be 23 next month, Sandro is 26. They're all tall and they're all imposing athletic creatures. Nobody's going to bully us, nobody's going to dominate us in the air and nobody's going to outpace us. I know there is some debate over Lukaku but these are all technical players too, these are all top-level performers, who perform on the international stage and, with the exception of Lukaku, the CL stage. I think many are underestimating Rudiger on this thread. This guy was a full German international at the age of 20 and he remains a regular in the German squad. Considering he's just turned 24, considering he had a bad injury last summer, considering Germany are the world champions, 16 caps isn't bad. Those saying he isn't an upgrade on Ake need to consider this guy has nearly 200 club appearances to his name, whereas Ake has just over 50. That's not to say Ake won't turn into a top player, he's clearly a good player and he's doing very well for his age, even though it's worth considering he's only 2 years younger than Rudiger. One thing's for sure, Ake will never have Rudiger's pace nor his height, although he does match him for versatility. That's the other interesting thing about this transfer, the fact Rudiger gives us options in a number of positions, as he can play anywhere along the defence. I'm sure Conte already knows where he ideally wants him to play however, be that at FB, WB or CB. It's possible Conte sticks with the 3 man defence, plays Rudiger on the right of the 3, and plays Azpilicueta as the RWB instead of Moses. Either way, it seems Conte has identified an area of the team that needs strengthening, and he's identified Rudiger as the man to strengthen it. Rudiger may not be a beast, in the mould of a Koulibaly or whoever, he may not be the world's best defender, but he's still a top player playing at the top level, with bags of experience for one so young. We'll be challenging for the CL as well as the PL this season and with that in mind, Rudiger's presence gives us a far better chance than Ake's presence would have done, and that's why Conte's made a pragmatic choice. Truth is, it's hard for a young player to break through at Chelsea, as we all know. Kids have to play or their development is stifled. Conte has to decide if he can give that kid enough minutes. He decided the answer was no in Ake's case, and sad as it may be, that made it the right decision to sell him. He's had his loans, he's 22, this was the time for the manager to make his decision and he made it. He's seen the player and he's made his judgement. Chelsea play at a very high level and the manager's no mug. As a youngster you're going to have to be very special indeed to break through. Rudiger simply plays at a higher level. That may not be the case in a season or two but that's the case now, and Ake will be forever stifled if he stays at Chelsea, so it was the best thing for all parties. Don't forget Christensen's back too, and if he's as good as they say he is, he's going to need minutes as well, otherwise we'll lose him. Then there's Zouma, who may or may not go out on loan. His chances have definitely diminished with Rudiger's arrival and maybe it's time for him to consider his future too. Either way we have to make room to accomodate these players and that means we have to make sacrifices too. The manager gets paid the big bucks to make these calls. The top managers get these calls right more often than not. That's what makes them top managers. Sure, Rudiger may not have been Conte's first choice but maybe his first choice wasn't available, or maybe the club weren't prepared to be held to ransom, which is fair enough. You never know, maybe another CB is going to come in. Maybe Conte has plans to play Rudiger at WB. Either way I think he represents good value, I think he'll make us stronger, I think he'll develop under Conte, and I think he's likely to prove a good signing. Edit: I'm happy with this piece of business and I think you should all be too.
    21 points
  26. Hes completely changed the formation, tactics, starting position, job and attitude of almost our entire team from last season, of course hes had a massive impact. You were wrong about him, you still are wrong about him and will obviously always be wrong about him as you cant bring yourself to admit hes doing incredibly well. Pretty pathetic in truth.
    21 points
  27. PloKoon13

    Jose Mourinho thread

    Incredibly upsetting moment. We all (including José himself) were incredibly invested in the ten-year legacy plan; to have it masterminded by a club legend, and one who was seemingly immune to failure offered us a promise of magnificent and lasting glory. To see that promise in complete ruin is extremely painful, but nonetheless I will always be grateful to José and the massive amount he has done for the club; for me he will forever be a club legend. His first spell was magic and took us to heights we could never previously have dreamed of. I'm far from a veteran Chelsea fan, and the worst I've ever really experienced of us was the bottom half of the Premier League, but in my childhood I never dreamed that I'd see us win the league. To see it happen so soon, so spectacularly, and two years in a row was a time of unthinkable joy. His second spell started beautifully; I remember well how good it felt to have one of our own, arguably the most talented manager in the world, return home after the horrible experience of instability and infighting that was the 2012/13 season under Benitez. I didn't necessarily have expectations of us romping home with the title (although in the spring we were mighty close), but the feel-good factor was a blissful break from the previous year; add to that the great moments we had: Torres' last minute winner against City, Eto'o's hat trick against Man Utd, tactically embarrassing City away, blitzing Tottenham 4-0, the legendary 6-0 humiliation of Arsenal, and hilariously ruining Steven Gerrard's legacy in the 2-0 at Anfield. Then of course came the title win, an absolute romp. We [ostensibly] fixed all the holes in the first XI quickly and effectively, and then strolled to the title. The first few months were sensational, we were tearing teams apart. We even beat Tottenham in the League Cup Final! Another magnificent contribution from José to immortal Chelsea legend. But despite the pain of this decision, and the wonderful memories, I think this was the right move, for both parties. It was painful to watch José flailing around desperately, casting blame on everyone from the players to the medical staff to the summer transfers. It really was unpleasant to see him in such a position of weakness, the target of every schadenfreude-loving journalist and opposition fan (the latter being more understandable). I want to see him go on and succeed (ideally abroad). He thrives entirely on winning; I don't want to see him fail, I certainly don't want to see him fail here, and it was becoming increasingly clear that he had no ideas or strategies to stop what was becoming increasingly inevitable failure at the end of the season. I kept the faith for as long as I could justify, but after the Leicester game the evidence overwhelmed me and I really gave up all hope of José being able to turn this around. Previously I suspected a fitness issue, but that would have been resolved by now. Such a long-term, widespread and dramatic downturn in form (to the point that we are not only underperforming, but we are below a total shambles of a Newcastle side in the table) suggests something is horribly wrong behind the scenes. It may well not be something as dramatic as a full-on factional war or mutiny in the dressing room, but at some point José completely lost the ability to instruct and motivate these players (and let's face it, our squad is at absolute worst the third-best in the league), and that is ultimately his job; thus the responsibility for our failure this season lies at his door. No other manager would have been given this much time or this much leniency - Robbie D was sacked having won the Champions League six months previously, when we were third and four points off the top of the league! (With a worse squad no less) As a result I don't particularly understand the fury being directed at the board - they were as patient as they possibly could have been, suggesting they have learned their lesson of the past decade, but unfortunately José's position had become untenable and this is the right move for us and him. The board have done the right thing; if they appoint Hiddink (i.e. recognising that the fans might want a familiar face associated with good memories rather than a lame duck like Ramos), it suggests a certain understanding of the fondness we have for José and that we are the ones who matter. To be honest I have no doubt in my mind that any future slumps and missteps will see the return of the recriminations and pining for José we used to see before he returned, but I don't think that will be particularly helpful. I also hope whoever is appointed as José's temporary and permanent successor (assuming they are not the same person) receives the full support of the fans. Kicking off and creating a negative atmosphere at the Bridge will help us achieve nothing. The disgraceful behaviour the club showed during Robbie/Benitez fiasco warranted a reaction - this is not that. It is incredibly sad, I will never forget what José has done and won for us. I wish him a return to his usual stamping ground of the very elite of world football as soon as humanly possible. Thank you José!
    21 points
  28. Man Utd fan here, just wanted to offer my congratulations. I was there in Moscow and felt for a few god awful minutes during that shoot out what the chelsea fans must of felt on the journey home and i wouldnt have wished that on anyone. To lose the biggest game of the lot in those cruelest of circumstances. So last night i was sincerely hoping Chelsea would do the business for all of you lot that suffered in Moscow, you derserved your moment last night, there is no greater feeling in the world than watching your team win the European cup, its the absolute pinnacle, especially to see it first hand in the stadium. Droga, cole, lampard all fully deserve to have european cup winners on their CV's as well, would have been a travesty for those lads to never win it. As everyone has alluded too, i think it was written that Chelsea would win it this year. Just as in 2008, with the 50 year munich anniversary it seemed to be written we would win it. Enjoy every second of today and the week, as a football fan it doesnt get any sweeter.
    21 points
  29. What a refree though.. amazing performance . that is what elite level refereeing is.. not the crap we get served every other weekend..
    20 points
  30. When I was a kid growing up, me and my mates used to play in the playground and dream of creating a strategic vision and sustainable commercial approach for the European football economic model....
    20 points
  31. Silva, Jorignho and Mount celebrating is my favourite moment of the night 😁
    20 points
  32. "Again looking shakey with Christensen at the centre of the back 3 with no physical presence." You must have watched another game, then. He won nearly all his duels incl. headers, was comfy on and off the ball and made one or two elegant long passes upfield. The confirmation bias on here is unbelievable tbf.
    20 points
  33. abramovich

    Big Pete is BACK

    Don't care that he's been with Arsenal last few years, he's always been and will remain CFC legend. The man won everything at the club, put his body on the line, and was pure class on and off the pitch.
    20 points
  34. At the risk of upsetting yorkley and having my entire post dismissed as just "stuff" and having him bare his arse* at me, I'll wage into the debate about KDB. When a young player breaks into the first team, if they're to have any chance at all, you have to be a bit patient. I remember Lampard at the age of 23 coming to Chelsea. He wasn't that good. I remember people saying he was sh*t. I also remember people calling for patience. You can't rush to a judgement with new players, particularly young ones, and Lampard wasn't even that young. What Lampard did have was a nurturing manager, and that's where he got lucky. By the time Jose came along he was already a fabulous player, as was JT. Jose may have taken their game up a notch but had he arrived at Chelsea three or four years earlier there's no way JT or Lampard would have even been at the club, and if they were, their development would have been stifled, and they'd never have become the same players. KDB was bought by Chelsea with an immense reputation. He was already a Belgian international. He had inspired Genk to the title, as well as other domestic cups. He was getting goals and assists galore, and he was a teenager. This was a prodigious talent, and in those days, we had enough clout to get him. He spent the next year and a half on loan, with a year in Germany, where he scored 10 goals in 30 games. Not bad for a 21 year old kid, playing his first season in a major league. Not a bad goal tally, considering he wasn't a striker, he either played central midfield or on the flank. I remember saying at the time, on this forum, that he reminded me of David Beckham, and I predicted he would be even better. I'm not blowing my own trumpet. It was obvious he had quality. We knew he had quality. That's why we went out and spent good money on a teenager. So, a year and a half after signing, he finally gets his chance, and what a debut, man of the match in a resounding win, Sky giving him the award. I remember that game vividly. I had waited a long time to see him in a blue shirt and I was very excited to see him develop. It was clear he had massive potential. I also remember that game for another reason. We were 2-0 up at HT, playing some lovely free-flowing stuff and the second half promised to be fun, except, sadly, Jose had different ideas. "Fun" wasn't what Jose did. The football was clearly too free-flowing. The players were playing with a carefree abandon. At half-time he rectified it, and the second half turned into a non-event, but I'm sure Jose was happy with it, because the players were no longer ignoring his instructions. There was the warning sign right there. Jose put the handbrake on at half-time and ordered the players to conform to his structure, and, having played Hull off the park in the first half, he succeeded in sucking all the life out of the game. I remember being very disappointed. Tellingly, KDB didn't feature in the next match. He had impressed everybody watching but not the manager, and therein lies the story. KDB got a few games after that, I'm not sure how many but not many, and then he was out, because he wasn't doing what Jose wanted him to do tactically, or maybe because he simply wasn't interested. I have a hunch (which is backed up by a reliable source) that KDB felt that Jose was too intent on making him a better defensive player, rather than a better offensive one. KDB wanted a little creative licence, a little freedom on the park, and in that sense it soon became apparent he had the wrong manager. KDB wasn't obeying his instructions to the letter and Jose lost patience, rather quickly, and took him out the side. KDB was given scant opportunities after that, the odd game here or there, but Jose felt this wasn't a player who hung on his every word and worshipped the ground he walked on, so he was sold. It was a pitiful lack of judgement, but KDB had got his judgement bang on. Jose was happy. He could turn Oscar into Lee Cattermole instead. There are those that say he deserved to be sold, because he did nothing in a blue shirt. Laughable. He. Wasn't. Given. A. Chance. Same with Salah under Mourinho. Not. Given. A. Chance. A handful of games does not constitute a chance, especially when you're young and foreign, and especially when you're new to a big league and a big club, with all the pressure that brings. Some managers want to build, some want to nurture, some are only thinking of the short-term and go into a sulk when they can't have ready-made stars to fill every position. Jose was one of the latter. He wasn't interested if a player was going to be good tomorrow, and KDB had shown enough promise hitherto in his career to suggest he was going to be very good tomorrow, otherwise I don't think Wolfsburg were going to smash their transfer record for him. They knew something we didn't. They knew he was f**king good. KDB and Salah played a handful of times for Chelsea, and yet we have fans saying they deserved to be sold. How could they possibly know? They hadn't seen them for any meaningful period. They'd watched them for about ten minutes. The problem wasn't the players. It transpires it was the manager, giving them too many messages, messing with their heads, telling them to track back instead of forward. Either way, people shouldn't be too quick to judge. Give a player a little time, before you make your assessment. You never know they just might surprise you. Look at Lampard. So KDB went to Germany, and immediately won POTY in the Bundesliga, just like he'd won the award for best young player when we'd loaned him to Germany previously. Fancy that. He was good before he joined us, and good immediately after. Maybe he was good when he was with us. He just wasn't given a chance. He could have stayed at Chelsea of course and picked up his wages but he took a step down because he wanted to play and he knew he was good enough. Sadly his manager at Chelsea wasn't so astute. It was the best career move the player ever made. Of course many Chelsea fans felt we got good money when we sold him, and they were happy to see him go. I wasn't one of them, but there you go, we all get some things right and some things wrong. Since he's left however, it's been amusing watching people trying to convince themselves he isn't that good. He was great in Germany but it was only Germany. He looked good for City but what had he won for them? He never turned up in big games apparently. Strange, because all I ever saw was a great player, a top player, who was only ever getting better. * It's a great arse. Let's make no bones about it.
    20 points
  35. Zeta

    Tiémoué Bakayoko

    Monaco: "We want £40m" Marina: "£35m" Monaco: "Not good enough. 38m at the least Marina: "£35m" Monaco: *Sigh*.. "Ok, really the lowest we'll go is 36m. Pay it and he's yours." Marina: "£35m" Monaco: "f**k it! Fine! £35m!" Marina: "£30m"
    20 points
  36. Applauding Boro fans after shaking all the opposition hands. Just a class act of a man. Thankful to have him
    20 points
  37. Scott

    Jose Mourinho thread

    The king is gone but he's not forgotten
    20 points
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