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    chef reacted to Davey Baby in Antonio Conte - Now Officially Manager   
    Hi guys. Hope you're all well. Don't we all love West Ham a little bit more? Or should I say, dislike them a little bit less? Erm, yes I think we do.
     
    Anyway, on the occasion of that brilliant victory last night, I thought I would write some thoughts on Antonio Conte's management this term. For me, he's passed every single test with flying colours, so far. Obviously there's still five very important matches still to be played and I hope this post isn't premature, but I thought I'd put these thoughts down anyway, as I'm feeling lucky.
     
    The first thing we have to remember is that he only joined us after the Euros. In other words, he started later than everyone else. Furthermore, this was his first time outside Italy, in a tough league, a new language, etc etc. It's easy to forget this in light of how well he's done. Mourinho had managed 6 seasons in England prior to this one, this is Pochettino's fourth season in England, Klopp had had time to adjust to England last season and Guardiola had a whole summer to focus on his new job, plus an unlimited budget. And then there's Wenger.......
     
    When you look at Arsenal, their fans often complain about their players. They say their signings aren't good enough, the likes of Mustafi, Xhaka etc.  They complain about Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ramsay, Ozil, Giroud, Bellerin, Coquelin, Mertesacker, Monreal, Gibbs etc etc.  They complain about ALL their players, apart from maybe one or two. The problem it strikes me is not the players but the manager and this is where Conte comes in. Conte gets the best out of his players whereas others patently don't. We're top of the league with a back three of David Luiz, Gary Cahill and Azpilicueta, with Azpilicueta as a right-sided CB and Gary Cahill as the left-sided one. This back three have played every single Premiership game together since Luiz came into the team. Luiz, remember, was mocked upon his return. Cahill will never be considered an elite player. Azpilicueta is hardly the tall, strong prototype for CBs up and down the Premiership. It's an unlikely combination, to put it mildly. Furthermore, we all know Conte had his heart set on other defenders in August, but it hardly mattered, because this guy knows how to get the best out of what he's got.
     
    Look at Luiz. He's been outstanding this season. Even his fiercest critic would admit that. We all knew he had ability but did he have defensive discipline? Conte has given him that discipline. Luiz likes to get involved in the game, to run upfield, to carry the ball, to go chasing the ball, to run out of position. We all know this. Conte had to get inside his head. He had to change his game completely. In a way, he had to take the fun out of it. He had to say to Luiz, "Look, I know you enjoy playing the game a certain way, but I want you to play another way, I want you to enjoy defending, I want you to enjoy being the leader at the back, the guy who hangs back, I want you to enjoy stopping, heading and clearing and tackling and blocking, I want you to enjoy that". Look at the transformation. When Luiz went down against Tottenham at Wembley, when Alli stamped on him, how did you feel? I bet you all had your heart in your mouth. Luiz has become a key player. Enormous credit must go to the manager, remember this was a player Mourinho couldn't wait to get rid of. From the moment Mourinho arrived he let it be leaked that he was open to offers for Luiz and Mata. Those were two players he deemed a luxury. Nobody's calling Luiz a luxury now.
     
    Let's move to Cahill. I've never been a massive fan. This has undoubtedly been his most impressive season. Remember the Arsenal defeat and how poor he was? That followed poor performances at Swansea and also Leicester in the LC. His confidence was shot he looked a liability. Unbelievably, Conte changed the system, kept Cahill in the team and moved him out of position. Cahill is bad enough with his right foot let alone his left. He is as poor with his left foot as anybody you've seen, yet he's been immaculate since switching to the left, been a real important cog in the machine. He was missing against Tottenham yet we hardly missed him because Ake came in. I read these boards prior to the next game against Southampton and everybody was saying Ake should keep his place. Not Conte. In his pre-match press conference he said Cahill was coming back, because, and I quote, "Cahill is a player with a big heart". Imagine how Cahill felt, hearing that. Cahill came back in the team and scored the vital goal before half-time, a header with a big heart. Brilliant management. He made Cahill feel that little bit bigger, that little bit stronger, that little bit more important. Remember Conte was also a limited player. A limited player with a big heart. This guy doesn't need a team chock-full of superstars.
     
    Talking of that game at Wembley. Remember seeing the team-sheet before the game? No Hazard no Costa no Fabregas? Where was the wit and invention and goals going to come from? Didn't Conte understand how important this game was, against Tottenham? I remember reading the match thread before the game, let's not pretend we were all calm about things. For me, this was Conte's most inspired and impressive move this season, and not only because he was able to bring on the big-hitters after an hour and win the game. More, it was his treatment of Costa and I was surprised nobody commented on it. Conte had a problem with Costa, a massive problem. He needed to drop him, we all knew that. The guy just wasn't performing, the guy didn't appear to have his heart in it. Every player is permitted the odd bad game especially if they've been so pivotal in propelling you up the league, but if it carries on you have a problem, not just because they're playing badly but also because it creates a credibility problem with the rest of the squad. You're supposed to pick the team on merit, right? How do you justify continually picking somebody who's forgotten how to play? Furthermore, we were in a bit of a pickle going into Wembley. We had lost to Palace and there was THAT performance at Old Trafford, where we didn't turn up for whatever reason. The trouble was, Costa is a problem player, he's high maintenance, to put it mildly. If you drop him, particularly for a showpiece game, his pride will be pricked, you may lose the player completely, he may become a disruptive influence, you have to tread with caution because you might have an even bigger problem on your hands............
     
    What did Conte do? He dropped Costa AND he dropped Hazard, our best player, our superstar, our game-breaker, our magic man, against Tottenham in a potentially title-defining game, at Wembley in a semi-final. This would have massaged Costa's ego. This would have told Costa, you and Hazard are my main men, I'm leaving my big-hitters out of this game because I need you more against Southampton, because you're too important, because I can always rely on you from the bench. Instead of injuring Costa's pride he pumped it up. He made him feel bigger instead of smaller, and look, he came back with a bang against Southampton. Expert management. Incredible management in fact. He dropped him and he made him feel bigger. Now that's a feat.
     
    Management is all about problem-solving. Conte had a problem and he solved it. Remember Mourinho trying to drop Costa at WHL and remember how that worked out? Costa threw his bib, he sulked on the touchline and Mourinho's authority was diminished. You have to play these things right. You have to manage the man, and Conte has been managing the man all season, the very difficult man. I bet he can't wait to get shot of him this summer but in the meantime he has to manage his squad, he has to win football matches, and that's where Conte excels, he doesn't get into personality politics, he doesn't get sidetracked he doesn't focus on the noise, he stays focused and he never loses sight of his task. He always seems to see the bigger picture rather than getting embroiled in the trivial. He's not interested, he has a title to win.
     
    Remember when the sh*t hit the fan with Costa, back in the winter, when this offer came in from China? Again, Conte overcame that potential crisis with little fuss. We lost our record at WHL, Costa argued with Pedro on the pitch, news came in about a bust-up behind the scenes, Costa was out of the next game at Leicester, supposedly with a back injury. This had the potential to derail our season. We lose to Leicester and the vultures will really be circling. What happened? We dispatched of Leicester with ease, and we showed great unity. From a position of potential weakness we emerged stronger, and you could see how pumped up the players were and how important the win was. Nobody was going to be allowed to be distracted from the cause.
     
    Again at Wembley, we had a potential problem, Tottenham were on an incredible run, we had started to wobble, our lead had been reduced, Tottenham were feeling invincible, the media were doing their best to ramp it up. We did what we had to do. We showed our mettle and our quality. Don't underestimate the importance of that victory. Conte was brave, with his team selection. He was vindicated, as he's invariably been this season.
     
    Alonso and Moses. These guys wouldn't get into a bottom half team at the start of the season. They've been brilliant. They've both been key. When we sign a player I usually go visit the selling club's online forums to see what their fans think about it. Fans are usually the best barometer because they see the player week-in week-out. The Fiorentina fans were laughing, when we signed Alonso. They couldn't believe the fee. It's not that they thought he was bad, but they didn't see anything special. They said he was a liability defensively with a tendency to switch off. They said he lacked pace, etc etc. It's fair to say I was underwhelmed with the signing. I couldn't see the sense in it, particularly when we had Ake on our books and whom we could have kept. I assumed we signed Alonso because we lacked left-footers and we needed cover, both in the CB and FB departments, and that was it. Then he played, when we switched to a back three, and he looked out of his depth, he was torn to ribbons on a couple of occasions, it didn't look good. Conte knew what he was doing however. Alonso has great stamina, he's great positionally, he's an elegant footballer rather than an exceptional one but Conte has got inside his head and got the best out of him. When was the last time he was seriously troubled on his flank? Man City away? That was a long time ago now. He has become a serious footballer under Conte. Furthermore, as the season has progressed and the pressure mounted, players like Alonso and Moses are in unchartered territory. How will they cope with the pressure will their performances falter? You'd never know they've never been in this position before and again for that Conte deserves enormous credit. He's stayed calm and he's allowed his players to stay calm.
     
    If you'd seen our line-up before the season started, the first choice XI we'd be going with this season, with Luiz and Cahill and Alonso and Moses and Matic and Pedro, you'd have thought top four was a pipe dream. It's worth remembering that when we reflect on Conte's performance. Unlike Wenger, this guy gets the best out of his performers. This guy knows how to manage them.
     
    There was a time recently when I started to get a little worried. Performances had dipped. Luiz, Moses, Matic, Pedro, Costa etc, they weren't playing quite as well. It's one thing getting your players to perform but when they lose form you have to perform another task. That's where your management is really tested. I look at those players now and they're all back on track. Last season, once players lost their form, Jose had no idea how to get it back. Conte's management appears to be a bit more subtle.
     
    Conte has asserted himself where he's needed to. When he's needed to, such as against Mourinho in the FA Cup, he bared his teeth. He showed he's going to be nobody's pushover, he's not going to allow anybody to take liberties. He hasn't gone looking for trouble however, he hasn't invited controversy, nor gone seeking attention. He's a breath of fresh air. Let's not underestimate the task he had. He's brought the good times back, he's brought back the feel-good factor. Watching Chelsea is a delight again. Our best players are allowed to play, he doesn't clip their wings, yet we're organised, we're well-drilled and we fight. He's got the balance right and that's why we're where we are in the league. Don't forget this is the most competitive Premiership there's ever been, with more clubs with greater resources and more high-profile managers.  We were not supposed to be in the mix.
     
    You talk to fans of other clubs. Ask them what they think of Conte. He's the best thing that's happened to this club in a very long while. This season he's provided an object lesson in the art of management. The way he's handled Terry the way he's handled Fabregas. Willian was our POTY last season yet he's invariably on the bench. Yet it's all happened with little fuss, with everybody committed to the cause. Sometimes a manager comes in and you think, "This job's too big for him". I have never had that feeling with Conte. Conte does things his way but he doesn't make a song and dance about it. I hope Roman appreciates the quality of his work and I hope he rewards him this summer, in the form of purchasing the players he wants. Whoever Conte asks for he should get because he's done enough to earn our trust. This guy is a far better manager than I ever imagined. This season has surpassed all our expectations by a million miles. We are incredibly lucky.
     
    Courtois, Hazard, Costa, Pedro, Matic, Cahill. Think about their performances last season. There is no comparison. Conte has restored their belief and their confidence and we're reaping the reward. Ultimately as a manager you live or die by your decisions. You decide who to back and who to discard, you decide what to say and what to do, you pick the side and the formation. I can't think of too many bad decisions, can you? Not bad, considering how many decisions you have to make in a season. 
     
    We're already a good team. Imagine if Conte gets the players he wants. I think we all know there's room for improvement, and that's what makes his performance this season so impressive.
     
    Lastly, I'll end this mammoth post with a quote from Conte's press conference yesterday. Typically in his press conferences he preaches the value of hard work, good behaviour and so on. He stresses the importance of remaining focused and together. He reminds players to think about the team rather than themselves. Yesterday he expanded a little bit and it was quite unexpected. I usually like Conte because he's so serious, especially when we lose. On the touchline he's full of passion but away from the pitch you get the feeling he's a deep thinker and that's what I want from a Chelsea coach. Yesterday we got a little glimpse into his world. He was asked if he could continue keeping Fabregas happy if he can't offer him a starting berth. Here's his response.......
     
    "I'd like to underline a concept. I mustn't keep happy the player. We must win. You can be happy and arrive tenth and to play every game. If you are unhappy in this season that you are fighting for the title or to win the FA Cup? I don't like when I listen this type of question. I don't like. You speak about happy and I speak to win, and to work very hard. I know that to work very hard is not simple. The player is not always happy to work very hard but I think that my target is to put in the head of my players a winning mentality, and a winning mentality doesn't exist to keep the players happy because it's very difficult to keep twenty players happy, above all because I don't want to, I don't want this, I don't want this, I want players ready to fight and to try to put themselves in the team and to try to win together. Then if you are happy or unhappy I don't care for me."
     
    I don't care either Antonio. You just keep doing what you're doing. You're doing a f**king incredible job.
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    chef reacted to BCFC22 in Tammy Abraham   
    Eve all
    Three little stories about Tammy in last 10 days
    Brentford (a) Ran his heart out and gave everything in a pitiful team performance - at the end walks over to the away support and mouths 'Sorry' despite personally having nothing to be sorry about
    Preston (a) The vast majority of the side , not him , down tools on our clueless head coach and capitulate - At the end the Head Coach and players head straight off down the tunnel - Not TA - despite running himself into the ground goes over to away fans and quietly enters the away section and spends some time with , and speaks to , some of the youngsters who idolise him
    In the week picks up a knock and according to Head Coach is virtually in tears thinking he may miss a vital game today
    Today - great performance leading the line , another two goals and his usual beaming smile
     
    This lad is a total class act as a professional footballer , already , both in his ability and as I keep saying as a man / character, all at 19 yrs old
    Incredible goal return for a 19'yr old in his first taste of (tough) Senior Football in a disfunctional side
    (remember he's missed a few games due to an injury too )
    So much respect for him
    Will be gutted to see him go
    Hes too good for us that's for sure !!! 
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    chef reacted to undertow in Jose Mourinho thread   
    What? You find this disturbing?

    What's wrong with you?
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    chef reacted to moi in Jose Mourinho thread   
    I see you are a new signing with 17 posts to your name.  So, unless you are a banned person rejoining under a new name, what would you know about how hard the mods here work at keeping a balance, gently guiding people towards a more acceptable way of communicating before banning them?
     
    Please wait till you have been on here for longer than 5 minutes before making wildly erroneous judgments on the mods of this forum.
    I am also fed up with seeing complaints like this from people who have not used the report system to bring an offensive post to the attention of a mod.  They all have full time jobs and families to look after.  They can't possibly read every single post on the whole site in order to make sure that nobody is offended. If you ARE offended, please report the post that has offended you.
     
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    chef reacted to Zola in Jose Mourinho thread   
    Ivanov87 is having a week off..
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    chef reacted to dkw in Jose Mourinho thread   
    Jose doing what Jose does best, winning trophies.
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    chef reacted to coco in Marcos Alonso   
    We could buy another LWB who is a better player, but he could be a worse player for the team, less capable of following Conte' plans to a T.
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    chef reacted to dkw in Diego "the guv'nor" Costa   
    Yeah, he's doing nothing for us at all....
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    chef reacted to TheChelseaBlues in Random Rumours   
    The summer brought us Alonso, Luiz, and the best DM in the league Kante. How anyone could call the poor is beyond me. 
    We didn't buy anyone in January but we did make 60m off a bench player, doubled our money on Bamford who was never going to make it here any time soon or at all and recalled a few younger players to integrate in the team. Not too shabby
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    chef reacted to TheChelseaBlues in Random Rumours   
    I wouldn't call the past two under Conte poor at all. What are you smoking?
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    chef reacted to Boyne in Our New Stadium   
    Just a reminder that it is the CPO AGM next Friday (27 January). I'll be going with some of the people I go to the games with. Will report back. Anyone else on here who is attending?
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    chef got a reaction from Zola in Our New Stadium   
    No, next. They can do the first years work while we are still playing at the Bridge.
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    chef reacted to Zeta in Michy Batshuayi to Chelsea   
    Well now it all makes sense.. Conte is deeply and passionately in love with Michy and doesn't let him on the pitch in case he gets hurt.
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    chef reacted to Davey Baby in Jose Mourinho thread   
    Second time around he wasn't half the manager he was first time around, even though we won the title and the LC, and we won it playing good football for the first half of the season until he reverted to type and we basically parked the bus for the remainder. His judgement was all askew, letting De Bruyne go, Mata, Luiz etc, preferring Torres to a raw Lukaku etc etc. He was allowed to do things his way. Maybe he didn't get Pogba and Stones but we tried. Remember Conte didn't get Bonucci or Nainggolan. sh*t happens. Jose is a short-sharp-shock type of manager whose methods have a short shelf life with any one single group of players. His biggest defect is that he doesn't trust individual expression, and here he differs greatly from Ferguson. He also doesn't command the same respect as Ferguson, amongst players, journalists, officialdom etc. He can't sustain it is what I'm trying to say. I was shocked second time around at how much he had regressed as a manager. First time around he was incredible, as we all know. Second time around he made poor call after poor call. The other day your lot gave your shirts to your travelling fans after a game which was a nice gesture. Jose came out immediately afterwards and said it was his idea. That's rank bad management in my book, not the idea but taking the credit for it, and the players will soon grow tired of it as they did at Real and Chelsea. Jose's third seasons at both those clubs were pretty disastrous, after incredibly successful campaigns the seasons before. Again, this tells its own story. Basically you're out of the title race but you're starting to get your act together and Jose is up to his old tricks, having subtle digs at other managers, criticising referees, praising other referees, complaining about the fixture schedule and the media etc etc. You better hope you win the title next term because that's your only chance with Jose. He just can't win it in his third term because he has a very limited repertoire of tricks, again unlike Fergsuon. He's turning your players into Jose players, you can see that. Herrera, Jones, Rojo etc, he's getting them to sweat blood to put their bodies on the line to refuse to accept defeat but you have to have more in your armoury to get players to do that over a longer period of time and Jose simply doesn't. You have to have a bit more understanding of what makes players tick, particularly creative players. This season you may win the LC and EL and you may get top 4 and next season you will be serious challengers possibly but there's still no guarantees because the Prem is now far more competitive than ever and Jose just might be up against younger, brighter managers. Anyone would take Klopp over Jose, or Conte for that matter. Sure, they may not have Jose's record but Jose's record has seriously tailed off since he left Inter, and that was 7 years ago. Still successful, yes but on the wane, no doubt about it. Interestingly, last season when we were one place off the drop zone in December, he couldn't find a way to turn our fortunes around, that's when we saw how limited his repertoire of tricks really was. Jose has changed, and not for the better in my mind. We had the best of him, first time around, but even then he was still only a short-term manager. You've now got a very pale imitation and believe me, no matter what approach your board take, it won't be long before people at Old Trafford start to tire of him. I was devastated first time he left, second time I couldn't wait for him to sling his hook.
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    chef reacted to LeicesterBoy in Welcome N’Golo Kante   
    Just came to have a little look at how you guys have taken to N'golo...as expected, I see you adore the guy. 
    The best player I've seen in a Leicester shirt by a country mile, and probably ever will see. Arguably one of the best footballers I've ever seen in my life. I can't deny that I was extremely bitter when he left for you guys, but that's all dissipated now. It really is impossible not to love him.
    You'll win a sh*tload of titles and probably a Champions League while he's here, he's that good (As i'm sure you know by now). The media big him up but I still don't think they realize how exceptional he really is.
    Good luck to you in your title ambitions, look after the little man!
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    chef reacted to ForeverCarefree in Welcome N’Golo Kante   
    £7m, over 200 appearances and he's helped us win the Premier League, European Cup, Europa League, League Cup, FA Cup and he's currently captaining the side with us sitting 6 points clear? 
    You're damn right he's on my list of best buys since Roman came to the club. 
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    chef reacted to RIP Mourinho in Diego "the guv'nor" Costa   
    Yes mate, start of 14/15 up until last weekends game. 
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    chef got a reaction from RIP Mourinho in Diego "the guv'nor" Costa   
    Great stuff mate. Is that since the start of the 2014-15 season?
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    chef reacted to RIP Mourinho in Diego "the guv'nor" Costa   
    I've had a quick look into this out of interest and this seems to be what i've found just taking into account the league:
     
    Harry Kane
    Played: 82
    Scored: 53
    Penalties taken: 12
    Penalties scored: 11
    Goals excluding penalties: 42
    Goal/game ratio: 0.51
     
    Sergio Aguero
    Played: 65
    Scored: 60
    Penalties taken: 16
    Penalties scored: 13 
    Goals excluding penalties: 47
    Goal/game ratio: 0.72
     
    Diego Costa
    Played: 69
    Scored: 44
    Penalties taken: 1
    Penalties scored: 1
    Goals excluding penalties: 43
    Goal/game ratio: 0.62
     
    Also remember to take into account the half a season Costa took off under Mourinho. Last season Aguero and Kane scored 24 and 25 goals each in comparison to Diego's 12, which will have dropped his ratio massively. 
     
    Looking at this year alone Diego scores a goal or assists 1.13 times a match, compared to Aguero's 0.83 and Kane's 0.8.
     
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    chef got a reaction from ForeverCarefree in Diego "the guv'nor" Costa   
    Would be intetesting to compare Costa, Kun and Kanes numbers since over the last 2 and a half seasons with penalties taken out.
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    chef reacted to Jezz in Jose Mourinho thread   
    Wouldn't shock me if he's bitter toward the board for sacking him and possibly bitter at the players for underperforming, but I think he was always grateful for the unwavering support that the Chelsea supporters provided to him during his two stints here.
    Of course he's going to pump up United's tyres and speak glowingly of them. He's employed by them.
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    chef reacted to goodeggs in Jose Mourinho thread   
    Jose's greatest strength as a manager was his self belief and unshakable confidence, not only in his methods but in himself. This created a 'mentality' that used to literally imprint it's self upon his players and teams,  however it now seems to have become 'twisted' and is hence leading to his downfall.
    Let me explain.
    Mourinho's sheer force of personality practically drove Porto to Champions League Glory and shortly after he arrived here as the self proclaimed "Special One" a moniker that from anyone else, especially a new manager in a new league,  would sound ludicrous, yet José's charisma and the way in which he handled himself in front of the media was a complete breath of fresh air, he was arrogant but you couldn't help but like him for it.
    Back to back league titles and the Special One's aura, not to mention words, had been firmly backed up.
    When you examine Jose's managing style from this period it becomes clear that the one thing he always asked of his player was 100% complete and utter commitment to the cause, and no doubt commitment to him. He was the General leading his men into battle, there was to be no defeat and no surrender allowed under any circumstances.  The below video is a great example of him breeding this mentality within the Chelsea camp first time around.  
     
    "We cannot lose, we cannot lose" You follow ME we win, you believe in ME we become Champions.
    It's no surprise that when you see interviews of former Mourinho players, you often hear them describe playing for Jose was like 'going to war' and that every game was a 'battle'. It's like he wasn't so much trying to implement a style of play on his teams but a mentality and way of being that fought tooth and nail until the bitter end and would achieve success by any means necessary.
    Any player who failed to show the mental strength or commitment to such a cause was quickly surplus to requirements, and we all know that Jose has no problem showing players the door.
    Whilst this method has proven greatly successful for Mourinho, the only problem is that when your relying on implementing a 'mentality' rather than a style of play or a footballing 'philosophy' then you have to keep that mentality up yourself, at all times, you have to become it, you have to always be 'top dog' and never show any sign of weakness, never back down or budge an inch. How many times have we seen such behavior displayed by Jose? You needn't have to count anymore.      
    So when did the rot set in? Well I think we all know that Jose was sacked first time around by Chelsea because him and Abramovich clearly didn't see eye to eye in regards to both how the team should play and also the players that were coming in. A part of me feels that Roman felt threatened by Jose's increasing influence and power within Chelsea, he was becoming Chelsea and the whole 'Shevchenko' situation seemed to signal that both manager and owner were clearly heading in different directions, Abramovich clearly wanted Mourinho to know who was in charge and thus the post became untenable. Even so, when Jose returned to Stamford bridge after his sacking for the first time as manager of Inter Milan, you can quite clearly see how he still owned the hearts and minds of his former players.
      
     
    Soon after Jose went on to win his second Champions League title with Inter and again showed what happens when a team buys into him.  
     
     
    The bond with his players was unquestionable and at this moment in time he was the best manager in club football and soon Real Madrid came knocking.
    Now just try and imagine how Mourinho must of felt at this point in time in regards to his own success as a manager, not only was he a double Champions League winner but he had proven once again not only to himself but also to Chelsea, that it was Him that brought success and that it was Him who delivered trophies, regardless of what anyone else tried to say or do, he could go to another country, another league and still come out on top. He knew that it was because he did things his way and that his success depended on this unequivocally. To put it simply, a man who had never had a problem displaying his Ego now had absolutely no reason not to believe in his own hype, and that anyone who objected to this  just lacked the respect that he clearly deserved to be shown.
    When he tried to cement this fact upon the Real Madrid dressing room by dropping Iker Casillas from the first team for committing the cardinal sin of trying to smooth things over with the enemy (calling Barcelona players)  his war mongering style was becoming tiresome for a group of players who were keen to prevent fractures developing within the national team. This time Mourinho's antics hadn't just been confined to his own team but were starting to be felt within the larger context of Spanish football, and for many were leaving a sour taste in the mouth, or in Tito Vilanova's case, a sore eye.
    However, what seemed to hurt Jose more than anything was not so much the reputation he was developing in Spain but the fact that his players and club didn't love him and that they wouldn't die for him, for a man that demanded complete and utter loyalty this was a huge blow, it was high treason. Yet for a manger who's success derives so much from the mentality he displays, one in which he himself has beome consumed by, the only way forward was to continue in the same vein and become more and more defensive and vitriolic to any perceived slights levied against him.
    We all saw how this started to play out after the 'fairy tale' return to Chelsea the second time around, where I believe his aura at the club was still strong enough to carry him though until things turned sour again. the 'Eva' incident showing how his 'paranoia' and requirement to always have a scapegoat available when results on the pitch were not forthcoming had gotten way out of hand.
    The reason why Mourinho's behavior has become increasingly antagonistic without yielding results is because even if his players don't seem to be responding to his methods any more, he can't let go of them himself.   
    He has become his own methods and his ego is built upon that fact, to admit mistake is to admit he is wrong within his very own being. Basically his ego is doing everything within it's power to survive this absolutely crushing realization, and this is the problem because now this 'fear' is seeping into the mentality of his players and his teams.
    Ironically it's Jose's mentality that is now proving to be his undoing, because when your greatest strength in motivating a team to success starts to fear for it's own survival it starts having the complete opposite effect. If Jose changes so do his teams, because his teams are built in his image!          
    The once, arrogant, charismatic, confident, charming and inspiring Jose has now become the arrogant, petulant, paranoid, angry, and unfriendly Jose
    It really is a case of 'The emperor's new clothes' and I fear until Jose recognizes this within himself things are probably going to continue to become troublesome for him.
    There are few things harder in the world than becoming aware of one's own Ego, let alone changing it, especially when it's taken you to the top of the world.
    "I cannot lose, I cannot lose"
    My two cents.
     
     
                                                          
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    chef reacted to mad_mac in Jose Mourinho thread   
    Another poor performance today.  Not sure what's going on, but to be honest, the days of players looking like they'd run through walls for him seem to be a distant memory.
    I can't put my finger on what's going on, and without actually being inside the dressing rooms to hear team talks, and see how players react, I can merely speculate.  However, in pure speculation, it looks as if he has been "found out."  And no matter how many "go out and be Champions" type speeches he gives, they seem to be falling on deaf ears because his teams are failing.  I also think that Jose is very stubborn, and absolves himself of any blame.  So, we have him, his ego, one of the largest clubs in the world, a dressing room of egos, and a poor run of form.  I think it all adds up to trouble, and his reluctancy to change will cost him.
     
    I could see him lasting maybe one season at Utd, and they'll can him.  I don't think he was a good appointment for them, and Charlton et all were talking about how he may not be Manchester Utd material even prior to him arriving.  Look, in the past, when he was our manager, our saviour, the second coming, etc.  We all knew he was a prick, but he was ours and he was a winner.  We would side with him in believing there was a campaign against us.  We would side with him when things went wrong. We loved him as one of our own.  These days, he isn't winning, he is still complaining and being fined, and he is extremely quick to point blame at his players (both here, and at Utd).  Comments along the lines of "I've given them all my knowledge, the players have let me down" who just how much he has a "well, I'm a champion, so I can't be wrong" attitude.  I'm actually glad I don't have to justify him any longer. 
     
    I fully expect him to take a break from club football for a while.  Maybe he'll end up as Portugal's national team manager; however, I also think he couldn't stand to not eb in the limelight as little as National Team managers are.  If he does take a break, I also think he'll use that time to talk sh*t about Chelsea and Man Utd.  Gotta protect that Jose brand.
    Thanks for reading my conjecture.
     
    Scott
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    chef got a reaction from dkw in What TV Show Are You Waarching?   
    Yep. FX canned it after season 4 a couple of years ago. 
     
    I read somewhere  Mini Loz  Wood has his basement set up like the one on the set complete with a huge stuffed dog and a gatorade bottle bong.
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    chef reacted to dkw in What TV Show Are You Waarching?   
    It was a brilliant show that, is there a new series?
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