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  1. 2 hours ago, dkw said:

    Are you claiming our midfield plays the same as it did under Sarri, just with a few tweaks? Its chalk and cheese, the ball is passed forward far more often than under Sarri, in fact the whole impetus is aimed at getting the ball through the 3rds much quicker as soon as the keeper releases it. Now that may not happen all the time but that`s clearly the aim. The midfield now is based around high energy movement, passing the ball with pace, always with an aim to moving forward, there`s a hell of a lot more risks taken than with Sarri`s almost risk free game plan. I think if RLC had been available it would have been even more based around pace, mobility and power moving through the opposition, dominating the middle of the pitch. I dont see any of Sarri`s game in our current midfield set up.

    What you have just described is what Sarri was aiming for. It's how his "brand" of football differs from the tiki taka style.

    However he was one season in and converting a team who had just been managed by Conte. It was a transition season. Lampard has continued what Sarri started. He's done it really well and I'm impressed with him. 


  2. 2 hours ago, Gol15 said:

    @bisright1 On second thought, you're right about Rudiger, he was better last season now that I took some time to think about it. I wonder where did Lampard go wrong there?

    Lampard has failed to get our entire defence singing. This probably has something to do with overlapping full backs and no holding midfielder and a goalkeeper who anyone doing opposition scouting will have worked out he can't handle crosses. It's definitely noticeably worse this year than last. 

    Lampard has got our midfield playing well, that is 1) Carrying on the work Sarri did (who oversaw a huge change in style successfully) and 2) Excellent man management of young players. 

     

     


  3. 16 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

    We'll see how it will look after Frank has had a couple of transfer windows just like Solskjær, Klopp and Guardiola have had.

    Roman used to sack managers after a "meh" season before, but now it was clear that Lampard would get a free pass for the first season, even so it became obvious that despite everything we do have an overall decent squad and many other managers said it as well so the fact that many players grew into the squad only shows how capable Lampard is as a manager.

    IMO even if people point out how we suck at defending and how it's strange that many players get injured, our club has shown that we do have a really good personnel that has been capable of getting the maximum out of our squad.
    Most, if not all decisions that were made in recent times have been very good; securing Pulisic before the ban and fully signing Kovacic proved to be great moves already and going after players like Werner and Ziyech screams at how exciting times are yet to come in the very near future.
    Lampard on top of this vision has fully integrated Mount, Abraham, Gilmour and James, and is getting the most out of Barkley while at the same time RLC has recovered and is now featuring again. There hasn't been a single player that under-performed under Lampard this season in comparison to the previous season under Sarri for example.

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    Rudiger, Kepa, kante, Christensen have all performed worse this year. 

    Weird dig at Sarri considering our defense has been shocking this year.

    I'm all for praising Lampard. But let's not go overboard. We are probably going to finish 4th. We might finish 5th. We've had a good season. It's not been spellbinding and the real test starts next year. 


  4. 13 minutes ago, Sindre said:

    He's got a long  way to go. Defensively i think one would have the call him poor currently. All over the place again yesterday and i don't particularly like his lackadaisical ways defensively.

     

    I think he improved in the second half. But he needs to get into the game quicker. 


  5. Just now, driller97 said:

    Loaning him to west ham isn't a bad shout, he'll get loads of game time.

    He won't get much here now atm because he's simply not as good as our other options

    If true it also means that we get Rice for below his value. I assume that the loan is part of the deal.


  6. 1 hour ago, Argo said:

    He's competive and sometimes at the top of important, underlying metrics and has been very competitive against Europe's best (proof at the bottom), definition of a multifaceted skillset.

    His approach play and ceiling is a long way ahead of most his age in terms of talent... Intricate play, consistently dangerous productivity and ability to be effective stretching play or playing those effortless passes on either side of the box.

     

     

    Whenever I see a youtube video of a player's highlights, I always think of

     

     

    Interesting stats though.


  7. 1 hour ago, yorkleyblue said:

    Is greenwood this young manc lad who has had a couple of good-ish games of late and who nobody, even in Manchester, had heard much of until then?

    Yeah the Greenwood who has scored the same amount of goals this season as Abraham. If you have only heard of him recently then you just haven't been paying attention. The boy is very very special. 

    CHO was special. He might be special again. But it's been a long time since he showed it. He needs to seriously give himself a kick up the backside as I am not convinced he wants it enough. 


  8. 49 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

    Wasn't good enough then, and isn't good enough now.  English and had a good-ish few minutes against us last week aren't enough, IMHO

    There's a host of players who academies make mistakes on. 

    He could well be good enough. I'm interested to see what happens here, if we sign him to be a CB it could either be a massive failure or a masterstroke. Clearly someone in Chelsea has been doing their scouting and thinks the latter. 


  9. 5 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

    I think we paid 58m for him instead of 48m because he is American. I don't think we signed him to sell shirts as anyone with half a brain in football has realised if you sign a player to sell shirts, they have to actually be good. 

    I am not an economist so can't speak to what he will bring in. But if he is one of our top 3 players over the next 3-4 seasons (and through the next World Cup), it will be a lot of money. A f**k tonne of money. The American market is going to keep growing and it will be massive. When we tour America, we will be able to command a lot more money than we used to. When we sign a new shirt sponsorship deal after 3, we will be able to command more money. We don't have that many commercial partners at the moment - compare us to Man United, so we have the scope to add more. This all adds up and there's no simple calculation.   

    Not just money, but softer influence. Schurrle was delighted to sign for Chelsea because Ballack had played for us. If literally the best American footballer of all time (which Pulisic could likely be) is synonymous with Chelsea, then the next great American footballer will probably be a Chelsea fan. It makes him think twice if his options are Chelsea, United, Liverpool etc. 

    Add to this further, 

    In 2018, our commercial revenue was 170m. Compare that to United with 276m we are talking about a 100m difference. In 1 year. 

    How much can the number 1 American player ever bridge that gap is questionable. But over his contract, it will eclipse the amount we paid for him if he continues his growth in my opinion.


  10. 8 minutes ago, dkw said:

    Right, so do you think we signed him to sell shirts? How much do you think the new fans and sponsors will bring in?

    I think we paid 58m for him instead of 48m because he is American. I don't think we signed him to sell shirts as anyone with half a brain in football has realised if you sign a player to sell shirts, they have to actually be good. 

    I am not an economist so can't speak to what he will bring in. But if he is one of our top 3 players over the next 3-4 seasons (and through the next World Cup), it will be a lot of money. A f**k tonne of money. The American market is going to keep growing and it will be massive. When we tour America, we will be able to command a lot more money than we used to. When we sign a new shirt sponsorship deal after 3, we will be able to command more money. We don't have that many commercial partners at the moment - compare us to Man United, so we have the scope to add more. This all adds up and there's no simple calculation.   

    Not just money, but softer influence. Schurrle was delighted to sign for Chelsea because Ballack had played for us. If literally the best American footballer of all time (which Pulisic could likely be) is synonymous with Chelsea, then the next great American footballer will probably be a Chelsea fan. It makes him think twice if his options are Chelsea, United, Liverpool etc. 


  11. On 03/07/2020 at 16:47, evissy said:

    Absolutely. 2005-2009 we were at a same league as the Bayerns, Reals and Barcas. Now we are there with maybe Dortmund and even that is a stretch. Second tear team.

    If he uses us as a stepping stone as Eden I don't mind one bit.

    I think we are only a step up club for Real now. You wouldn't push to leave Chelsea for anyone else. 

    No one is going to leave us for Bayern, only a German would choose moving there instead of us.

    Barca look to be on a decline and they definitely cannot afford to be spending 100m anymore. 

    Havertz might be tempted by Madrid in a few years time, but on the flip side, he might never be needed there.


  12. 34 minutes ago, Slojo said:

    The fact that he's American is good though, it really opens up a big market there and a lot of American fans are interesting and tuning in, I'm sure you're one of them? 

    But I completely agree with you on the Hazard comparisons. In terms of dribbling, you can see why, I had no idea he was so tidy with the ball, one thing I do like about Pulisic though is that he will take risks. He loses the ball more than Hazard, but he takes a lot more risks. 

    He's different to Hazard. He's more direct. Hazard frustrated me a bit as he would often slow down the play. Pulisic always looks to move the ball forward quickly. 


  13. 16 minutes ago, dkw said:

    Which American Brands have joined our sponsorship portfolio since Pulisic signed, and how much are they paying? If we take Pulisic`s outlay by the club it will be the £54m fee + a reported £45m wage. So in total we are around £100m in for him. Then if you factor in he has a merchandising deal where he gets a percentage (as all top players now do) then we will be getting at best maybe around 20% of any sales back in as cash. We will need to be getting a lot of sponsorship and a hell of a lot of merchandise sales to impact on that outlay. Also bare in mind we have been travelling to the US for quite a few years prior to Pulisic signing so have built a fanbase already so I dont think signing him will have influenced that many new fans. It might just mean they buy a shirt with his name on the back rather than hazard, lampard etc....

    You need to take a trip to reddit. Every time he scores it is one of the most viewed videos of the day. Of all content. On one of the biggest internet platforms. 

    You are seriously underestimating how many new fans we will get. 

    Over the next couple of years you will see the deals come in. But you might not hear that our American tour next summer will generate a lot more revenue than it would have otherwise. 

    This is all dependent on him being successful with us. That will bring American brands in. That's why every game we play will be watched there.

    I think him being American added 5-10 mil to the price, but isn't the reason we signed him. That's all. However if he becomes one of our stars, we will make more.off him than the cost. 

     

    Looked it up, beats by Dre sponsor us, if that renews the price will increase. We are also now sponsored by fiserv who are an American brand for 1mil a year. Pulisic would have helped that deal. 


  14. 2 hours ago, JM7 said:

    Are we wearing it the rest of the season then?

    And if we are, what about the away kits? Will they revert to this seasons kit? Seems abit off to mix and match. 

    Pretty sure we will announce away kit and play in it this week


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