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  1. 4 minutes ago, Malta Blue said:

    So false alarm then? Well for now anyway. Last report I saw was FIFA asking the involved parties to stop with the heated debates and find a calm solution. I think there has been alot of heated words shared behind the scenes aswel as public arguments

    Never knew FIFA would one day be the voice of reasoning.lol

  2. 3 minutes ago, jack h said:

    It's a f**k you to us the fans, to football as a sport itself. You'd have to be both naive and delusional in the extreme if you think this is about reforming a governing body.

    It is obviously not about reforming the governing body but explain to me how it is a f**k you to the fans if the clubs will still participate in their local leagues. All they are doing is replacing the UCL with the Super league while making more money for themselves. It is all about money. Why do u think lampard was fired . The club was afraid of not making the UCL and hence losing money

  3. 5 minutes ago, Richard P said:

    This league will not be followed by match day fans anymore. How do you stay interested if you can’t afford at least half the games! It will be more corporate.

    I bet the away season ticket scheme will be interesting. You can put down your house and we will take equal monthly payments before making you homeless!!

    Home games will have hardly any away fans. Tickets will be unbelievably expensive.

    I can see one plus, the dippers won’t be able to sing we ain’t got no history as we will all start from scratch!!

    It is a replacement for the Champions league. We still want to be part of the premier league. We are just saying f**k u to UEFA. Didnt you read the statement on the club website

     

    • 20 participating clubs with 15 Founding Clubs and a qualifying mechanism for a further five teams to qualify annually based on achievements in the prior season.
       
    • Midweek fixtures with all participating clubs continuing to compete in their respective national leagues, preserving the traditional domestic match calendar which remains at the heart of the club game.
  4. 4 minutes ago, Valhalla said:

    I'm shocked. I'm numb. Is this real life? 

    How has this happened. I'm questioning if I should follow this club anymore. 

    I guess you can buzz off to VALHALLA..

    lol. just kidding. i know how u feel

  5. Just now, Deino said:

    The clubs have already signed up though and reportedly each get 310million for joining. Which facts aren't on the table yet?

    UEFA and FIFA have already responded along with the Premier League. The only thing left is the execution and announcement.

    Have you seen these signed documents? Has Chelsea football club come out and said anything. Like i said it is all speculation but  you are free to take it as fact

  6. This is all speculation. I am old enough to know not to pass judgement until all the facts are on the table.  

    I am skeptical about the timing though because UEFA was meant to unveil their new format for the Champions league commencing the year 2024 tomorrow . This might just be a show of power from the big clubs who dont want to share the pie with the smaller teams but like i said i will wait till the facts are on the table before i pass judgement

  7. We need the squad for this game. Azpi and mount are due a rest and Kante needs to be protected if we want to get past real. 

                            Mendy

          Zouma. Christensen. Rudiger

    CHO       Gilmour. Jorginho.      Alonso

                            Ziyech

                   havertz.     Pulisic

     

  8. 31 minutes ago, RMH said:

    For me, his best game was against Liverpool and surprisingly he did exactly what @just and others are arguing, long passes to the space behind the scouse defenders.

    And we cant forget the lofted pass against crystal palace when Havertz did the Gascoigne lob over the defender but missed. It would have been a goal of the season contender and Jorginho would have been associated with the play but unfortunately it is just history to no fault of Jorginhos

  9. 40 minutes ago, just said:

    The part I have highlighted Don I disagree with because Jorginho should be attempting those passes from a much deeper position than Kante or Mount. The deep sitting area he plays in often affords him more time to play those balls than Kante or Mount get further up the pitch. Also with Kante and Mount further forwards the opposition have usually dropped back to defend, hence less time and compressed space for forwards to move into and obviously less space for the ball to played into.

    What Jorginho should be doing IMO from that deep position, is attempting the sort of long, early balls that Luiz used to send from the same area. OK some might get intercepted, depends on how accurate he is, but if they are, there should be more than enough cover because he is still in his usual position and so is the rest of the team.

    Don't get me wrong Don Jorginho has played well within Tuchel's system since the Leeds and WBA games but he still doesn't offer much creativity or attacking passing which IMO he should do. Yesterday he had 3 or 4 options to try those early forward passes to transition defence to attack but he chose not to. I can't understand why not when we have a striker with Werner's pace upfront.

    To be fair I see your point. Jorginho is Very good at his job but would be even better if he could try some ambitious balls over the defence. I honestly always see him under pressure though  hence why I think it would be risky if he lost the ball in that position. I believe he is just playing to instruction by playing the safe passes which I have no problems with. THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN INSTANCES WHEN HE PLAYED A THROUGH BALL BUT OUR STRIKERS FLUFFED THEIR LINES 

    I do agree with you about playing the ball early to Werner though. I really hate it when I see Werner make a run and the midfielders or defenders just play the safe pass ,even though I think Werner can learn to hold his run a little bit.

    I was wondering though. With gilmour going on loan next season who do u suggest we buy to fulfil this trait that is clearly missing  in our midfield?

  10. 26 minutes ago, Ballack & Blu said:

    To counter that argument, we play expansive football to a degree, but nearly all our midfield like to rotate the possession backwards and sideways, if a pro plays the pass in the sort of area it should go, and a bdefender intercepts isn't that football, not the necessary stray ball leads to an offensive counter attack, Either Manutd when they sort of dominated, just kept attacking, very much like Liverpool last year, you know from the match day thread, most of us hate Pep/Tuchel possession for possessions sake football, we have the players to be far more ruthless..

         I agree with the fact that a pro should be able to take a risky pass. I just don't think that responsibility falls on the Defensive midfielder when there are others ahead of him to make that pass. If Mount makes that pass and it gets intercepted he has Jorginho and kante to bail him  , If jorginho fails the opponent has a free go at our defence. 

         I dont agree with your statement that we have the players to play like liverpool of last season or Man u in their prime, if we did Lampard wouldn't have been fired because he was obviously going for that kind of football. We dont have fowards like Mane and Salah who can give you 20 goals a season 

  11. 9 minutes ago, just said:

    Lets be clear, Jorginho AND Kante dominated the midfield.

    But yes Don, agreed, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some people voiced the opinion that Kante was sloppy with his passing at times, I felt Jorginho was at times too safe and conservative with his passing when options were available in front of him, particularly some of the movement from Werner. Personally I don't for a moment believe his job is not make an attempt at those passes when the opportunity is there. My frustration is understanding why he often doesn't even try.

     

     

     

          The fact is he is instructed to measure the risk/ reward of his passes  hence the safe passes that help us keep possesion which is very crucial against the top sides. To you he should just pass the difficult pass and send werner through but if that pass is intercepted it is a very easy counter attack which will lead to a goal. Especially since it is our DM making the pass and wont be in position to protect the defence. The passes you are talking about should be made by Kante and Mount since they are ahead of him and to his credit Mount made the pass for Ziyechs goal.

          I do agree though that i would love to see jorginho take more risks when we play lower teams that just park the bus but to me his performance today against the best team in the prem was a 10 over 10.

  12. 1 hour ago, just said:

    Yep wouldn't argue with that BB. A lot of parallels with Mikel.

    There was an example picked up in the 2nd half match commentary of Werner making a run and Jorginho not attempting the pass. It is how he plays and many people are happy with that, safe, keeps possession, makes the stats look great. Fair enough. But for me I see it as a big limitation and I think he could be a completely different player if he was more adventurous, more creative, tried to prompt the transition, change the tempo, by attempting more early, longer balls. As I said, he is sitting deep and can see the whole pitch in front of him, he can see the space. Especially when we have a forward with Werner's pace.

            I honestly can't believe how Jorginho can be criticized after todays performance. I guess beauty is really in the eye of the beholder. Jorginho totally dominated the midfield with his possesion and even added some extra bite with his tackles and ball recoveries. It is not his job to send hollywood passes to the striker. He as a job for the team and does it to perfection. he is similar to prime Sergio Busquets, now tell me how many times Busquets sent through balls to the Barca strikers. His job was to recycle the ball and get it Xavi , Inesta and Messi to do damage.  There is a reason why Pep wanted Jorginho and that is because he is the best defensive midfielder in a possesion based system.  If Jorginho was in Mancity he would be hailed as the GUORDIOLA/busquets of this generation

  13. On 16/04/2021 at 11:10, axman2526 said:

    Him and Kante will need to better there displays from tuesday for tomorrow. These are not some above average Porto players they are facing, os an elite midfield with the best offensive midfielder in the world against them.

    As much as I am a fan of Jorgi I think he gets slaughtered tomorrow tbh. 

    NAAAA BUDDY.lol

    To be fair i thought KDB would destroy when i saw the line ups

  14. 6 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

    Very disciplined performance, not the best for the neutral yet good we burst City's bubble.

    Tuchel's first win over Pep in their 8 meetings.

    Got worried a little when Gundogan came on yet strangely seemed to be playing more defensive than offensive.

    Perhaps a bit of fortune with KDB getting injured yet then Silva also had to go off.

    Now can Chelsea do the Double? :biggrin:

     

    Feeling like deja vu of 2012

  15. 4 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

    At least we can say that we have reached the Man City level of play, finally we have managed to have more possession for more than 30 minutes which is a big deal, rewind a few seasons back and we could have just dreamed of being in this scenario.

    To be fair this is their second team. The only starters from their UCL game are Diaz rodri and debruyne

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