The Swan

Your first post and you lead with this, you’ll have to try better on the wind up ...

Your first post and you lead with this, you’ll have to try better on the wind up ...

Luton had an active firm in the 80s and 90s but when it mattered in some high profile games they came up short. What you sadly experienced was an inferiority complex hangover. If they had come to SB it would have been their cup final and every scum bag in that deprived town would have shown. A few decades too late to be honest.

Luton had an active firm in the 80s and 90s but when it mattered in some high profile games they came up short. What you sadly experienced was an inferiority complex hangover. If they had come to SB it would have been their cup final and every scum bag in that deprived town would have shown. A few decades too late to be honest.

Your first post and you lead with this, you’ll have to try better on the wind up ...

Your first post and you lead with this, you’ll have to try better on the wind up ...

I am not a "dude", I have tried to make allowances for you being new, posting in a second language and not being very bright, but there is no vaccine for stupid, and no allowances to be made for someone being a prick.
Another on the long, oh, so long ignore list.

That doesn't actually mean anything, it's just random words and doesn't address my point

Your first post and you lead with this, you’ll have to try better on the wind up ...

That looks photoshopped for me.

The reality is that Frank over achieved last season and only lost out on 3rd place due to goal difference. Most pundits were predicting we would be lucky to finish in the top 10 so Frank deserves real praise.
It might sound counterintuitive but for me it was obvious that this season was going to be tricky due to the signings. Frank needs time and so do the players. Yes, it is frustrating, and things are not going well. But it is too early to push him out and next season was always what It was going to be about.
It’s great that Chelsea are on the TV so much but if you are listening to Sky or BT commentary (I’ll take Amazon any day or even the BBC) just forget it. They hype things up and create negative narratives when there is no need to. Coming up with meaningless stats to create stories when there is no story. I have to turn the volume off so just so I can think for myself. There is a negative hysteria at the moment regarding CFC and we all need to be patient.
It’s possible there are some divides on this forum. I started watching Chelsea in the early 80s and probably watched them more when they were poor than when they were good. I find that with longer standing fans or younger fans who are second or third generation fans there is a greater tolerance of the current situation. It’s not to say that these fans are not critical, they can be, it’s just that they appear less hysterical. Some of the more modern fans have a sense of ego which means that they personally feel slighted if Chelsea are not winning. It’s strange to explain, perhaps it’s what a plastic is but it feels more like a social media type of fan.
I am not suggesting for one moment that you are being hysterical but when you state that changes are needed for the next game etc. It’s obvious we won’t improve drastically overnight but I remain optimistic that things will get better, and we will clime back up the table. But I stand by what I believe, next season will need to be better and Frank knows and accepts this.
Our recent history has seen short-term decisions which to an extent have brought many trophies, but it would be good if a dynasty of some sort could be built. It took 10 years for the current Liverpool set up to reach its current dizzy heights, it took a couple of years to get it right at City. Go back in history to Fergie at Man Utd, he started poorly and using your approach should have been sacked. What a loss that would have been. We are rebuilding and the this set up needs time.
Yes, it’s a gamble being patient with Frank but that is what is needed. UTC.

The reality is that Frank over achieved last season and only lost out on 3rd place due to goal difference. Most pundits were predicting we would be lucky to finish in the top 10 so Frank deserves real praise.
It might sound counterintuitive but for me it was obvious that this season was going to be tricky due to the signings. Frank needs time and so do the players. Yes, it is frustrating, and things are not going well. But it is too early to push him out and next season was always what It was going to be about.
It’s great that Chelsea are on the TV so much but if you are listening to Sky or BT commentary (I’ll take Amazon any day or even the BBC) just forget it. They hype things up and create negative narratives when there is no need to. Coming up with meaningless stats to create stories when there is no story. I have to turn the volume off so just so I can think for myself. There is a negative hysteria at the moment regarding CFC and we all need to be patient.
It’s possible there are some divides on this forum. I started watching Chelsea in the early 80s and probably watched them more when they were poor than when they were good. I find that with longer standing fans or younger fans who are second or third generation fans there is a greater tolerance of the current situation. It’s not to say that these fans are not critical, they can be, it’s just that they appear less hysterical. Some of the more modern fans have a sense of ego which means that they personally feel slighted if Chelsea are not winning. It’s strange to explain, perhaps it’s what a plastic is but it feels more like a social media type of fan.
I am not suggesting for one moment that you are being hysterical but when you state that changes are needed for the next game etc. It’s obvious we won’t improve drastically overnight but I remain optimistic that things will get better, and we will clime back up the table. But I stand by what I believe, next season will need to be better and Frank knows and accepts this.
Our recent history has seen short-term decisions which to an extent have brought many trophies, but it would be good if a dynasty of some sort could be built. It took 10 years for the current Liverpool set up to reach its current dizzy heights, it took a couple of years to get it right at City. Go back in history to Fergie at Man Utd, he started poorly and using your approach should have been sacked. What a loss that would have been. We are rebuilding and the this set up needs time.
Yes, it’s a gamble being patient with Frank but that is what is needed. UTC.

The reality is that Frank over achieved last season and only lost out on 3rd place due to goal difference. Most pundits were predicting we would be lucky to finish in the top 10 so Frank deserves real praise.
It might sound counterintuitive but for me it was obvious that this season was going to be tricky due to the signings. Frank needs time and so do the players. Yes, it is frustrating, and things are not going well. But it is too early to push him out and next season was always what It was going to be about.
It’s great that Chelsea are on the TV so much but if you are listening to Sky or BT commentary (I’ll take Amazon any day or even the BBC) just forget it. They hype things up and create negative narratives when there is no need to. Coming up with meaningless stats to create stories when there is no story. I have to turn the volume off so just so I can think for myself. There is a negative hysteria at the moment regarding CFC and we all need to be patient.
It’s possible there are some divides on this forum. I started watching Chelsea in the early 80s and probably watched them more when they were poor than when they were good. I find that with longer standing fans or younger fans who are second or third generation fans there is a greater tolerance of the current situation. It’s not to say that these fans are not critical, they can be, it’s just that they appear less hysterical. Some of the more modern fans have a sense of ego which means that they personally feel slighted if Chelsea are not winning. It’s strange to explain, perhaps it’s what a plastic is but it feels more like a social media type of fan.
I am not suggesting for one moment that you are being hysterical but when you state that changes are needed for the next game etc. It’s obvious we won’t improve drastically overnight but I remain optimistic that things will get better, and we will clime back up the table. But I stand by what I believe, next season will need to be better and Frank knows and accepts this.
Our recent history has seen short-term decisions which to an extent have brought many trophies, but it would be good if a dynasty of some sort could be built. It took 10 years for the current Liverpool set up to reach its current dizzy heights, it took a couple of years to get it right at City. Go back in history to Fergie at Man Utd, he started poorly and using your approach should have been sacked. What a loss that would have been. We are rebuilding and the this set up needs time.
Yes, it’s a gamble being patient with Frank but that is what is needed. UTC.

The reality is that Frank over achieved last season and only lost out on 3rd place due to goal difference. Most pundits were predicting we would be lucky to finish in the top 10 so Frank deserves real praise.
It might sound counterintuitive but for me it was obvious that this season was going to be tricky due to the signings. Frank needs time and so do the players. Yes, it is frustrating, and things are not going well. But it is too early to push him out and next season was always what It was going to be about.
It’s great that Chelsea are on the TV so much but if you are listening to Sky or BT commentary (I’ll take Amazon any day or even the BBC) just forget it. They hype things up and create negative narratives when there is no need to. Coming up with meaningless stats to create stories when there is no story. I have to turn the volume off so just so I can think for myself. There is a negative hysteria at the moment regarding CFC and we all need to be patient.
It’s possible there are some divides on this forum. I started watching Chelsea in the early 80s and probably watched them more when they were poor than when they were good. I find that with longer standing fans or younger fans who are second or third generation fans there is a greater tolerance of the current situation. It’s not to say that these fans are not critical, they can be, it’s just that they appear less hysterical. Some of the more modern fans have a sense of ego which means that they personally feel slighted if Chelsea are not winning. It’s strange to explain, perhaps it’s what a plastic is but it feels more like a social media type of fan.
I am not suggesting for one moment that you are being hysterical but when you state that changes are needed for the next game etc. It’s obvious we won’t improve drastically overnight but I remain optimistic that things will get better, and we will clime back up the table. But I stand by what I believe, next season will need to be better and Frank knows and accepts this.
Our recent history has seen short-term decisions which to an extent have brought many trophies, but it would be good if a dynasty of some sort could be built. It took 10 years for the current Liverpool set up to reach its current dizzy heights, it took a couple of years to get it right at City. Go back in history to Fergie at Man Utd, he started poorly and using your approach should have been sacked. What a loss that would have been. We are rebuilding and the this set up needs time.
Yes, it’s a gamble being patient with Frank but that is what is needed. UTC.

The reality is that Frank over achieved last season and only lost out on 3rd place due to goal difference. Most pundits were predicting we would be lucky to finish in the top 10 so Frank deserves real praise.
It might sound counterintuitive but for me it was obvious that this season was going to be tricky due to the signings. Frank needs time and so do the players. Yes, it is frustrating, and things are not going well. But it is too early to push him out and next season was always what It was going to be about.
It’s great that Chelsea are on the TV so much but if you are listening to Sky or BT commentary (I’ll take Amazon any day or even the BBC) just forget it. They hype things up and create negative narratives when there is no need to. Coming up with meaningless stats to create stories when there is no story. I have to turn the volume off so just so I can think for myself. There is a negative hysteria at the moment regarding CFC and we all need to be patient.
It’s possible there are some divides on this forum. I started watching Chelsea in the early 80s and probably watched them more when they were poor than when they were good. I find that with longer standing fans or younger fans who are second or third generation fans there is a greater tolerance of the current situation. It’s not to say that these fans are not critical, they can be, it’s just that they appear less hysterical. Some of the more modern fans have a sense of ego which means that they personally feel slighted if Chelsea are not winning. It’s strange to explain, perhaps it’s what a plastic is but it feels more like a social media type of fan.
I am not suggesting for one moment that you are being hysterical but when you state that changes are needed for the next game etc. It’s obvious we won’t improve drastically overnight but I remain optimistic that things will get better, and we will clime back up the table. But I stand by what I believe, next season will need to be better and Frank knows and accepts this.
Our recent history has seen short-term decisions which to an extent have brought many trophies, but it would be good if a dynasty of some sort could be built. It took 10 years for the current Liverpool set up to reach its current dizzy heights, it took a couple of years to get it right at City. Go back in history to Fergie at Man Utd, he started poorly and using your approach should have been sacked. What a loss that would have been. We are rebuilding and the this set up needs time.
Yes, it’s a gamble being patient with Frank but that is what is needed. UTC.

Jealous that you were actually able to get tickets for these games

Jealous that you were actually able to get tickets for these games

You know I really enjoy the different views and I respect those who think Frank is not the right man for the job anymore and a change would improve us. Putting forward ideas as to who could take over and changes they could see made. While I want Frank to have more time I respect the right to those views that he should not get it 
What I dont respect is those taking enjoyment from point scoring on Frank, like they are enjoying him being in this position .
Frank deserves respect, he is a man who is always involved in discussions as our best ever player, who bleeds blue, who loves the club like we are all supposed to.
There are some on here that fit the title of "plastic" perfectly.

I couldn’t agree more Axeman, it’s pitiful.
Do these so called supporters think that Frank is not trying his arse off to get things right.
one thing you can guarantee with Frank, however much we are all down and hurting he’s feeling it too.
 

Expectations have really nosedived. Understandably so, but it’s quite a shift. And it’s not just on here. I’m seeing it in the media too. Leicester can “pounce on ponderous Chelsea”, says Sky Sports. If I were a Leicester fan, that would make me wince, just as the Chilwell “we’re invincible” interview made many on here nervous - justifiably so, as it turned out alas. This doesn’t mean we’re going to win of course, but I prefer this setup. We have a better chance of winning than many seem to think.

Not sure this is a must win game (how many times we will hear that this season?  Every game is a must win game?).
I would take a draw but obviously want the win. A loss would be …unwelcome and place Frank under a lot of pressure. My hunch is that Chelsea will play well and either draw or win.

A tough game.  Mind you, aren’t they all at the moment.

That’s the spirit and Fulham are not bad at the moment.

That’s the spirit and Fulham are not bad at the moment.

wasn’t great, but we won, have a beer 🍺 and let’s enjoy our Saturday night, UTC