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  1. Those are all valid points Las.


    But the way I look at it, as a person that is looking to be successful in life, do you expect him to go say to the manager ''hey, I don't think I can score, put me on the bench''?


    I think he should've been on the bench and it was up to the manager or someone higher than whoever that manager at the time was to deal with it correctly and make it clear to him. It's not like he gave up after five months and laid back collecting his paycheck, he always tried, should he have given the chance to always try? Probably not, but I don't blame him for trying and failing.



    Well there was coincidental sackings to every manager that questioned Torres as first choice. AvB compared him to Kezman and Sheva got sacked shortly after; RdM benched him and preferred a false nine sacked shortly after. We finally have a manager with enough authority to not use him and a season later that manager has allowed him to leave. We are likely to sign Remy as replacement and it would be an upgrade over Torres. 


    Like I said I think there was a lot of nepotism around Torres and our board were making decision based on what would make him return some of the investment instead of concentrating on actually winning things. Carroll was also a huge flop but at least the Pool board didn't persist with him and got rid of him at the first opportunity.


    I don't question his effort, for a striker effort is not important putting the ball in the back of the net is. Players like Berbatov are able to build a whole career despite never seemingly making a huge effort, because they provide plenty to the side. Torres never provided enough, considering the amount of time and effort we wasted in trying to make it work his time was frustrating for fans to say the least. 

  2. I don't understand people who say he is the worst signing of our history, that he was the one who appointed Rafa who ''left a blemish on this club'' , that his corner in the CL final means nothing and that he is the reason Drogba didn't negotiate a new contract and why Sturridge left


    ''He summed up how he felt about this club by refusing to score against liverpool'' ?


    I'm sorry bet get your head out of your ass and be realistic for a second.


    Don't get me wrong, I have never been a big fan of him as a player, but he wore the shirt for 3 years, was he overpriced? Yes. Was he a flop? Yes. Does he deserve to be hated for it his whole life, or his whole career for that matter? No. He didn't buy himself, why are you not writing a long letter of hate towards the club's board who acquired him? What corner would Mata have taken if Torres hadn't earned it?


    And I'm sorry but this completely blows my bloody mind. Torres is the reason Drogba didn't negotiate a new contract? I'm not even responding to that.


    Which brings us to Rafa, and of the most humiliating periods of my tenure as a Chelsea supporter, not because an ex-liverpool manager who had said some bad things about Chelsea before was our manager, but because the way the fans reacted to it. You buy a ticket to a chelsea game only to go and boo the team? What kind of fan are you? Was I excited to see him at the helm? No, but I still supported him because you know what he was the one at the helm of the club I'm supporting, and if you let a spanish waiter change that than you deserve to be a scouser.


    After 3 years I'd have hoped people would have gotten over trying to blame every little thing we have done wrong on Torres, he went out there and played even when non of the fans supported him, and I applaud him for that, he didn' to that well, but I am thankful he went out there because the day I will not support a player that wears the blue shirt will be the day I stop being a Chelsea supporter.


    - rant over



    He has left, he was a flop, he blocked the progress of much better strikers only due to his wage and transfer amount. I would not have had as much of a problem with him in the squad if he wasn't constantly picked by Carlo, AVB and RdM. There were better options within the squad who deserved to start much more than him. The fact that he pushed for being unquestionable number one after our CL victory, which was not our board's doing. 


    Our board and Roman bend over backwards to accommodate him - I've said who ever made the decision to have Torres as our first option after our CL victory is to blame. But people shouldn't act like Torres wasn't part of that equation, he puled a strop after our CL victory and our board were more than happy to cripple our chances in the League and CL by only having him as our first choice striker. 


    His level right now is a rotational striker in a club who might have a chance to qualify for the Europa League, his level has been like that since he joined us. If Lukaku, Sturridge or even Kalou were given as much chances as Torres there is no doubt they would have performed much better overall. Not only that but when our attacking midfield was more confident with the player ahead of themit would have unshackled them and allowed them to play with more confidence. It's clear to everyone now what a striker making runs and constantly scoring can do for a side.

    His tally in the League with us is embarrassing, sure when he arrived we didn't have that many creative outlets, but that was quickly changed as we bought so much creative talent that no striker could complain. It's our problem we decided to base this talent around a player who was finished at top level. 


    The Era of Torres is one of the best examples of nepotism. It was clear after less than an year, that our board should cut their loses but instead they doubled down and we were crippled in the League mainly because of their decision to try and make it work. 



    I've never had a huge problem with Torres as a person, as a player at CFC however he is one of the most frustrating players to put on the blue kit. 

  3. div don't ever accuse me of supporting another team. 



    Maybe next time you would learn to phrase your sentences better. The way you worded your comment it was easy to interpret it as a comment made by an opposition supporter. That's the reason I bolded a particular part of your quote. 


    We(as a group of supporters) are stuck with him, if he doesn't leave. 

  4. boy there are some real torres haters on this forum. any one would think he was a bad as say andy carrol or darren bent. jesus christ 


    torres is going nowhere, those are the facts! you are stuck with him. at least he trys when he plays.




    Thaank you very much for the input opposition supporter, no doubt anyone support some other team in England hopes we keep him. 


    Maybe you could pop into the Redcafe forum next and ask them not to write sh*te about Ashley Young or Tom Cleverley, than swing by a thefightingcock and have a pop at them for their treatment of Saldgado.


    We need more people like you, protecting the rights of professionals making over 100k p/w not being discussed in negative light on football forums. 

  5. I'm not happy about Liverpool signing Balotelli, he might be lazy but he is the best striker they could have possibly bought for that amount of money. Their main issue was where would the goals come from if Sturridge got injured - now they have options. 


    Also I don't agree with you time, I thought Balotelli was one of Italy's best players at the World Cup(Pirlo being the one above him).  

  6. You actually believe that bollocks?


    You believe that RdM and AVB both rated Torres higher than Sturridge? 


    It's pretty clear that the only person that rates Torres as a first choice striker at CFC after his first 6 months at the club was Roman and possibly the board that handled the transfer to get him in. 

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