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I don't see why you believe they didn't do what Tuchel wanted, he had his teams do the exact same thing while at Chelsea, he had englams do it against Mexici and Norway, and praised them for their mental strength while doing it. Its how he always goes against big teams after nicking a goal, go deep, go conpact, fill the box with defenders and take off any outlets, rely on scrambling to a win. Its the most insane 40 minutes I've ever seen by a top coach in a big game, he got literally every single thing wrong. Its 100% on him as he was brought in to ensure this exact situation didnt happen, he even said himself thats what he was here to do, taking an unnecessary dig at Southgate, who I hope was sat watching it laughing his arse off.

Or you could try and argue the points I made, rather than just ignore it an blame bias.

Tuchel there complaining that our DNA doesnt want to take the ball and control it, after leaving behind all the English players that can take the ball and control it and taking Henderson along to do quizzes and magic shows.

Its literally the reason he was brought in, he himself said that was his job, he failed completely and just gave up on it. Bear in mind this was the next game after he had praised the players incredible mental strength after the Mexico and Norway games.

Spence who had been down with cramp and looked completely shot for 10 minutes before, who should have been taken off well before then? Yeah, cant think why.

I`m amazed you actually believethis is what happened, especially after seeing the way we played under him which was to retreat deep and compact whenever we took a lead in big games. Its literally his game plan.

Hes saying our players didnt control the ball yet he left at home several players that can do just that at the highest level, and instead took players to create a nice atmosphere. Its all non him, whether its the squad selection or the shockingly bad subs hes made over the past 3 games. He used the interval to set up completely differently and deep, then took off the only attacking outlet we had for another defender. Theres absolutely no excuses for him.

So no fault of Tuchel then, who said he knew the problem, knew how to fix it unlike other coaches?

Almost as if playing him for that many games n such a short time was a daft idea, especially after taking another injury prone right back as "cover".

This is a brilliant video explaining how it went right, then the changes he made that went so badly wrong. Argentina had all the momentum, so Tuchel does nothing to change that, in fact he just completely plays into it and concedes everything taking Gordon of for Konsa. Awful management.

Absolute bo**ocks, these players seem to manage it when playing for some of the best teams in Europe, all the team on the weekend play for teams that get to the final few in the CL, theres nothing wrong with their mentality. What we saw was Tuchel do what he has done with his teams for years, score and shut up shop, get deeper and more compact, pull wide attackers back and in. It worked against Mexico and Norway, just, the difference is Argentina are better and if you just concede all the pitch and ball to a team like them then they will score. Tuchel said he was brought in to "fix" all that, and yet didnt, he was as bad if not worse than all our other coaches. Not even surprised hes blaming players again, its his go to when things fail.

Tuchel made a point of ciriticising Southgate when he got the job, saying how he knows what were missing and how to get us playing to win. He then did everything Southgate used to do multiplied by 10, I would love to see Southgate come out and just say "Hey Tuchel, f**k you"....

Wouldnt be surprised to see Stones return to Everton on a free, if they can afford his wages.

Messi went wide on to Spence when he was done, he had cramp and was looked very leggy so Messi moved to attack him, double and tripled up on him. To combat that Tuchel erm....did nowt, not a thing.

Dont know how anyone can claim he made the right decisions with the squad, thats partially the reason weve struggled in the last 2 games. Quansah instead of TAA, Hall or Shaw Madueke instead of Foden Henderson instead of Gibbs White or Wharton (the worst one of all) Toney instead of anyone else Last night as we were losing control he had nothing to do to change it, he sat and watched it all happen with zero input into stopping it other than to get our team to drop deeper and deeper, and become more compact. Having someone like Gibbs White to run with the ball, Foden to take control and either make space or draw a foul, Hall on for an exhausted Spence, someone other than Toney to give us a target. He f**ked the squad up massively, highlighted perfectly by the balls up at right back, took 2 injury prone ones who then got injured (surprisingly to him), then replaced them with a CB who never got a single minute of game time.

Incredible that a top manager thinks the right thing to do after scoring a goal is to go fully defensive and deep, tuck in the wide players, then sub them for defenders and basically just completely concede the pitch an ball to the current world champions. Hes not the genius some think he is, hes an average coach whos unable to build an attack and completely relies on just being a tight 9 defending.

I dont like saying I told you so in these circumstances...but I f**king told you so. Hes an incredible negative coach, he is more interested in not losing than winning, has no idea how to actually set up an attack and completely relies on solidity and deep defense. Everyone could see from the Cape Verde and Egypt games that Argentina cant handle pace running at them, they had 2 cb`s on yellow cards and we were all over them out wide. So after we score what does the tactical genius too, pull everyone deep, bring the wide players in side to cover midfield, then take them off for defenders. We had zero outlets, if we did get the ball then there was literally no one up field to get the ball to, the argies were wide open to counters with some pace, like say a Gordon type player, oh wait, hes been subbed for f**king Konsa. Hes a fraud of a manager living on digging a CL win out with Chelsea by doing exactly the same thing he tried last night and v Mexico and Norway. Nick a goal, scrap to the end.

Amazing that pretty much the only defender he didnt use was the one he brought in as a replacement instead of someone he could have actually used

Egypt and f**king cape verde took the game to them, and showed their defence was shonky, they kept going after them. We score and sh*t the bed again, tuchels always been a negative manager, always been more about not losing rather than must win.

Tuchel, the f**king moron.

Hes nowhere near as good as many think he is, his in game management is abysmal, completely f**ked up the subs and formations in this game and the Mexico one.

And there it is...great idea sitting deep eh....stupid tuchel...f**king idiot

You'd never get bored of punching half of these dwarf c**ts.

Thank God hes finally dropped Madueke, if he started tonight then I wasn't watching it...