How do you think Conte will cope with a ready-made platform of money, prestige and influence to build on at this club which is an underperforming giant with a huge wage budget that had finished 1st before this anomalous season?
Had Pirlo's book sitting on a shelf for a while so this provides impetus to finally read it.
Conte is about as exciting a prospect as I can imagine for this club right now. Let's be honest, it's hard to muster much enthusiasm when these appointments can feel slightly temporary and there's precedent for people not called Jose to have rather short shelf-lives.
But he does tick a lot of boxes. He's rebuilt great clubs before, he's got a style that suits our Kings Rd image, he speaks the language, he can play exciting football but he also plays with intensity and that's something I think we all look back fondly on. The names being thrown around like Nainngolen and Vidal harken back to the days of Essien when we'd overpower teams in the middle and then dance on their lifeless bodies.
I know people get bored of formation-talk but that's where part of the excitement is for me. We aren't a great team but we have some great players and they might excel in his team. Courtois, Costa, Fabregas and Hazard are the most irreplaceable players we have and if he does go with either a 352 or even a revised 433 then they can be huge for us. If Conte works to his players strengths then these will be the ones he builds around.
I know that some players have spoken of how relaxed they feel under Guus but I don't think that's where we should be as a club. We should be pushing ourselves every day to be better and everything I've read and heard about Conte suggests that he is a man obsessed with that. I think that's what we want in a coach.
We just need to hope that the club allows him to succeed and that means giving him freedom and backing him.
I just know it's all Mourinhos fault. Mourinho still had a PL winning team. When Hiddink loses with the same squad it's still Mourinhos fault. If we lose in 10 years time to a Traore goal it's all Mourinhos fault.
I feel like im living in an alternate reality reading some of these comments on here. Did I imagine Mourinho winning 3 league titles with this club? Did I imagine him winning a treble with Inter?
I was under the impression that Mourinho had achieved incredible things in his career, and at this club in particular. But reading comments by Kablamo and Uxanga, among others, makes me wonder if i dreamt the whole thing?
He deserves far more respect from some fans on here than he gets. Yes he had a bad half a season, and yes he was at least partially responsible. But our form is still not exceptional under a new manager for the last 3 months. Yes we're performing better, but we're still dropping a lot of points through draws, if not defeats. Clearly the players shoulder a chunk of the blame, especially hazard.
But if people want to turn a blind eye to the fact that most of the players underperformed, and want to hurl abuse and criticism towards our ex-manager (triple premier league winning ex-manager) then so be it. But he deserves better
Would love to see Jose as England coach in place of Hodgson - think he could end that barren spell. That said, could the FA cope with the "circus"? You imagine if Jose had been Coach when Lampards "goal" that never was against Germany happened!!
International management might be a good option for Mourinho at the moment, I think getting the best players from one country together and coaching them to victory in a tournament, would very much play to his strengths, and would sooth his tortured ego.
I still can't get over it sadly. He should have stood up and fired Hazard, Costa and Fab to the reserves. They were a virus, that's why he couldn't get the room back. I bet he wishes he had now. And also kissed and made up with Eva wouldn't of hurt. I hope I get it back.... I am so gutted I didn't care JT got the equalizer the other day; I was nearly disappointed when he did. It would have all been different if had stood up and said screw you and played without them. I do wonder thou "IF" he had the choice!!!
We had our chance with Jose and we blew it. Not to mention that for him to come back in a year or 2, we would need an incredible squad overhaul. Cant imagine he'd be keen to link up with too many of our current squad again after what they did for him this year. Or, rather, didnt do for him.
Define decent. Not pro (and never had a chance to be pro), but about as decent as you can before making it pro. More below. Now I have to ask, have you ever worked a physically demanding job over long hours? Or do you imagine that pro-athletes are the only ones with physically demanding jobs?
First, not dry walling (done that, walk in the park compared to delivering it. Well atleast the company i worked for). No mental pressure? Clearly never worked the trades mate. They got deadlines, actual worries of job security and I can guarantee you that you don't want to compare work injuries because a broken leg is a good turnout for a bad situation, and often a worst case in football. Seen injuries that make Cech's life threatening accident look like a minor issue. Fun wondering if the guy(s) around you are sobered up from his nightly binge drinking because if they f**k up it could mean someones spending a long time in the hospital or worse. Then many wondering how the bills will get paid despite working 12 hours a day. Putting in those twelve hours because if you complain, you'll be watching the next guy in line take your pay cheque...but ya, that stress in football LOLOL Oh, and Im Canadian. So do all that on ice in freezing temperatures for over half the year.
That stress of a bad performance when locked into a contract that guarantees you million regardless of performance....wow, thats killer stuff right there. Now that you mention, amazed we dont see weekly heart attacks or mental collapses from all the stress. Wondering how you're going to budget your assistants annual salary (you know, one of the many guys that does all the non-football work in life for many of these footballers, many of said people the club employs and pays for them) when it's a fraction of your weekly wages, my mind crumbles just thinking about it. Poor guys.
Take your pick of Chelsea players who prove your "cannot afford to lose 5% theory" to be the joke it is. Many of them have dropped 50% or more. All are getting paid their full contract value.
So maybe you'll explain exactly why a Chelsea player can't afford those drops in performance that normal people usually pay for their jobs with, because I'm not seeing a single thing to substantiate that claim.
But if you're referring to why the players have been poor, because of how hard they worked, then I would direct your attention to the many BPL teams/ whose players have to go harder physically than Chelsea because they possesses less talent. Dont hear many of them complaining about it being too much... well Sterling aside. Plus certain other players thrived under Mourinho's "too much" methods. Won multiple league titles and cups. Absolutely dominated all before them. No one complained about it being too much, too demanding, and making them boil over. Funny how that works. Either their bodies work a lot differently OR perhaps they have different mentalities, just a possibility
Just from watching the games you can tell that Chelsea player's dont have the most grueling training regimes in the league. You think Leicester plays the way they do because they take it easy in training?
You think all the other BPL teams take it easy compared to Chelsea under Mourinho? You're deluding yourself and falling for the weak excuses of some sad excuses of professional athletes.
In terms of physical demands over a period of time, yes I did. Obviously Im not saying the tasks are the same, but physically demanding work is physically demanding work. I too would scoff at comparing the work of a pro-athlete with that of a manual laborer, thing is I know the manual labor route is often a lot more grueling.
Yes a pro-athlete is likely in better shape and able to perform better at sports. I'll freely admit that Hazard and maybe even Fabregas can do some physical feats I couldnt.... but I'd love to see Hazard of Fabregas spend a 12-14 hour day carrying loads of drywall that weigh over 100 lbs. Had a guy training to be a pro-westler quit after 2 days because it was too hard, he was twice my size in terms of muscle and Im not small guy.
And just like with the wrestler who couldn't carry drywall, when it comes to certain Chelsea players cries of too much demands, I know its a issue of mentality and not physical ability. It's not that they can't, its that they dont want too. Last season proved they were capable. It was too much and carried over to this season? LOL, Im no medical expert but I'm pretty confident that a body that's had time to get three stones over weight is a body thats had time to recover from the rigors of the previous season.
Again, how come the vast majority of players under Mourinho never had this issue? How, when its clear that most BPL clubs will train to a similar level if not more (again, teams with less talent tend to make up for it with extra phsyical work/rigorous team training), is it that only Chelsea has such a high rate of players who cant cope?
Never played pro, played at a university level and won what would be termed "state championships" and city championships at high school levels. I have, however, talked about this topic with professional athletes, relating to jobs on the farm in there youth or construction/manual labour jobs they had previous, and to a man they all were quite happy for the switch even if the pay inequalities were taken out of the equation. Now it was hockey and american football players (one of the people I am mentioning might be known to some here, Dwayne Johnson), don't know if their job is more of a physical demand than that of a european footballer lol (average NFL career is about 3 yeras long ladies and gentlemen. Thats proof of something being too much for the body)
But feel free to prove me wrong about where I said you rarely ear this from footballers who are serial winners or from players who genuinely are affectionate to the club/fans they play for.
My point is that anyone who actually believes that training under Mourinho was too much work is falling for the pathetic excuses of a professional who doesn't want to have to earn their living. That or they are just physically weaker than most of the players to succeed under Moruinho. I guess that is a possibility.
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