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So why did the big named players not performed to their potential? Fear of failure? Pressure from the media? What happened to the big names, where did they go? Rooney, Gerrard, Messi, Torres, Ronaldo, Eto et el.....

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I think there can be many reasons for players now performing to the standard we expect. I guess it's hard for some players to be brilliant when playing with players they don't usually play with. I think Spain has an advantage there because half the team play together in the league. They know eachother.

Maybe players would be better if they had more time with the national team.

Perhaps some players can't be good because they have the wrong manager? Or maybe they're tired after a long and hard season. Hard to say.

As for Rooney, I guess it's hard to be great when the rest of the team are crap. Not saying he's not to blame as well. Perhaps he cant perform on a big stage like this?

Messi might not have scored, but he hasn't been bad either. He has been a worry for many teams so far.

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going by the standard of long range free kicks especially, i'm sure the jabulani bears at least some responsibility. i've heard it described as "incredibly light, like one of those balls you'd buy at a petrol station". kick it hard as you would a "proper" football, and it just rises. there's an entirely different technique to kicking the jabulani, one that the Germans among others, have had half a season to master.

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going by the standard of long range free kicks especially, i'm sure the jabulani bears at least some responsibility. i've heard it described as "incredibly light, like one of those balls you'd buy at a petrol station". kick it hard as you would a "proper" football, and it just rises. there's an entirely different technique to kicking the jabulani, one that the Germans among others, have had half a season to master.

True, the ball really has screwed alot of things up.

I simply can't understand why it's so effing hard to create a ball that is good. They make a new one for every big tournament and lately all the balls have been bad. What's been said about the "Jabulani" was said about the ball for the last tournament as well (can't remember what strange name they gave it though).

Why not just take one of the old classic balls and use it. When I grew up we had that black and white ball and it was perfect.

Don't change something that is good!

But since they do, I really think it's odd that not more leagues have used the ball during the season to get used to it. The germans have used it all season (I think) and they've been brilliant so far.

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Bar Tevez/Suarez and the two Japense free kicks there really haven't been many goals that have came from free kicks or from distance...its very hard making a highlight reel of this World Cup as most of the goals haven't been very exciting.

Agree with previous posters that team mates have a large part in induvidual performances. Basically the German sqaud is Bayern Munich and Spain is Barca with a hint of Real Madrid. These countries will have an advantage in this field.

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True, the ball really has screwed alot of things up.

I simply can't understand why it's so effing hard to create a ball that is good. They make a new one for every big tournament and lately all the balls have been bad. What's been said about the "Jabulani" was said about the ball for the last tournament as well (can't remember what strange name they gave it though).

Why not just take one of the old classic balls and use it. When I grew up we had that black and white ball and it was perfect.

Don't change something that is good!

But since they do, I really think it's odd that not more leagues have used the ball during the season to get used to it. The germans have used it all season (I think) and they've been brilliant so far.

Clearly, the ball is a marketing tool, that allows the sponsors to make gobs of money on football sales. Kind of like Chelsea and all the other clubs making minor changes to their kits season to season, to force us dummys to fork out more money to purchase those new kits. Can't blame them too much for that, but I agree that the Jabulani ball is much different from the standard footballs used around the World, and that was just dumb. Also can't blame the various leagues for not using the ball, since why should they have to do something dumb just because FIFA has chosen that bad ball for the World Cup?

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Bar Tevez/Suarez and the two Japense free kicks there really haven't been many goals that have came from free kicks or from distance...its very hard making a highlight reel of this World Cup as most of the goals haven't been very exciting.

Agree with previous posters that team mates have a large part in induvidual performances. Basically the German sqaud is Bayern Munich and Spain is Barca with a hint of Real Madrid. These countries will have an advantage in this field.

Many in the german team also played together in the U21 team, so I guess that helps as well :)

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Too much time spent advertising sportsware, computer games, crisps, newspapers, hair gel, razors, interviews with fatty off Gavin and Stacey etc.........

Nike's advert looks like a piss poor campaign, bar a couple of Messi performances, not one of them showed up, and one (Ronaldinho) wasn't even seleted for the squad.

They've got to remember they're going there to play football, not sell the 'official' crisps of the World cup etc......

These advertising/sponsership demands elevate players to a level their football must maintain, if not, they're there to be shot down, and all the easier if they've drawn the attention to themselves.

I expect Rooney is growing his beard and moving into a caravan as I type...........as for Ronaldo's statue........*rolls eye's* - still, they all got the money for it so.....every cloud and all that.

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Clearly, the ball is a marketing tool, that allows the sponsors to make gobs of money on football sales. Kind of like Chelsea and all the other clubs making minor changes to their kits season to season, to force us dummys to fork out more money to purchase those new kits. Can't blame them too much for that, but I agree that the Jabulani ball is much different from the standard footballs used around the World, and that was just dumb. Also can't blame the various leagues for not using the ball, since why should they have to do something dumb just because FIFA has chosen that bad ball for the World Cup?

You're right, but a new kit usually doesn't affect the game much. That damn Jabulani ball, on the other hand, does.

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Too much time spent advertising sportsware, computer games, crisps, newspapers, hair gel, razors, interviews with fatty off Gavin and Stacey etc.........

Nike's advert looks like a piss poor campaign, bar a couple of Messi performances, not one of them showed up, and one (Ronaldinho) wasn't even seleted for the squad.

They've got to remember they're going there to play football, not sell the 'official' crisps of the World cup etc......

These advertising/sponsership demands elevate players to a level their football must maintain, if not, they're there to be shot down, and all the easier if they've drawn the attention to themselves.

I expect Rooney is growing his beard and moving into a caravan as I type...........as for Ronaldo's statue........*rolls eye's* - still, they all got the money for it so.....every cloud and all that.

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The ball is launched into the stands a little too often, and it seems like crosses are over hit more often than not, but there still have been plenty of good goals including two in the Uruguay-Ghana game, the first goal of the tournament , a long(ish) range Ozil goal, and a Slovakian goal against the U.S. to name a few.

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going by the standard of long range free kicks especially, i'm sure the jabulani bears at least some responsibility. i've heard it described as "incredibly light, like one of those balls you'd buy at a petrol station". kick it hard as you would a "proper" football, and it just rises. there's an entirely different technique to kicking the jabulani, one that the Germans among others, have had half a season to master.

We have used the Jabulani a few times at the five a sides I play and even at that 'cardiac waiting to happen' level of football there is a clear difference to the way it moves. Clearly at fives you don't notice things like how hard it is to take free kicks however the one thing we all noted was that it was far harder for goalkeepers than the usual ball we use as it moves a hell of a lat faster through the air meaning you have far less time to react to it. If punters like myself and the lads I play with found that happening then imagine how fast it must move when professionals hit t.

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