Zeta Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 Sick and tired of this now. Buck is nothing but a yes-man who the club wheel out in front of the cameras for PR purposes. Gourlay is a disgusting snake, his treatment of Carlo and his arrogance over RDM makes me sick. Roman either needs to stop meddling with things and let a manager have more control, or sell up and let someone who knows something about football take over.
Jonty Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 But what are the chances really of this happening? Once the waiter is out I hope the banners and chants are switched to them, if we bring in Mourinho or Klopp or someone of similar prestige and sack them within a year I think the fans are going to explode.
Las7 Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 Sick and tired of this now. Buck is nothing but a yes-man who the club wheel out in front of the cameras for PR purposes. Gourlay is a disgusting snake, his treatment of Carlo and his arrogance over RDM makes me sick. Roman either needs to stop meddling with things and let a manager have more control, or sell up and let someone who knows something about football take over. Spot on, they are the main culprits that got us in this mess, FSW is just the perfect scapegoat.
bluegraham Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 About time we starting pushing for the board to f**k off.
carrickblue Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 we need Rafa out, we need Jose or someone credible in and we need the Board to run the corporate affairs of the club and leave the selection and development of the playing staff to the manager and his team of professionals.
debauchery Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 what the hell does Michael Emenalo do? He can f**k off and all
Jezz Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) The club internally is a big mess. Our board is incompetent and knows as much about football as the next person. It's sickening the way they treat individuals and expect the fans to take it. I think during the Roman era, this has been our worst season so far. We sacked a manager for a terrible reason, and we appoint him with a s**t and overrated manager who isn't wanted by anyone except us. Roman - Please change your ways, or else consider selling the club for the good of this club. If you love them, you would realise that sacking managers doesn't help the club. You may have got away with it on previous occasions, but it's starting to catch up now. I'm grateful for the amount of money you've invested into the club, but the way you go about things are not right and are damaging our club. Gourlay - The biggest disgrace within the board. The moron thought sacking Carlo in the Goodison Park tunnel was a nice way to give someone their marching order, and as someone else said, his arrogance toward RDM was sickening. This man is full of s**t. Buck - He only sucks up to Roman most of the time, and what would he know about our club and its traditions. Emenalo - Took over Ray Wilkins' role as assistant coach in November 2010 and we haven't been the same club. Some of his transfers have been questionable as well. But what makes me really angry about Emenalo is the fact that it's been reported that he recommended Benitez even when RDM was still manager of Chelsea and Roman was reluctant to sign him up manager. Talk about going behind the manager's back. It turns out his recommendation has turned out to be a dismal failure. Edited March 8, 2013 by Jezz
Charlie C Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 People talk about managers like Klopp but why would someone wish to leave a safe steady job like that and take Chelsea on knowing that a few bad games and you are out with your reputation tarnished. The only people who want this job now are people who see it as a pay bonanza. We've moved into 'supply-manager' territory, I suspect the next advert will go in a temps agency. The Board need to know they are not off the hook once Benitez goes.
Scooby Blue Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 We really are at a crossroads now when it comes to appointing a new manager. Unless the policy in which the club operate changes drastically, we are just going to keep on going round in circles until eventually the options dry up, that's if they haven't already. Getting rid of Gourlay and co will only go so far. The way in which the club is run is still very much the same as it was when Roman first arrived. If Roman has any sense he needs to sack the shower of sh*t that currently consists of our board and start afresh with a whole new work ethic with people that actually know that running a football club is more than just about balancing the books. The old argument that they can just point at the trophy cabinet to prove the way they run things works is a complete load of rubbish. No doubt we've been blessed with silverware beyond many of our wildest dreams. However, 1 Premier League title in 7 years speaks volumes that the 'Sack 'em to take the club in the right direction blah blah blah' policy isn't quite all it's cracked up to be. I just hope they've learn't their lesson this time. Will things change? Hopefully, but I doubt it.
bluedrake55 Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 since the board all suck up to abramovich big time! i'm guessing they chose someone we hate to deflect the sh** that would of come abramovich's and their way! i reckon the only way jose will come back is to sack some on the board!
SydneyChelsea Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 We really are at a crossroads now when it comes to appointing a new manager. Unless the policy in which the club operate changes drastically, we are just going to keep on going round in circles until eventually the options dry up, that's if they haven't already. Getting rid of Gourlay and co will only go so far. The way in which the club is run is still very much the same as it was when Roman first arrived. If Roman has any sense he needs to sack the shower of sh*t that currently consists of our board and start afresh with a whole new work ethic with people that actually know that running a football club is more than just about balancing the books. The old argument that they can just point at the trophy cabinet to prove the way they run things works is a complete load of rubbish. No doubt we've been blessed with silverware beyond many of our wildest dreams. However, 1 Premier League title in 7 years speaks volumes that the 'Sack 'em to take the club in the right direction blah blah blah' policy isn't quite all it's cracked up to be. I just hope they've learn't their lesson this time. Will things change? Hopefully, but I doubt it. Probably one of the most important things Barcelona ever did was to bring a broom through the club and remove the previous board. Suddenly they had a team all pulling the same direction, with Guardiola the ex-player as a welcome figurehead.
axman2526 Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Board are their by the choice of Roman. Only way you get rid of them is if they quit, like Kenyon and Arnesen; or you get rid of Roman.
mjcreswick Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 In all seriousness, who would people want to replace these 3 muppets? People have spoken about Huddink coming in within some role when he retires from day to day management. As fantastic as this would be, I think we need more 'Chelsea' people running the club. I like others cant stand Buck or Gourlay, but who would we replace them with?
Carshalton Blue Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 The problem with having an owner like Roman is it makes it nire on impossible to have any sack the board demo's, what could we do have banners with "SACK THE BOARD BUT NOT ROMAN" on it. Its clear we have to have a major clear out from the suits at the top to the pitch, trouble is i cant see any of the suits being sacked, so that just leaves us with the hope they resign, but why would they when their on x amount of £1,000s a year. Look at Utd/City & how their run & their winning trophies, sometimes the actions of the suits at CFC are an embarrisement with the way they conduct themselves, i dont mean Roman as such as he never says anything but the P.R side of things are a joke, it'd never happen elsewhere, a bod at my work said the other day "you've gone from having bragging rights in London with the CL win to back to being a shambles in a matter of months, your like(CFC) a chav family who won the lottery & spent big but still have domestic rows in public" he's not exactly wrong either, of course we can still say we won the CL ect but at what cost, a fans favourite sacked after a few months & replaced with a hated rival, slandered a ref for racism & thats just since Aug!! Where will it end? what if we dont get JM back, then who? & what if he doesnt work out? back to square one, i'd like CFC to do what many have said, re-build & start again even if it means we dont win anything for a year or two but still make a CL place, look at Rooney & Ferdinand at Utd they've never won the fa cup but Utd re-build then still challenge for titles/CLs ect maybe because they keep the same boss, Arsenal dont win anything because they sell & dont spend big money, bet if Wenger was given silly money they'd at least challenge for the title ect, their not even doing that now & neither are we difference is we spend big but then sack managers every few months.
Chippy Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) People have come on here saying our anger towards Benitez is misplaced and its down to the Owner and his itchy trigger finger and I'll always answer that with my opinion that in my case, the anger towards Benitez is real and while I'm not using him as a scapegoat, I am prepared to agree that the problems should be laid at the feet of the Owner and his yes men. That said, I think the argument for sacking the Board although welcome enough for me is much more akin to scapegoating than the anger towards Benitez. If the 3 shirts we all love to hate were sacked tomorrow, the Owner has escaped the critisism he desrves and will appoint some more staff, these staff may or may not have more Football knowledge than those they replace but they will have the same Boss and that Boss is the man making these big and rash decisions, that Boss is the one that is used to getting everything he wants and having no thought for anyone trampled under foot when he gets it, he's the Man who's mere appearances at the training grojnd stir the press into a frenzy and the Man who ultimately makes the decisions not only on Managers careers but on player signings as well. Until he learns from his mistakes, until we stop blaming his admittedly uninspiring staff, until he learns respect, dignity and patience I think we will see this situation repeated on a regular basis, I fear we'll be waiting a long time. Repeated requests for those of us that lay blame at his feet to feel grateful for what he has given us and repeated anger generated closer and closer to the top without actually singling Abramovic out isn't going to change the way the Club is being run and isn't going to help us create stability or even a semblence of imporovement in our overall appearance as a top class Football Club. Abramovic for me would be best off coming out with a statement directed at the Fans, an apology for his arrogance and an explanation that he really has acted with what he thought was good intentions, then an assurance that he will bring in new staff/advisors and listen to them on any football related issues, maybe even a word on Robbie and what he done for us and an apology for not taking the fans feelings into concideration with the appointment of his latest and biggest mistake. I know this will never happen and for most a sacking of any of the board will show that Roman "loves the Club" and that member of staff was the reason everone got shat on and we became a laughing stock...for me, that again is papering over the fact that the Owner and his interfering has stopped his own money turning us into what he wanted us to be, one of the top top clubs in europe. I lay the blame at the Man who owns the Club and whos own arrogance has ruined his own plans regardless of the silverware we've picked up on the ride. Edited March 8, 2013 by Chippy
NoSeatingInTheShedInMyDay Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 People have come on here saying our anger towards Benitez is misplaced and its down to the Owner and his itchy trigger finger and I'll always answer that with my opinion that in my case, the anger towards Benitez is real and while I'm not using him as a scapegoat, I am prepared to agree that the problems should be laid at the feet of the Owner and his yes men. That said, I think the argument for sacking the Board although welcome enough for me is much more akin to scapegoating than the anger towards Benitez. If the 3 shirts we all love to hate were sacked tomorrow, the Owner has escaped the critisism he desrves and will appoint some more staff, these staff may or may not have more Football knowledge than those they replace but they will have the same Boss and that Boss is the man making these big and rash decisions, that Boss is the one that is used to getting everything he wants and having no thought for anyone trampled under foot when he gets it, he's the Man who's mere appearances at the training grojnd stir the press into a frenzy and the Man who ultimately makes the decisions not only on Managers careers but on player signings as well. Until he learns from his mistakes, until we stop blaming his admittedly uninspiring staff, until he learns respect, dignity and patience I think we will see this situation repeated on a regular basis, I fear we'll be waiting a long time. Repeated requests for those of us that lay blame at his feet to feel grateful for what he has given us and repeated anger generated closer and closer to the top without actually singling Abramovic out isn't going to change the way the Club is being run and isn't going to help us create stability or even a semblence of imporovement in our overall appearance as a top class Football Club. Abramovic for me would be best off coming out with a statement directed at the Fans, an apology for his arrogance and an explanation that he really has acted with what he thought was good intentions, then an assurance that he will bring in new staff/advisors and listen to them on any football related issues, maybe even a word on Robbie and what he done for us and an apology for not taking the fans feelings into concideration with the appointment of his latest and biggest mistake. I know this will never happen and for most a sacking of any of the board will show that Roman "loves the Club" and that member of staff was the reason everone got shat on and we became a laughing stock...for me, that again is papering over the fact that the Owner and his interfering has stopped his own money turning us into what he wanted us to be, one of the top top clubs in europe. I lay the blame at the Man who owns the Club and whos own arrogance has ruined his own plans regardless of the silverware we've picked up on the ride. ::clap2:: ::clap2:: Fantastic post, Chippy, spot on.
Zola Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 There is no point in demanding that Buck and Gourlay go without at least making a plea to Roman to change. Whether you want to believe it or not Roman has the last say, he is the boss and ultimately all the big decisions are on him. Gourlay and Buck do their roles and are just go along for the ride (I assume with minimal fuss), I would say the only thing they truly care about is seeing how long they can remain on that nice pay slip coming to them every month.
Uno Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Lets face it Roman loves his ego rubbed so only has yes men around him. Its not just to board its all the agents having their say as well.
Fast Eddie Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 In all seriousness, who would people want to replace these 3 muppets? People have spoken about Huddink coming in within some role when he retires from day to day management. As fantastic as this would be, I think we need more 'Chelsea' people running the club. I like others cant stand Buck or Gourlay, but who would we replace them with? Ha ha, million $ question, so much chatter about he's a c**t, he's a tosser, etc, but the 3 stooges are exactly that and may well be good at their jobs in a business respect and i've seen a bit of evidence on these pages to suggest that Emenalo may well be reasonable at his job but ultimately they are puppet men and the focus should be directed towards RA to be more Accountable.
kitierkatba Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 I agree with this 100% I'll provide the exact list of people that need to be fired. Some aren't actual employees but have Roman's ear. They need to be metaphorically fired from Roman's inner circle. Eugene Tanenbaum Bruce Buck Evgeny Shvidler (friend of Roman) Marina Granovskaia (Roman's personal assistant) Michael Emenalo Piet De Visser (Roman's personal scout) Vlado Lemic Pini Zahavi German Tkachenko Ron Gourlay Chris Alexander David Barnard Alan Shaw After that purge who should Chelsea hire? I'm not that knowledgeable about who the worlds best football executives are, but my one suggestion? Billy Beane. Baseball guy, bestselling book "Moneyball" written about him. He's also a huge soccer fan, worked with the San Jose Earthquakes to develop a player analysis system. Hire him, make him the general manager (whatever the european equivalent of that is) and let him make the decisions. He can hire assistants who can handle the nitty gritty, dollars and cents issues, provide encyclopedic knowledge of football players around the world. What Billy would bring is a new way of doing things while dumping dumb practices that exist because of tradition. The more and more I follow football I get the feeling Europe is still in the Dark Ages, in terms of sports analysis. I know some clubs like Liverpool are bringing more analytics (their owner is a sabermatrician after all) but we need someone with prestige and star power like Billy Beane to shake things up and give Chelsea an advantage, beyond Roman's money.
Fast Eddie Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) I agree with this 100% I'll provide the exact list of people that need to be fired. Some aren't actual employees but have Roman's ear. They need to be metaphorically fired from Roman's inner circle. Eugene Tanenbaum Bruce Buck Evgeny Shvidler (friend of Roman) Marina Granovskaia (Roman's personal assistant) Michael Emenalo Piet De Visser (Roman's personal scout) Vlado Lemic Pini Zahavi German Tkachenko Ron Gourlay Chris Alexander David Barnard Alan Shaw After that purge who should Chelsea hire? I'm not that knowledgeable about who the worlds best football executives are, but my one suggestion? Billy Beane. Baseball guy, bestselling book "Moneyball" written about him. He's also a huge soccer fan, worked with the San Jose Earthquakes to develop a player analysis system. Hire him, make him the general manager (whatever the european equivalent of that is) and let him make the decisions. He can hire assistants who can handle the nitty gritty, dollars and cents issues, provide encyclopedic knowledge of football players around the world. What Billy would bring is a new way of doing things while dumping dumb practices that exist because of tradition. The more and more I follow football I get the feeling Europe is still in the Dark Ages, in terms of sports analysis. I know some clubs like Liverpool are bringing more analytics (their owner is a sabermatrician after all) but we need someone with prestige and star power like Billy Beane to shake things up and give Chelsea an advantage, beyond Roman's money. Flippin hell mate you can't go naming and blaming Roman's P.A. for FSW/football matter or any other guilty by association unfortunate. Perhaps it's worth burning the witch down the road cause she lives on her own and owns a cat. Anyway, as for the baseball specialist watch him get slaughtered on that count at the next inquisition.. The Man City, Utd, Barcelona, Arsenal models are all successful and will reap long-term dividends but we will not when our club is run according to one man's whims. Micro-management is not the way forward and for all the chat on this board about Gourlay there are one or two insider reports that say that he has brought a degree of stability since taking over from Kenyon but there is only so much he can do as the ground constantly shifts beneath him.. Edited March 8, 2013 by Fast Eddie
Celery1989 Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 How about a banner along the East Upper advertising boards: Roman Abramovich: Is this what you want? That way he can't escape what we, the fans, think.
c3blu2 Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 The problem we as fans have with the current set up is accountability. Nobody knows who does what at the club, so when things are going wrong who's to blame? At the minute it all seems to come down to the manager which is a pretty sweet deal for people in the boardroom. They can all bask in our recent success and then sack the manager when results go the otherway. This is why we are starting to struggle getting a decent manager to take the job. The poor sod is'nt even responsible for buying and selling players yet will live or die by the squad he has to work with. If the boardroom are going to interfere with footballing matters beyond hiring a manager and giving him complete control then they should be just as accountable when things need changing.
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