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Maurizio Sarri Officially Appointed


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2 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Conte was backed.

Was he though.......we cheap shoted with average players for a lot of cash. Doesnt matter anyway, he is gone.

33 minutes ago, Argo said:

Not if he broke the terms of his contract he doesn't,

Really? Then why the f**k did we give him an improved contract right after his alleged absence? We Owe him his due, give him his sh*t and be done with all this mess we have brought ourselves.

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2 hours ago, atomis said:

Was he though.......we cheap shoted with average players for a lot of cash. Doesnt matter anyway, he is gone.

Really? Then why the f**k did we give him an improved contract right after his alleged absence? We Owe him his due, give him his sh*t and be done with all this mess we have brought ourselves.

Ill put this another way.

You own a business, your employer wins you a top contract with excellent work in his first 12 months working for you so understandably you want to reward him, he takes an unexplained ten day holiday, ok beyond taking the piss but for what's he done for your company you feel duty bound to give him a chance to make amends. However for the next year he's constantly moaning and moaning at you and about you, banging on about how sh*t his tools are (while the man you replace him with is getting a tune out of a lot of the same tools that were apparently useless) even though you are paying him a kings ransom to get the best out of what he's got while he can't be arsed to even try and made the confidence of some of your other staff so low they have all gone from assets to liability's.

Then after 10 months of that plus him telling anyone that will listen that you are basically a tosser and trying to set a stigma towards you and your company you finally have had enough and have told him where to go, only for him then to try and take you to court for a huge pay off, would you be so keen to "give him his sh*t and be done with it" then?

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18 hours ago, Argo said:

Ill put this another way.

You own a business, your employer wins you a top contract with excellent work in his first 12 months working for you so understandably you want to reward him, he takes an unexplained ten day holiday, ok beyond taking the piss but for what's he done for your company you feel duty bound to give him a chance to make amends. However for the next year he's constantly moaning and moaning at you and about you, banging on about how sh*t his tools are (while the man you replace him with is getting a tune out of a lot of the same tools that were apparently useless) even though you are paying him a kings ransom to get the best out of what he's got while he can't be arsed to even try and made the confidence of some of your other staff so low they have all gone from assets to liability's.

Then after 10 months of that plus him telling anyone that will listen that you are basically a tosser and trying to set a stigma towards you and your company you finally have had enough and have told him where to go, only for him then to try and take you to court for a huge pay off, would you be so keen to "give him his sh*t and be done with it" then?

Then the Club should have dealt with it sooner if he was such a child. No matter how petty Conte is, we did not do much better ourselves.......even now we refuse to give his pay because he was absent for a week? He is moaning? Take care of it then. No, we wait till the season after to sack him........did we do it after the FA cup? No, we waited till there was what 1-2weeks before the season started? Now he might be petty and all.....but we didnt do much better.

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2 minutes ago, Brutos said:

He absolutely knows we have problems and now he has to fix it
 

He and the board.
The club needs to step up and invest. We aren't going to win anything with Morata up front and only one top class attacker in Hazard.
Same goes for the defence, both fullbacks need to be replaced and we need a CB to play alongside Rudiger.
We also need some top class player in midfield that have goal and assists in him.

 

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11 minutes ago, Sindre said:

He and the board.
The club needs to step up and invest. We aren't going to win anything with Morata up front and only one top class attacker in Hazard.
Same goes for the defence, both fullbacks need to be replaced and we need a CB to play alongside Rudiger.
We also need some top class player in midfield that have goal and assists in him.

 

Watch it now mate....or you might be labled spoilt.....eventhough you are spot on.

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Sarri isn't exactly convincing me that he isn't a one trick pony, you can never really say how Spurs will setup tactically sometimes they're 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-1-1 diamond or 3 at the back. The reason Spurs have been winning games despite not being at their best is because they adapt and have the advantage of unpredictability. With Sarri it's the same every week, it was only a matter of time before an opponent with quality figured us out. We may blow so called "lesser opposition" away playing the way we do but City, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal are also blowing them away, as it stands I'm still not convinced we'll finish top 4.

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1 minute ago, the special one said:

Sarri isn't exactly convincing me that he isn't a one trick pony, you can never really say how Spurs will setup tactically sometimes they're 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-1-1 diamond or 3 at the back. The reason Spurs have been winning games despite not being at their best is because they adapt and have the advantage of unpredictability. With Sarri it's the same every week, it was only a matter of time before an opponent with quality figured us out. We may blow so called "lesser opposition" away playing the way we do but City, Liverpool and Spurs are also blowing them away, as it stands I'm still not convinced we'll finish top 4.

If we don't finish top 4 he will get sacked most likely and then we will bring Frankie and win the league, I would guess.

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Well at least he was honest to identify the fact we have problems...many of which he has created himself with bad selections and players playing out of position.  Today having identified early on that Spurs were not going to set up as usual, he did nothing to adapt or change the system we were playing.  If this was Jose, he would have made substitutes early on and changed the system.  Its' no secret that once our playmaker is nullified we are screwed, fans have been saying this for a few weeks...so knowing that, where is plan B?  I think what compounded the problem was that the defence as bad as it was today were constantly exposed with no cover in front of them; Sarri has created that problem by taking the worlds best defensive midfielder, Kante, and trying to convert him as a semi- attacking midfielder in order to accommodate his prodigal son, yet he offers nothing defensively, and he hasn't done so for several weeks....time for a shake-up and some serious soul searching about who has the heart and desire to play in this team as well as the talent and price tag.  And the manager needs to have a reality check trying to play his system with the players we currently have, especially in the middle of the park where today we were seriously overrun and out fought.

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With such a drastic change of style these type of results in season one were inevitable, even Pep couldn't avoid it at City and he had a lot of the building blocks built for him.

I really can't understand why he is persisting with Morata and Willian over Giroud and Pedro though and it was the starting block towards what went wrong today, ignoring the difference the latter two bring to the attack they press intelligently allowing us to cut passing lanes and win the ball back high up, Morata can't be arsed to press and Willian while he tries doesn't have the positional sense Pedro does and ends up chasing like a dog running after a tennis ball (there's a reason Conte played anyone but him at WB whenever Moses was out). Until we get better options those Pedro and Olivier must be the starters alongside Hazard.

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We knew Sarri needed time when he came. What has changed? This isn't his team, and some of the players in the system (notably the full backs) aren't suited to the system. If the board don't want to invest in January and next summer, then don't expect to challenge for more than top four. I think most would agree we've started the season better than we ever thought it would be. 

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2 minutes ago, Argo said:

With such a drastic change of style these type of results in season one were inevitable, even Pep couldn't avoid it at City and he had a lot of the building blocks built for him.

I really can't understand why he is persisting with Morata and Willian over Giroud and Pedro though and it was the starting block towards what went wrong today, ignoring the difference the latter two bring to the attack they press intelligently allowing us to cut passing lanes and win the ball back high up, Morata can't be arsed to press and Willian while he tries doesn't have the positional sense Pedro does and ends up chasing like a dog running after a tennis ball (there's a reason Conte played anyone but him at WB whenever Moses was out). Until we get better options those Pedro and Olivier must be the starters alongside Hazard.

Because as soon as he does play them and neither play well, people start saying "Morata and Willian should have started instead" the simple truth is, only Pedro is suited to the style and good enough to be in the team. Morata and Giroud are inconsistent at the best of times, and Willian is just a massive let down. 

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6 minutes ago, enigma said:

Because as soon as he does play them and neither play well, people start saying "Morata and Willian should have started instead" the simple truth is, only Pedro is suited to the style and good enough to be in the team. Morata and Giroud are inconsistent at the best of times, and Willian is just a massive let down. 

Giroud needs to be upgraded asap but atleast he has Hazard and Pedro feeding off him and benefiting from his play, the one thing Morata had was his movement and even that's going down the sh*tter, how many times is he getting caught off?

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Ironically, on the day we've just been humbled by our biggest rivals and lost our first game of the season, I admire him more than ever. He is doing a very decent job with a squad that has some talent, but absolute dross in some of the most important areas of the pitch. We have a pathetic excuse of a centre-forward who was never taught the offside rule, a right winger with zero end product and a worrying lack of consistency, a centre back who is either 10/10 or 2/10 and a painfully, painfully slow left back. There is promise in this team though and our decent start has given us good foundations for a possible top four finish, which will give us a much better chance of competing for the title next season (which I think we'll be in with a very good chance of winning). 

Should have taken Kovacic off though after he attempted a rabona cross whilst 2-0 down, bad day at the office for everyone 

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He's been warning us for a while now this team is not ready yet, and last night showed. Not sure there are much he could have done, individual mistakes got us to 2:0, and some players are just not good enough to beat the aggressive pressing. There are things he needs to fixed, most urgently where to play Jorginho and Kante, one couldn't defend and the others didn't look comfortable playing higher up the field, needs some bite in that midfield, lots of passing not enough final products.

Of course he should be backed, anyone really surprised we finally lost a game in November?

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10 hours ago, brownindian said:

This is the second game in a row when Sarris system failed when Jogjinho was neutralized by man marking.  IBadly want to see some tactical flexibility demonstrated by Sarri.

tbf, it's not that the system fails us, it's Jorginho. I believe Cesc is much better and faster when they put him on pressure. He also gives better one touch passes and most importantly - long passes. I've failed to see some good long passes by the Italian. 

Not that Cesc is perfect, but Jorginho is particularly bad with the high press. 

We can't play all the time on the ground, we all know that, and our long balling has sucked recently - Luiz few balls a game, Rudi once or twice, and that's it. Jorginho is lacking this feature in his game and we suffer. He doesn't deliver assists and passes behind the back of the opponent.

time to bring Cesc in. 

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tbf, it's not that the system fails us, it's Jorginho. I believe Cesc is much better and faster when they put him on pressure. He also gives better one touch passes and most importantly - long passes. I've failed to see some good long passes by the Italian. 

Not that Cesc is perfect, but Jorginho is particularly bad with the high press. 

We can't play all the time on the ground, we all know that, and our long balling has sucked recently - Luiz few balls a game, Rudi once or twice, and that's it. Jorginho is lacking this feature in his game and we suffer. He doesn't deliver assists and passes behind the back of the opponent.

time to bring Cesc in. 

Jorginho is not the problem it's the player's around him not fulfilling the requirements of the system to offer him options. When he gets on the ball in the last few games player's are not offering any movement they are running away from the ball not towards it, no pass and move to create space to nullify the press. Look at how Napoli played when they got the ball jorginho had options they would pass the ball in short triangle to beat the press we are not doing that the player's seem scared, afriad Conte mentioned this several times they seem scared. Also player's showed no fight no grit no passion like it was just another game yesterday, there comes a time when we need to start changing the sqaud slowly. Unfortunately we can't spend like city so we will have to do something different

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