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26 minutes ago, evissy said:

I read an article a few years back where they broke down the finances of major clubs. Matchday revenue was practically nothing compared to TV deals, licencing deals, merchandise etc. So to all you SB spectators: you are not that important emoji23.pngemoji16.pngemoji6.png.

And there you have modern Football in a nutshell, football was ruined soon as Sky TV got its grubby little hands on it

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2 hours ago, evissy said:

Olympics, Euro's and Worlds are more of a spectator-events. Chelsea for example can live without the live crowd financially I mean. Prem is 70% done and that is why everyone wants to finish it. Who is the champ, who is promoted/relegated... Not comparable IMO.

And yet the atheletes and associations are entirely financially reliable on these championships to continue to exist, much more than the premier league finishing this season is.

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2 hours ago, evissy said:

Olympics, Euro's and Worlds are more of a spectator-events. Chelsea for example can live without the live crowd financially I mean. Prem is 70% done and that is why everyone wants to finish it. Who is the champ, who is promoted/relegated... Not comparable IMO.

And watching football isn't a spectator event? Yes, the money that PL clubs make from gate receipts is only a small percentage of annual monies received and they may survive without fans attending matches. A few things: the atmosphere would be poor and broadcasters and sponsors wouldn't be happy with that. The club shops would also miss out on fans spending money in the club shops. And what about those fans who watch games via TV or the internet: are they spectators or not?

I don't know how many people attend events at both the Olympics and Paralympics but several tens of millions must watch the game on TV. @dkwAs you rightly say competitors and organisations are heavily dependent on monies received via the Olympics and Paralympics. 

You say everyone wants the season to finish. Is that correct? There are people on here - myself included - that don't want the season to be completed. I've been in contact with those I go to the games with and none of them is desperate for the season to restart.

 

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1 minute ago, Boyne said:

And watching football isn't a spectator event? Yes, the money that PL clubs make from gate receipts is only a small percentage of annual monies received and they may survive without fans attending matches. A few things: the atmosphere would be poor and broadcasters and sponsors wouldn't be happy with that. The club shops would also miss out on fans spending money in the club shops. And what about those fans who watch games via TV or the internet: are they spectators or not?

I don't know how many people attend events at both the Olympics and Paralympics but several tens of millions must watch the game on TV. @dkwAs you rightly say competitors and organisations are heavily dependent on monies received via the Olympics and Paralympics. 

You say everyone wants the season to finish. Is that correct? There are people on here - myself included - that don't want the season to be completed. I've been in contact with those I go to the games with and none of them is desperate for the season to restart.

 

I know more people who either don`t want the season to carry on or don`t care than do what it to carry on. Literally the only fans who do that I know are Liverpool fans, everyone else does`nt give a sh*t.

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I am not saying fans in the stands are not needed. Just saying financially not as much as people might think. The atmosphere is naturally a huge thing among other things...

If it is safe I would like to see some football. Only if it is safe.

You are not interested. Fine. I bet when the whistle goes in a Premier League game for Chelsea you are pumped up.

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I wonder how this is going to affect next season. If players finish all competitions in August, and next season starts in September, there's going to be a dip much before Christmas, and the tight schedule on that period is going to be a killer. This only makes sense for the economic powers that finance the PL. It doesn't make sense to us match-going fans, it doesn't make sense for the footballers, it doesn't make much sense for the Clubs either, who some are risking injuries to their players and relegations that may be questioned given the expected dip in form after such a long break.

I'm not interested at all in how this season ends, and find it highly unfair to complete it during summer time just for the sake of finances of some. I look forward to football once we are allowed back to stadiums.

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Just feels like they don’t want Liverpool to miss out on their first title in decades. Restarting isn’t going to deliver a fair set of results, and as people above have said it’s going to screw up the start of next season. They should just give the scousers a trophy to shut them up and wrap it all for the season.

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54 minutes ago, Kentonio said:

Just feels like they don’t want Liverpool to miss out on their first title in decades. Restarting isn’t going to deliver a fair set of results, and as people above have said it’s going to screw up the start of next season. They should just give the scousers a trophy to shut them up and wrap it all for the season.

Its nothing to do with that mate, its all about the betting industry, the government want their taxes from them, the EPL want their sponsorship payments from them, the clubs want their shirt sponsors payments from them ..half of Premier League clubs have gambling sponsors for 2019-20 season https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/19/half-of-premier-league-clubs-to-have-gambling-sponsors-for-201920

That's why horse racing came back first, and Cheltenham festival pushed back the lock down announcement, all that gambling money, 12 weeks worth, has been sat in peoples banks, online shopping has gone through the roof, its like christmas everyday for online retailers, because punters money isnt going to the bookies.

Thats my take on it, money talks, lots of money shouts and gets its own way.

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9 hours ago, dkw said:

I know more people who either don`t want the season to carry on or don`t care than do what it to carry on. Literally the only fans who do that I know are Liverpool fans, everyone else does`nt give a sh*t.

9 of us that go, are all season ticket holders, none of us think season should finish, and want it to finish, it should of been voided weeks and weeks ago, and then, proper planning and thought gone into the new season, with this and VAR,  football I hope, (the premier League) will receive a huge nose bleed. 

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18 minutes ago, coco said:

Its nothing to do with that mate, its all about the betting industry, the government want their taxes from them, the EPL want their sponsorship payments from them, the clubs want their shirt sponsors payments from them ..half of Premier League clubs have gambling sponsors for 2019-20 season https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/19/half-of-premier-league-clubs-to-have-gambling-sponsors-for-201920

That's why horse racing came back first, and Cheltenham festival pushed back the lock down announcement, all that gambling money, 12 weeks worth, has been sat in peoples banks, online shopping has gone through the roof, its like christmas everyday for online retailers, because punters money isnt going to the bookies.

Thats my take on it, money talks, lots of money shouts and gets its own way.

The betting industry has been affected but if you're a committed gambler there's ways to have a bet online virtual racing, bingo, poker, blackjack etc. Bookies are empty most of the time the betting machines are there lifeblood if they hadn't been brought in loads of high street bookies would have shut instead of striving. Racing came back first but the bookies will be shut for another two weeks so all bets will be online there's been random sports like badmington and table tennis in the far east you could have had a bet on since lockdown.

Football will be getting a lot of pressure from far bigger companies than Fun88 who sponsor Newcastle and are based in the Isle of Man. If football restarts companies like McDonalds, Coca Cola, all the major phone and broadband companies will be able to have there logos plastered all over the ground with no fans getting in the way and they'll have those really annoying ones that move and your eyes are drawn to them

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So season ticket holders and people who don't want to see Liverpool win the title are against the restart. Understandable really. [emoji16]

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2 hours ago, bisright1 said:

I am just frustrated that next season will undeniably be affected.

On the bright side, we get to see Ziyech play for us this season!

Can we register the new players with the PL? If that is so, which I doubt, that would add even more bias to this season as the teams competing would be reinforcing without a proper transfer window.

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44 minutes ago, RMH said:

Can we register the new players with the PL? If that is so, which I doubt, that would add even more bias to this season as the teams competing would be reinforcing without a proper transfer window.

I doubt it, the transfer windows arent actually transfer windows, they are registration windows, you can only register players with your FA during those times. You can actually buy players whenever you want, like we did with Ziyech.

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28 minutes ago, dkw said:

I doubt it, the transfer windows arent actually transfer windows, they are registration windows, you can only register players with your FA during those times. You can actually buy players whenever you want, like we did with Ziyech.

Yes, that makes sense to me, but maybe bisrigth1 had read somewhere we could play Ziyech this season...

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I can't see it happening because Man.United will get in a pissy but in my opinion Zyiech should get special dispensation to be registered to play, especially if we lose Willian and/or Pedro.

Yes it's not an usual procedure but this isn't usual times and there's the player himself to think of aswell, with next season looking likely to start in September he's lost six months of his prime if he can't play till then.

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Another twist in the fiasco. The Premier League etc couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52913164

Premier League clubs will have their most thorough discussion to date about what should happen if the season is curtailed at their latest meeting on Thursday.

All clubs will be given a say in a detailed debate over how to finalise the league table if the season cannot be completed, though it is widely expected that relegation will not be scrapped.

A fixture list for the first few rounds of the rebooted season are also due to be confirmed, along with kick-off times and broadcast plans, though it is understood there will be some leeway for clubs to offer feedback.

The opening two matches are due to be played on 17 June, with a full round of fixtures that weekend.

Matchday operations and return-to-play protocols will also be presented, with clubs told that breaches of the strict biosecurity requirements would incur sanctions.

The number of people allowed inside the stadium during a match will need to be limited to about 300, according to documents sent to clubs.

Premier League chief executive Richard Masters has told BBC Sport that the scrapping of relegation if the season has to be cancelled due to a second wave of coronavirus cases was "a significant topic" and would need to be debated by the clubs.

Some clubs are known to want relegation discarded this season. However, 14 clubs would need to back such a move for it to be adopted, and the Football Association has said it will oppose the idea. The governing body has a decisive 'golden share' in any vote.

Premier League bosses are desperate to complete the season by the end of next month to avoid the risk of increased rebate payments to broadcasters, and want to avoid any delays because of disagreements over curtailment.

A vote on the matter may not take place until a subsequent meeting.

After weeks of discussions around the proposal to use neutral venues, BBC Sport understands that virtually all of the remaining 92 matches will be played at home and away grounds.

But Premier League bosses will outline how they will need to identify pre-agreed neutral venues for each region as part of contingency planning in case of local spikes in coronavirus cases.

The use of neutral venues would require a rule change, so clubs will need to vote on this matter.

Various 'enhancements' to the broadcasting of matches are also due to be discussed at Thursday's meeting, including the possibility of camera access to dressing rooms, although that is understood to be unlikely.

The Premier League is expected to offer a centralised plan for including fans in some way.

European football clubs have used different methods to engage fans, with fans of Danish Superliga side AGF Aarhus appearing via video link on a virtual grandstand during last weekend's derby match against Randers.

Cardboard cut-outs of fans have also been considered by clubs, but the use of the existing big screens might prove the most feasible and least costly option.

The Premier League's plan to restart on 17 June received a boost on Wednesday, with just one positive test in the latest batch of testing.

The singular case, from 1,197 players and staff members tested, came from Tottenham.

But because of carefully planned drills and physio sessions being limited to 15-minute windows, it is not thought anyone else will need to isolate.

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Received an email earlier from the club about this season and next season's season tickets. There are three options as regards refunds etc. Extract from the email below.

It is with regret that we are unable to conclude the final matches of the 2019/20 season with our supporters in attendance. Home season ticket holders therefore have a choice of being able to receive an automatic credit towards next season’s season ticket, claim a pro-rata refund for the remaining 2019/20 matches or donate the full amount to charity via the Chelsea FC Foundation.

We have received many requests from our fans to make it possible to donate the outstanding money to important causes at this difficult time, and we have made that easy to do through a simple form with Refuge, NHS Charities Together and Plan International the charities to benefit.

The club currently has a programme matching contributions made to Refuge and that programme will apply to these donations.

You have three choices:

Option 1: Supporters who wish to receive a credit towards their 2020/21 season ticket do not need to do anything as the credit will be applied automatically to the season ticket renewal. That is unless you choose one of the other two options.

Option 2: Supporters who wish to receive a refund for the remaining matches will need to log into the club’s ticket exchange and select REFUND. Refunds will be issued to the payment card used to purchase the season ticket. Should the payment card fail we will refund supporters via bank transfer.

Supporters who paid via V12 finance or cash will be refunded via bank transfer. Supporters who are being refunded by bank transfer and have not previously used the ticket exchange and therefore not submitted bank details before, will need to add any of those missing details. The refunds are expected to be completed by 31 July.

Option 3: Supporters who wish to donate the full credit amount to Refuge, NHS Charities Together or Plan International will need to complete the online form which can be accessed by clicking here. The club will donate the full amount to the chosen charity on your behalf and will match any donation made to Refuge. There is the option to split the donation equally between the three charities. Information on the charities is below.

If you wish to donate an amount different from the full credit you can do so by making an individual payment via the Chelsea FC Foundation’s Just Giving page.

Indicate which charity you would like to donate to in the ‘your message’ box. If you leave this blank we will split your donation equally between the three charities.

There is a deadline of 5pm Friday 19 June to select the refund or charity donation option. After this date credits will be automatically issued towards 2020/21 season tickets.

Below is a table showing the amount of money available per season ticket in each area of the stadium

 
Money available per ticket in each area

The price per game is the season ticket cost divided by 19 Premier League matches. With four home matches remaining, the total credit amount is shown above.

Season ticket and membership renewals for the 2020/21 season are not yet available but we will contact each supporter when we have further information.

We would like to thank you for your continued support.

Chelsea Football Club

 

CHARITY DETAILS

Refuge
Refuge provides a national network of specialist services which support around 6,500 women and children every day suffering from domestic abuse, including emergency accommodation, community outreach, independent domestic violence advocacy, culturally specific services and a team of child support workers.

All donations to Refuge will be matched in amount by Chelsea Football Club.

NHS Charities Together
NHS Charities Together is the umbrella organisation for the NHS' official charities in the UK. NHS charities provide extra vital funds and services to NHS hospitals, ambulances, mental and community health trusts and health boards. This funding is above and beyond what the government provides and is spent on enhancing care and experience of patients.

Plan International
Plan International – our global charity partner – works in over 75 countries and is currently responding to the effects of coronavirus around the world. The crisis is having a devastating impact on family lives all over the world, and for children in the world’s most vulnerable communities the challenge could not be greater.

From Cameroon to Cambodia, the charity is providing access to hygiene kits and clean water so people can safely wash their hands, and is raising awareness of the dangers of coronavirus and how to prevent an outbreak in their communities. Plan is also scaling up its work in refugee camps where families live in crowded conditions without access to soap and running water. For most, self-isolation simply is not an option.

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1 hour ago, Boyne said:

Changes to the rules about substitutes for the rest of this season

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2020/06/04/premier-league-announces-substitute-rule-change

That's a big NO for me. You cannot change the rules part way through the season. It undermines the whole integrity of the competition for everyone. If they want to introduce new rules from next season then fine, but you have to finish a season with the same rules that you started it with as far as I'm concerned.

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Clearly teams with bigger and better squads now have an advantage they didn't have earlier in the Season, having five subs will give those managers greater tactical  options and flexibility. In the past it was not unheard of for matches to finish with 'no more subs available' to the manager - with five subs that's extremely unlikely to happen, which also changes the game dynamic as well. We all know how crucial the last 5 or 10 minutes of a match can be. In addition there are now more opportunities for time wasting, sending on subs to run down the clock.

 

If it goes ahead (as looks likely) the season's a dud for me.

Edited by fitz

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On 04/06/2020 at 15:54, fitz said:

That's a big NO for me. You cannot change the rules part way through the season. It undermines the whole integrity of the competition for everyone. If they want to introduce new rules from next season then fine, but you have to finish a season with the same rules that you started it with as far as I'm concerned.

Completely agree. Same goes for ditching VAR, we’ve had it for 3/4 of the season so ditching it for the last few games is just stupid!

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