West Ham v Chelsea (PL) Sun 20th Aug 2023 16:30 GMT

[coco]

[Sconnie Blue]

Potential banana skin. 

Sanchez

James Silva Colwill Chilwell

Caicedo

Gallagher  Enzo 

Sterling                  Mudryk

Jackson

[Sconnie Blue]

*Edit 

Maybe Disasi for Silva to handle the pace of Antonio. 

[The Rising Sun]

17 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

*Edit 

Maybe Disasi for Silva to handle the pace of Antonio. 

The f**kers seem to have something over us lately. 

I'll never forget Lampards goal against them , Terry winding them up while warming up as a sub and celebrating together in front of their fans 🤣🤣🤣

[dermott]

Colwill to handle the pace of Antonio.

[Sconnie Blue]

1 minute ago, dermott said:

Colwill to handle the pace of Antonio.

Rather Gallagher and Caicedo harass their midfield before it even gets to him. 

[dermott]

Fair enough. Antonio also runs out of puff these days. Bowen is the slippery one.

[Gordon Bennett]

Back 4 for this one with Enzo spraying the ball around and Caicedo breaking it up, and both of them mixing it up. Gallagher gets the AM role to harass their combative Mexican DM and to cover for Enzo defensively if required. Mudryk and Raheem on the wings and Wacko Jacko up front. 

 

Probably completely wrong but never mind.

[Mod]

2 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

Terry winding them up while warming up as a sub..

I remember that, he went over and was bending down arse up doing stretches!

[Jezq8]

Could be tricky but let’s see how poch sets up 

I would go with 

sanchez

james silva colwill chilly

 Enzo caicedo 

sterling chuka mudryk 

Jackson 

 

[PhilH930]

Feels like a damn banana skin to me on the back of an amazing few days.  Come on Chelsea - dominate them!

Am a bit concerned where the goals will come from, but lets go!!!!

[axman2526]

Sanchez

 

James

Disasi

Colwill

Chilwell

 

Caicedo

Lavia

 

Madueke 

Enzo

Mudryk 

 

Jackson

[True Blue23]

42 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Sanchez

 

James

Disasi

Colwill

Chilwell

 

Caicedo

Lavia

 

Madueke 

Enzo

Mudryk 

 

Jackson

Come on now... Sterling did quite well yesterday and Madueke hasn't even seen a minute of game time in Pre Season due to injury. It's a no brainer who starts out of those two. I also think it will be too early for Lavia, if we really get him in. I'd have Conor or Carney instead. I'd also swap Disasi for Silva, but apart from that I'm with you.

[ozboy]

I think Carney should remain at no 10. He has been consistently creative on precseason and did much better than this forum recognizes against Liverpool after the first 15 minutes. 

[The Don Antonio]

I think it will the same line up like against Liverpool with the difference being caicedo for chukwuemeka and Gallagher moving into chukwuemekas spot

[axman2526]

4 hours ago, True Blue23 said:

Come on now... Sterling did quite well yesterday and Madueke hasn't even seen a minute of game time in Pre Season due to injury. It's a no brainer who starts out of those two. I also think it will be too early for Lavia, if we really get him in. I'd have Conor or Carney instead. I'd also swap Disasi for Silva, but apart from that I'm with you.

I'd take a half fit Madueke over Sterling mate.

[True Blue23]

5 hours ago, axman2526 said:

I'd take a half fit Madueke over Sterling mate.

Which is just stupid, irrational dislike towards one of our players. Is Sterling still his prime City version? No definetely not. Is he setting the world alight and justifying his salary? Also a no on that front. But he's not as terrible as some are making him out to be. He was our most productive attacker last season in a crap team, and while he hasn't had a particularly good Pre Season (who cares about Pre Season anyways?) he was decent against Liverpool, linking up well with James and creating danger down that right flank.

Compare that to Madueke who in his whole Chelsea career while having shown some promise, has done little more than that. There has been very little end product. I'm not knocking him, he's young and came to a new team that played awful and managed to be a bright spark. But he hasn't done enough to deserve to be thrown right in after injuries over Sterling. Also with injured players who've missed Pre Season, it's usually better to ease them in with a few substituete appearances first, to get the fitness levels up. Otherwise there's a danger of reinjury. And surely you don't want that, as we'd be stuck with Sterling again...

Regarding Sterling, as I've written above, he's not in his prime anymore, but I think he could have a vital part to play this season. He's one of few players in this team with a history of scoring goals. His knack of arriving at the far post could come in handy for us. He's also one of few experienced heads in the team and a serial winner. Let's hope he can have a Pedroesque impact this season, who also had a difficult first season in a disastrous overall season for us, but then helped us a lot with his directness and mentality.

[KonaKai Blue]

Really important to make a statement win here after failing to beat Liverpool at home. Failure to secure victory will bring us down to earth and the critics will rightfully be out after the money we have spent. If we cannot beat West Ham away, then every other game bar Luton is a toss up. No excuses.

[Gol15]

We should go to a back 4 formation and play more risky, it will pay off in the end.

[Gordon Bennett]

Hopefully Tricky Mykky gets some game time

[cfr95]

Their main threat is likely to be from set-pieces, so I wouldn't be opposed to Disasi playing again to give us some more height and strength.

Colwill LB and Chilwell LM worked nicely when they settled into it on Sunday, but I don't think I'd start like that this weekend. Could be an option for later in the game if we want to shut up shop.

I'm sure I'll change my mind a dozen times between now and Sunday, but as of right now I would go with the following:

             Sanchez

James, Disasi, Silva, Chilwell
       Caicedo, Enzo
Sterling, Gallagher, Mudryk
           Jackson


(I hope that's formatted properly)

[dermott]

43 minutes ago, cfr95 said:

Their main threat is likely to be from set-pieces, so I wouldn't be opposed to Disasi playing again to give us some more height and strength.

Colwill LB and Chilwell LM worked nicely when they settled into it on Sunday, but I don't think I'd start like that this weekend. Could be an option for later in the game if we want to shut up shop.

I'm sure I'll change my mind a dozen times between now and Sunday, but as of right now I would go with the following:

             Sanchez

James, Disasi, Silva, Chilwell
       Caicedo, Enzo
Sterling, Gallagher, Mudryk
           Jackson


(I hope that's formatted properly)

Back 4 playing a very high line but, that aside, nicely formatted. 

[cfr95]

24 minutes ago, dermott said:

Back 4 playing a very high line but, that aside, nicely formatted. 

Good point, Silva could well get exposed if we adopt that exact shape!

[ozboy]

2 hours ago, True Blue23 said:

Which is just stupid, irrational dislike towards one of our players. Is Sterling still his prime City version? No definetely not. Is he setting the world alight and justifying his salary? Also a no on that front. But he's not as terrible as some are making him out to be. He was our most productive attacker last season in a crap team, and while he hasn't had a particularly good Pre Season (who cares about Pre Season anyways?) he was decent against Liverpool, linking up well with James and creating danger down that right flank.

Compare that to Madueke who in his whole Chelsea career while having shown some promise, has done little more than that. There has been very little end product. I'm not knocking him, he's young and came to a new team that played awful and managed to be a bright spark. But he hasn't done enough to deserve to be thrown right in after injuries over Sterling. Also with injured players who've missed Pre Season, it's usually better to ease them in with a few substituete appearances first, to get the fitness levels up. Otherwise there's a danger of reinjury. And surely you don't want that, as we'd be stuck with Sterling again...

Regarding Sterling, as I've written above, he's not in his prime anymore, but I think he could have a vital part to play this season. He's one of few players in this team with a history of scoring goals. His knack of arriving at the far post could come in handy for us. He's also one of few experienced heads in the team and a serial winner. Let's hope he can have a Pedroesque impact this season, who also had a difficult first season in a disastrous overall season for us, but then helped us a lot with his directness and mentality.

Excellent post. Stirling is  obviously already developing a good partnership with Reece. His knowledge of what it means to be a winner is an asset.  He isn’t a 90 minute player anymore, but them]n neither was Kovacic. Madueke was not even yet a regular starter in the Eredivisie. Also his injury record is already poor.  Madueke goals and assists are ok for a young player in Holland but they are far from exceptional. 
 

anyhow we all have our own views. 
 

 

[CFCCAN]

19 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Potential banana skin. 

Sanchez

James Silva Colwill Chilwell

Caicedo

Gallagher  Enzo 

Sterling                  Mudryk

Jackson

I'd agree a few years ago. We've cleaned out the closet and the bad attitude and negativity.  Based on last week, things look positive.  I think three points is a very good possibility and will provide another major boost for the kids confidence.