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Difference between Barkley and RLC imho is that every now and then Barkley can score a worldie, something I'm yet to see from RLC.

 
the special one said:
Difference between Barkley and RLC imho is that every now and then Barkley can score a worldie, something I'm yet to see from RLC.
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I don't know. Over the course of 38 games, Barkley has only a handful of those moments whilst RLC is still a developing 21yr old.

If it was me, I'd rather take a punt on the younger wild card. Barkley for me lacks in footballing IQ.

 
Deino said:
I don't know. Over the course of 38 games, Barkley has only a handful of those moments whilst RLC is still a developing 21yr old.

If it was me, I'd rather take a punt on the younger wild card. Barkley for me lacks in footballing IQ.
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Ideally I'd rather we took a punt on RLC too, but I just don't think he has Barkley's end product. I'd like to see Barkley in a similar role to Bakayoko's v United, i.e. I'd like to think Barkley would have put away the chance Bakayoko spooned over the bar. I'm no fan of Barkley but I think 3-5-1-1 could bring out the best in him.

 
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I'd like to get to the bottom of the deadline day fiasco though...

 
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Ideally I'd rather we took a punt on RLC too, but I just don't think he has Barkley's end product. I'd like to see Barkley in a similar role to Bakayoko's v United, i.e. I'd like to think Barkley would have put away the chance Bakayoko spooned over the bar. I'm no fan of Barkley but I think 3-5-1-1 could bring out the best in him.
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I'd agree that he would have probably finished the chances but would he put in the same type of performances as Bakayoko to get into those positions?

That's the part I'm not exactly assured with him. I admit that I don't watch Everton as much other than certain highlights on tv but what are his contributions to the Everton squad overall? I don't remember seeing him putting fantastic displays against us so it's hard to tell.

 
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I'd like to get to the bottom of the deadline day fiasco though...
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I personally think a deal was done with Everton which gave us the opportunity to talk to Barkley. We assessed Barkley's condition, realised he wouldn't be back playing much football until January and decided to hold off until the window was open again. I expect us to go back in for him in January with a smaller offer.

 
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Cue the "Chelsea snubbed for SPurs" rhetoric if he (hopefully) goes to the bottlers.

I hope to Jeebus we stay away he's just not that good a player and Everton are carpet merchants when it comes to selling their players.

 
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Cue the "Chelsea snubbed for SPurs" rhetoric if he (hopefully) goes to the bottlers.

I hope to Jeebus we stay away he's just not that good a player and Everton are carpet merchants when it comes to selling their players.
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I think they are at the point now where they will have no choice but to sell him cheap. His contract is up at the end of the season.

 
Not convinced by him really, injury prone and never consistently performed. Why not just get RLC back next season, probably getting a similar caliber of player and save 30M plus the 100k a week. By investing so much in youth, we can't just buy a 30M squad player every time there's a gap to fill, either spend 60M for a top player or promote from within

 
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Not convinced by him really, injury prone and never consistently performed. Why not just get RLC back next season, probably getting a similar caliber of player and save 30M plus the 100k a week. By investing so much in youth, we can't just buy a 30M squad player every time there's a gap to fill, either spend 60M for a top player or promote from within
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Totally agree. Has never lived up to the hype and is not a reliable player discipline-wise. Poor positionally, and also loses it in big games. Has similar workrate issues to RLC, but just can't see that he has any more to offer than RLC.

He'd cost a lot less than £30m, given his contract status, but I still would prefer to give RLC  his place in the squad.

EDIT: Just read the Sun's report on the latest rumour

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4875212/chelsea-ross-barkley-january-spree-christian-benteke/

I know it's the Sun, but I wish their journalists knew how to use Google. In the above article they claimed this:

Barkley had a medical at Chelsea in the summer but pulled out of a move
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And yet back in September, the BBC carried this report which said there was no medical:

Midfielder Ross Barkley has denied Everton's claim that he turned down a transfer deadline-day move to Chelsea after having a medical.

Majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri said Everton had accepted a bid and Barkley had agreed terms.

But the 23-year-old tweeted on Saturday that he had not had a medical "with any club at any point".

"I decided it would be best to make a decision and assess all my options in January when fully fit," he said.
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still after him according to matt law. would be a shame considering buying him blocks loftus-cheek returning or at least getting a chance with us.

 
Would be a very stupid buy. I didn't  want drinkwater either, because I felt we needed a more creative CM that likes to shoot from distance. 

 
So I was looking at stats and apparently, he made more chances than Lemar last season.

 
I'm not massively keen on Barkley, but in a midfield 3, he would offer us something different. 

 
This honestly could go either way if we do sign him. He is an incredibly talented player, but has stagnated at everyone either due to attitude or whatever. Moving to us could kick him back in and we have a fantastic player, or his attitude could be the same and he becomes a waste of money. It's only a year ago people would have loved this signing, he is as close to a lampard style of player there is available at the moment, a player we desperately need so i think it's a gamble worth taking.

 
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