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19seventyone said:
He’s a kid.

Again far too many writing him off. We could do that with the established players we signed in the previous era but we need to give these guys extra time due to their inexperience and age or it’s almost pointless.
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He's a year older than Lavia. 

The difference is head and shoulders, there's no shame not being up to the level of Chelsea. 

 
19seventyone said:
Like Salah? Or KDB?

We don’t have a great record of keeping our best youngsters because it was so difficult to break into an established (under Roman). The new model  means all of our players are young but we seem to ask that they perform week in week out like our successful teams of the past. 
I’m not saying criticism is all bad but I think we need to be mindful of who we are criticising 

Lesley has spat the dummy at Southampton and deleted all mention of them due to lack of game time. This is the difficulty for the loan players. Santos found the same scenario last season at Forest. 
 

Of course not all will make it at Chelsea but the fans can be a bit better encouraging them instead of ripping them a new arsehole or the trope of “he’s simply not good enough” when we have actual evidence of that not being the case re Salah, KDB, Cucu etc.

Some of these young players need more time to get there.
 
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Nobody is criticising anything. These are all young men trying to build their careers. This is a two way street, these players owe as much to the club as vice versa, they are perfectly entitledto try and build the best carrers tgat they can, regardless of where it is.

If you have six or seven similar aged players all competing for 2 or 3 places then it stands to reason that some will move on. Therefore we have no option but to play the very best of the group.

Football has never changed, its as cutthroat and brutal now as it ever was. There are at least a dozen lads released every season. Any one of them could be a Salah or a KDB, neither of which came through the ranks here anyway. Its unpleasant, its tough and now and again the wrong ones leave. But not often. 

 
Explains why he wasn't on the bench then. Shame as I personally think he's a good player.

I would much rather we have a buy back clause than % on future sale.

 
I don’t really see him becoming one of the better midfielders in premier league tbh.
 

It’s probably best for him to go back to Italy, the premier league seem far too fast paced for him.

 
dansubrosa said:
I don’t really see him becoming one of the better midfielders in premier league tbh.
 

It’s probably best for him to go back to Italy, the premier league seem far too fast paced for him.
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He'll do very well here. Slower tempo, less physical. Shame really. Dominated the U20 WC but such is the gap between youth and the PL.

 
dansubrosa said:
I don’t really see him becoming one of the better midfielders in premier league tbh.
 

It’s probably best for him to go back to Italy, the premier league seem far too fast paced for him.
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I don't believe it's a league issue at all. He's been misused since he got here. 

 
Remodez said:
I don't believe it's a league issue at all. He's been misused since he got here. 
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How? He's a midfielder, played in midfield. His issues were evident on loan at Leicester. Frequently outmuscled in midfield, he looked better in the box with his height but that's not enough.

 
dermott said:
How? He's a midfielder, played in midfield. His issues were evident on loan at Leicester. Frequently outmuscled in midfield, he looked better in the box with his height but that's not enough.
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He's not a midfielder you play in a pivot and he's certainty not a DM the way Enzo was using him. 

 
Remodez said:
He's not a midfielder you play in a pivot and he's certainty not a DM the way Enzo was using him. 
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Neither was Mikel but he made a pretty good career out of it. He's nowhere near good enough to play one of the attacking roles and if his skill set was so limited that he couldn't adapt to a deeper role he never had a future in the Prem. 

 
Ukraine Bolt said:
Neither was Mikel but he made a pretty good career out of it. He's nowhere near good enough to play one of the attacking roles and if his skill set was so limited that he couldn't adapt to a deeper role he never had a future in the Prem. 
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Not everyone is going to adapt to a new position regardless of how talented or their skill set. 

 
Ukraine Bolt said:
He's a year older than Lavia. 

The difference is head and shoulders, there's no shame not being up to the level of Chelsea. 
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Some players develop later...he may be one of those late bloomers, certainly a loan to a decent league and club wouldn't be the worse thing for him or even a club in the Championship where he'd likely to find a starting place, but I'm not sure completely writing him off is the best idea unless there is a buy back clause.

 
CFCCAN said:
Some players develop later...he may be one of those late bloomers, certainly a loan to a decent league and club wouldn't be the worse thing for him or even a club in the Championship where he'd likely to find a starting place, but I'm not sure completely writing him off is the best idea unless there is a buy back clause.
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We have FAR better players than him to worry about and we can't hoard and loan out everyone. 

 
Reading were in total disarray when he was there and were relegated, so I don't put much weight on his time there and he would have been what 20?   Leicester were a decent established side and while he did play a few times he was certainly not dreadful by any means.  

 
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