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Chelsea v Burnley (PL) Sun 31st Jan 2021 12:00 GMT

Zaphod2319 said:
We have better wingers than Havertz and Mount. I think Mount has shown in the past year he is less than average as a winger, but very good in midfield.
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They are not wingers in that system though, they are inside forwards and can rotate with the striker fluidly.

The width is supplied by the wingbacks so they need to be fast and to be able to beat a man, like James, Pulisic and CHO, or deliver a good cross without needing to beat a man, Like Alonso and James.

 
I really hope the one thing that changes with a new manager is that we stop walking the ball down and then bomb in high cross after high cross. I hope to see more attacking from both the middle and wide.

 
Imran_CFC said:
With a back 3 you can potentially look to play Mount & Kante with an additional CB however with a back 4 we may have to play a combination of Jorg/Billy and one of the other 3. Mount can also be utilized in the Number 10 role to press higher up alongside offering a goal threat.
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I am not sure with back 4 you have to play jorgi/Gilmour. Gilmour and jorgi work best in 3 mid format due to their lack of athleticism. 

 
Argo said:
I really hope Kante isn't going to be untouchable, that was my one big gripe with Frank in what I believe was otherwise a good job done last season.

He still more than has a role for us but his present day level simply doesn't warrant an untouchable status. Hopefully Tuchel can differentiate the Kante he's always wanted and the Kante of 2021.
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Hmm? 

He is untouchables though, if they say either kante or mendy is out of the season, we can forget this season. It will be brutal. 

 
Bob stark said:
Hmm? 

He is untouchables though, if they say either kante or mendy is out of the season, we can forget this season. It will be brutal. 
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Apart from Spurs away all our best performances last season came without Kante. He's been better this season but last it was infuriating seeing him walse back in after we built serious momentum without him.

 
Its early days for mr tuchel...

There seems to be no rhyme or reason between top and bottom clubs results...

But

I certainly expect , and i mean expect, us to get thru this tough game with 3 points...

 
Mike Carefree said:
Its early days for mr tuchel...

There seems to be no rhyme or reason between top and bottom clubs results...

But

I certainly expect , and i mean expect, us to get thru this tough game with 3 points...
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We should have got 3 off Wolves. They are in really poor form.

 
Zaphod2319 said:
We have better wingers than Havertz and Mount. I think Mount has shown in the past year he is less than average as a winger, but very good in midfield.
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Don’t mean to nit pick, but I doubt that MM asked or wanted to play on the wing - I don’t know that he did or that he didn’t btw - but I imagine he just did was he asked to do?

 
Paddy said:
Don’t mean to nit pick, but I doubt that MM asked or wanted to play on the wing - I don’t know that he did or that he didn’t btw - but I imagine he just did was he asked to do?
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I never meant to imply that he asked. He has been played there by both Chelsea and the national team, and it does not take advantage of his best qualities.

 
bluesfan said:
Tuchel said he doesn't see too many flaws in our team which is quite concerning so I don't know if much will change, especially in a few days.
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To be fair you rarely see a new manager come in and state that the squad is rubbish. Perhaps Barry Fry would have said that but most are going to try and give a positive spin even if they have identified flaws behind the scenes.

 
Argo said:
Apart from Spurs away all our best performances last season came without Kante. He's been better this season but last it was infuriating seeing him walse back in after we built serious momentum without him.
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I think you are talking early season when everyone was praising how we played I remember how great zouma and Tomori played because It was madness, absolute madness. We pretty much couldn't cover our d line, and we kept losing the ball so it was basketball game. Every good team, create a lot concede little, we created a lot n conceded a lot. Fun to watch but unsustainable. 

Kante is pretty much our only midfielder that can actually defend. It is that simple, he may no longer at the peak of his game but he is still very2 good. 

 
forbzy said:
To be fair you rarely see a new manager come in and state that the squad is rubbish. Perhaps Barry Fry would have said that but most are going to try and give a positive spin even if they have identified flaws behind the scenes.
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Not sure we have any need other than a dm

 
forbzy said:
Pretty sure we have ruled out any signings this window. May be because Tuchel hasn't had time to assess the squad. 
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We won't sign anybody but Tuchel is right, there isn't much flaw in this team except lack of decen dm

 
Argo said:
I really hope Kante isn't going to be untouchable, that was my one big gripe with Frank in what I believe was otherwise a good job done last season.

He still more than has a role for us but his present day level simply doesn't warrant an untouchable status. Hopefully Tuchel can differentiate the Kante he's always wanted and the Kante of 2021.
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Totally agree, no where near the player he was, and a couple of years ago, we may of been sensible to cash in when he was top dollar to a PSG or Spanish club, still can have a great game, but yes definitely not an untouchable 

 
Bob stark said:
I think you are talking early season when everyone was praising how we played I remember how great zouma and Tomori played because It was madness, absolute madness. We pretty much couldn't cover our d line, and we kept losing the ball so it was basketball game. Every good team, create a lot concede little, we created a lot n conceded a lot. Fun to watch but unsustainable. 

Kante is pretty much our only midfielder that can actually defend. It is that simple, he may no longer at the peak of his game but he is still very2 good. 
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I was referring to games like Brighton home, A**x away, Newcastle home, Watford away (that one especially) where we controlled the games and barely gave the other teams a sniff. Granted there were some basketball type games in that run like Burnley away and A**x home but there was many of them with Kante aswell.

Also a bigger gripe was Gilmour completely losing his place (for Kante to be put back in) after those two games vs the scouse duo, three month lockdown or no he totally transformed us from a side that was off form for 2/3 months to a side that was fluent and taking teams apart and by all accounts he was smashing it in those BCD friendly's before the restart.

 
It may not matter so much who plays as much as how they play. Every player in the squad can do a job it’s just a matter of figuring out how to do it. 

putting wingers in as wing backs is already something. 
‘we all know that high crosses into the area is not going to be the way, so that means either getting behind or penetrating around the edge of the box  we need to be prepared to sacrifice some possession in return for more aggression round the box  In consequence will have to defend more  

 
Argo said:
I was referring to games like Brighton home, A**x away, Newcastle home, Watford away (that one especially) where we controlled the games and barely gave the other teams a sniff. Granted there were some basketball type games in that run like Burnley away and A**x home but there was many of them with Kante aswell.

Also a bigger gripe was Gilmour completely losing his place (for Kante to be put back in) after those two games vs the scouse duo, three month lockdown or no he totally transformed us from a side that was off form for 2/3 months to a side that was fluent and taking teams apart and by all accounts he was smashing it in those BCD friendly's before the restart.
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Billy featured in 4 out of the 6 games post lock down including 2 starts against Palace and Leicester before injury ended his season prematurely. 

We need to remember he is incredibly young with a small frame and maybe the excessive football at the top level contributed to his lengthy lay off due to injury. 

 
Mike Carefree said:
Its early days for mr tuchel...

There seems to be no rhyme or reason between top and bottom clubs results...

But

I certainly expect , and i mean expect, us to get thru this tough game with 3 points...
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Nice to see you are back, thought maybe you had given up on the forum or CFC.

 
Mount has to play, so as Pullisic. We need to score, can't afford to have Jorginho and Kovacic spray passes away from the final third all day. Be disappointed if Zouma is left out again, our defence is not getting better without him, and we lost that extra threat in set pieces.

 
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