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Chelsea v Forest (PL) Sat 2nd Sep 2023 15:00 GMT

This Colwill at left back Chilwell as a winger sh*t has got to stop don’t know what poch is playing at there when you have natural wide men on the bench

 
It’s fine, totally fine. We’ve signed the best young talent from around the world, we’re already doing better than last years 12th and anyone who says anything negative is just moaning and wasn’t there in the 1981/2 season.

And I’m sure are goals XO thing is way better than City’s!!!

All hail Boehly and Poch! Trust the plan!

 
The absolute freedom Forest had on that right side knowing there is no attacking threat from our left side...

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It was crap but let’s not all fall on our swords over the season just yet…it’s been four PL games…what’s annoying is we no longer have a knack of getting results we deserve let alone better than we deserve like we did in the past. 
 

yes chelsea shouldn’t be losing at home to Forest but surprised people think we’d be finished article with this squad after five minutes as well. 

 
The Brit said:
It was crap but let’s not all fall on our swords over the season just yet…it’s been four PL games…what’s annoying is we no longer have a knack of getting results we deserve let alone better than we deserve like we did in the past. 
 

yes chelsea shouldn’t be losing at home to Forest but surprised people think we’d be finished article with this squad after five minutes as well. 
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All true, but it makes it hard to sympathize with a manager who expects to solve our goal scoring problem by fielding more defenders. 

 
Sconnie Blue said:
The absolute freedom Forest had on that right side knowing there is no attacking threat from our left side...

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People underestimating/forgetting impact of Nkunku’s injury. Do think poch needs to abandon the Chilwell left wing with Colwill as left back experiment. It worked on the whole against Liverpool but not since then. Need a proper attacking player there with Chilwell at left back, Colwill as a cb.

 
The only good thing about today was that I have both Haaland and Ferguson in my fantasy team 🙂 

 
In order not to invest in a forward this summer we must be pretty confident we’re getting Toney in January. Problem is our season might be well and truly over by then. 

 
Next game its gots to be

                           Sanchez

       Gusto   Silva    Colwill    Matassen

                     Caicedo   Lavia

                              Enzo

       Sterling                        Mudryk 

                          Jackson

Slate away compadres 😀

 
Wouldnt it be a great idea to play players in their actual positions (chilwell). Wingback systems seem to be the best way to kill a good player in their tracks. Go to a back 4 and disasi moves to bench warmer.

 
What a pathetic performance. Still seems like we payed 90 mill too much for Caicedo. And please explain to me why Mudryk is given minutes on the pitch.

 
Dr. Socrates said:
Don’t know what I just witnessed. That was dreadful on every level. All that money spent and we have one raw striker in the squad. A left back playing as left winger. A midfield that has no goals in it. And a 39 year old centre back that the manager is too scared to drop so sets up the team to protect his lack of pace. This is just nonsense from Poch. He has badly misjudged these opening games and this is the easy part of the season. We need to move to a more progressive style of play, especially against teams like Nottingham Forest. We can’t carry on like this. Nkunku is out for a long time and Poch’s solution to play three at the back with Chilwell as left winger, has been a disaster. 
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My thoughts exactly. Pochettino's team selection is stupid. I wanted to use another word but I just cannot. Stupid is the right one. 

Disasi, Silva, Colwill, Enzo, Caicedo and Gallagher. 6 starters that are not natural goal scorers. Plus the two full backs. Against NF at home. 

I thought this was just a one time thing against Liverpool because it was the first game of the season and we needed a result to build some confidence. But I see this horrific formation every week and I don't know what to make of it. 

Pochettino must act fast and revert to four at the back, drop Silva, use the full backs in their natural position and bring natural wingers in the starting lineup. 

 
Also seeing a lot of blame on us playing "just kids".

Silva, Sterling, Sanchez, Chilwell and Disasi are not 21 year olds with little top flight play time. There SHOULD be plenty of leadership there.

 
The Brit said:
People underestimating/forgetting impact of Nkunku’s injury. Do think poch needs to abandon the Chilwell left wing with Colwill as left back experiment. It worked on the whole against Liverpool but not since then. Need a proper attacking player there with Chilwell at left back, Colwill as a cb.
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It worked against Liverpool because we had both Chilwell and Reece working in tandem down the flanks. 

In pre-season we played a different system with 4 at the back and were generally much better to watch. It also didn't seem to matter which CB pair we played in pre-season too as the system worked OK for all the combinations. Odd that we seemed to abandon it as soon as the season started.

 
forbzy said:
It worked against Liverpool because we had both Chilwell and Reece working in tandem down the flanks. 

In pre-season we played a different system with 4 at the back and were generally much better to watch. It also didn't seem to matter which CB pair we played in pre-season too as the system worked OK for all the combinations. Odd that we seemed to abandon it as soon as the season started.
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The Nkunku effect.

 
A reality check, we aren't that much better than last season. Playing 5 defenders against a team defend deep is always a big risk, especially Enzo playing so far forward, and only attacker that capable of running against defenders is Sterling. Sterling played well, but most time he was up against 2 or 3 by himself, even a prime Hazard would have struggled. Not a fan of Enzo playing forward, he's far more effective playing in a deeper position and spray those attacking passes, and more importantly he's not a natural goal scorer. Any comparison between Jackson and Drogba needs to cool down, he's a good young player that gives a lot, but anticipation and movement still has a long way to go, not even going to talk about that finishing. I hope the miss doesn't affect him. We got some good youth prospects, but they aren't suited to rescue acts, not yet at least.

It's frustrating for Poch, as much as he knows this is a 'long term' project, he's aware he must get results as well, just ask the last guy who got a 5 year contract. Against a well drilled experienced team, we just looked way off from getting the 3 points.

 
Dr. Socrates said:
Don’t know what I just witnessed. That was dreadful on every level. All that money spent and we have one raw striker in the squad. A left back playing as left winger. A midfield that has no goals in it. And a 39 year old centre back that the manager is too scared to drop so sets up the team to protect his lack of pace. This is just nonsense from Poch. He has badly misjudged these opening games and this is the easy part of the season. We need to move to a more progressive style of play, especially against teams like Nottingham Forest. We can’t carry on like this. Nkunku is out for a long time and Poch’s solution to play three at the back with Chilwell as left winger, has been a disaster. 
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100%. I’ll be shot for saying this but postecoglou would have them enjoying their football they are playing scared because that is the way poch has set them up. Deep down he is scared of failing and doesn’t trust the players. Deep down that’s what they feel. Having said that Jackson’s miss was very ordinary. But it wouldn’t matter if we created more. 

 
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