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Chelsea v Man Utd (PL) Sun 28th Nov 2021 16:30 GMT

United have had the upper hand against us in recent years. Even under Ole they did well against us in the league. It would be great to get a win against them, and a resounding one at that. I fully expect a tough game as they have a ton of good attacking players in particular. That being said you have to fancy our chances of creating opportunities against their defense, even without Harry Maguire ;). Lets hope we can take our chances on Sunday and continue to defend well. 

 
axman2526 said:
If Ben is indeed out I would go with

Mendy

Trev

Silva

AC

James

Jorgi

Kante

Rudiger

Pulisic

Havertz

CHO

Or Dave at LWB and Toni in place of AC.
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Why do you think Alonso shouldn't play? I haven't seen a bad game from him under Tuchel. He's also had a fantastic start of the season.

If you are emphasizing his 'lack of pace' like many do, I never really thought that was the case with him. He's not Usain Bolt, but he's far from slow.

Besides that, Rudiger is on his side to cover up for eventual mistakes so no worries. But I don't think Alonso is going to have a problem stopping Sancho, who has done literally nothing so far.

Justice for Marcos!

 
wizardous said:
We haven't beaten them at home since 2017 and Morata's trademark header. That's five games in a row. Sounds strange, doesn't it?
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Weirdly, our record against United post-Ferguson has been average.

We used to always step up a gear when he was coaching them.

 
wizardous said:
Why do you think Alonso shouldn't play? I haven't seen a bad game from him under Tuchel. He's also had a fantastic start of the season.

If you are emphasizing his 'lack of pace' like many do, I never really thought that was the case with him. He's not Usain Bolt, but he's far from slow.

Besides that, Rudiger is on his side to cover up for eventual mistakes so no worries. But I don't think Alonso is going to have a problem stopping Sancho, who has done literally nothing so far.

Justice for Marcos!
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Lack of pace is an issue, a bigger one though is his ability to get up and down the flank for 90 plus minutes for 3 games a week. He gets gased, and that leaves the attack short and defence exposed.

2 games a week he can do a job, but 3? Not for me he is going to get too tired.

 
So I tend to make it a policy to not watch United unless we are playing them. 

Anyone on here know the strengths and weaknesses of Lindoff and Bailey and who would be the best from 3 to get at them?

 
axman2526 said:
So I tend to make it a policy to not watch United unless we are playing them. 

Anyone on here know the strengths and weaknesses of Lindoff and Bailey and who would be the best from 3 to get at them?
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I dont watch them either but my biggest worry is DDG keeping them in the game, their pace up top with Rashford and Sancho, CR7 being a clinical finisher and of course the refs giving them penalties.

 
They are fast on the counter - that's all I'm worried of. Neither good at pressing nor defending so if we bring our game on the pitch this should eventually be a comfy win. Who would have thought half a season ago? Their midfield is sub-par which helps us a lot and their defenders aren't up to it. I reckon Lukaku will strike 'em hard!

The thing I like to think of is that in my perception Ole was quite liked by the players so they were basically losing mostly because they were clueless rather than playing against their manager - so I don't expect any 180° magic happen with their performances - especially since they've messed up their window to change the manager also properly. 

 
Can see us losing this one; in fact I'm going to put a £25 kicker on them at 5-1 Bet365 just to soften the blow. We're due a loss, they're inevitably going to play as if their lives depend on them. Everyone has completely written them off and failed to understand they have world class players who can pull a rabbit out of the hat. Might be pessimistic but with all the media guff about us being the best team in the World, I think United will walk away 2-1/2-0.

 
thebluekid said:
Can see us losing this one; in fact I'm going to put a £25 kicker on them at 5-1 Bet365 just to soften the blow. We're due a loss, they're inevitably going to play as if their lives depend on them. Everyone has completely written them off and failed to understand they have world class players who can pull a rabbit out of the hat. Might be pessimistic but with all the media guff about us being the best team in the World, I think United will walk away 2-1/2-0.
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We've not conceded two goals in a game so far this season so hold onto your money.

 
United seem to be the side we have struggled against the most in recent years. Seems a lot of 0-0 draws and several years since we beat them in the league.

Nobody has any info on what type of defenders Lindoff and Bailey are then? 

Well with that being the case think both CHO and Ziyech earned a start from the Juve game however CP not so much. I will guess Havertz is the 3rd.

Far as Alonso goes, United have some of the quickest attackers around and sound like they are best counter attacking, so I expect they target Alonso as Reece is in beast mode. Secondly if you play him 3 games in a week he will not be able to offer top performances in all 3, he will need a rest in either game 2 or 3. 

Game 2 would be my pick, so Watford, Zeta, Brentford in league cup etc. Question is who is the best back up to him? Maybe Sarr?

 
coco said:
We've not conceded two goals in a game so far this season so hold onto your money.
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I'm not gonna bet one scoreline, it's too risky I think! I just think they will do us because they have absolutely been written off as dead and buried. We've been there as a club; players completely downed tools, manager leaves, players all of a sudden find an extra gear. I will only ever bet against us on games where if we do lose, winning a little bit of money off it softens the blow. United at 5-1 is an absolute steal!!!!

 
thebluekid said:
I'm not gonna bet one scoreline, it's too risky I think! I just think they will do us because they have absolutely been written off as dead and buried. We've been there as a club; players completely downed tools, manager leaves, players all of a sudden find an extra gear. I will only ever bet against us on games where if we do lose, winning a little bit of money off it softens the blow. United at 5-1 is an absolute steal!!!!
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You've not been very reliable with your predictions so far.

 
Greetings from the madhouse that is Old Trafford these days. I don't want to predict the score for the match but it all depends on which United turns up at the Bridge. Our midfield - if you can call it that - will likely be McTominay and Fred (unless Carrick goes off-script and plays Donny in there) and our defence will be shorn of Varane (a signing that was questionable at best, given his injury record at Real) and Maguire, but that's not really a handicap. Lindelof and maybe Bailly will be in the middle. Rashford and Ronaldo up front with Fernandes tucking in behind. Latest news is that Ralf Rangnick is our interim boss but he won't be in the dugout against Chelsea.

Traditionally, we don't perform that well after a European away game so I imagine you'll pick up the points. A title challenge is out of the question now - thanks Glazers - but the FA Cup remains a possibility. The CL is beyond us. It all feels a bit 1980s.

 
Could we see the resurgence of the mighty Phil Jones? He’d have to put the filming of his next Nutflix special on hold mind. 

 
So Rangnick as interim, then moving upstairs into an advisory DoF-style role in the summer (presumably being succeeded by Pochettino).

That is worryingly well-thought out. I preferred the incompetent Man Utd who made idiotic decisions driven by sentiment.

Watching him try to work Ronaldo the reluctant into a high-pressing structure will be fun though...

 
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PloKoon13 said:
So Rangnick as interim, then moving upstairs into an advisory DoF-style role in the summer (presumably being succeeded by Pochettino).

That is worryingly well-thought out. I preferred the incompetent Man Utd who made idiotic decisions driven by sentiment.

Watching him try to work Ronaldo the reluctant into a high-pressing structure will be fun though...
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He is really good at what he does. Top appointment from them.

There should be no way we don't beat United considering everything going on with them and how well we are playing. However they have had our number for years and we could also say there was no way Burnley should have escaped without a hiding at the Bridge too.

Sometimes strange things happen in football. I expect the United that roasted Spurs turns up and Taylor helps them when needed.

 
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