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Chelsea vs Liverpool (PL) 31/10/15 KO 12:45 GMT

Looking at results to date and the way Chelsea have played I still think the problems are less interesting than the media would like people to believe.

I saw improvement in the Kiev, Villa and West Ham games but still saw out of form players, out of form players trying their nuts off.

Lets be fair, a Chelsea team with an out of form Hazard would not have won the title last season, a Chelsea team with an out of form Fabregas would not have built up the momentum that meant when his form dipped, they could grind out enough results relying on the aforementioned Hazard to get them over the line.

Costa obviously suffers when either is out of form so it's no wonder he is having a tough time with both below par.

You don't even need to think about the extra year on JT's legs that will show more when our attack is so blunt as teams are generally more ambitious against us knowing we struggle to hurt them on the counter.

Then we have a similar problem with Ivan, again without the need to worry (as much as last season) about our forwards and with Fabregas defensively frail Ivan's form dip is exaggerated.

We also have lost a couple of big personalities in Cech and Drogba, we've lost two top goalkeepers (as good as Asmir is he is not on their level) and other teams in the league have improved.

I doubt many media sources would want to look at it like that but nothing I've said is conjecture, sensationalism or plain bias so I can understand why they wouldn't want to print it.

 
Well it's been 3 days and I still can't come to terms with Michael Owen's commentary.

The little c*nt.

 
Zinc said:
That's really disgraceful IMO.

I understand their anger to see us losing, but they should have stayed and supported the team regardless of the score.
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Just to point out some people leave 15 mins early regardless of the score, if I go to a 7.45 kick off I have to leave early or I won't make the midnight train (the last train of the evening) when I get back to Kent, sucks for champions league games especially when we're losing I must look very unloyal lol :p
 
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The real shock for me in this game was the first half. I know we conceded two goals in the second but the first was truly shocking in my opinion. We went up early and just completely sat up , we put the onus on the to get back into the game (which they did) rather than taking the game away from them. It's a mentality that worked for the second half of last season but is clearly not working now.

 
gussy122 said:
The real shock for me in this game was the first half. I know we conceded two goals in the second but the first was truly shocking in my opinion. We went up early and just completely sat up , we put the onus on the to get back into the game (which they did) rather than taking the game away from them. It's a mentality that worked for the second half of last season but is clearly not working now.
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I feel like at the 2nd half of last season we started to play poorly. It was the first half that was impressive.

 
I wonder why you're taking offence at someone criticising Mikel.

He wasn't that great against Liverpool. Going backwards isn't what the team needs right now.

 
wallosh said:
Oh! So Fabregas was fantastic?
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Tbf, he was already on a yellow and didn't really do much to contribute to our attack.

We needed goals at that time, so Cesc's sub was a logical one.

 
wallosh said:
Oh! So Fabregas was fantastic?
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You alluded that the midfield was worse off after Fabregas' introduction and that Mikel was holding it together.

I was highlighting that Mikel had a bad game, very bad in fact against Liverpool.

I'm not really sure what Fabregas' contribution has to do with that point?

 
I was criticising Jose for bringing on Fabregas when we had Matic and RLC on the bench at a time when we can still win the game. FFS Fabregas has been bad all season and his introduction ruin our chances of getting anything from the game! Am i clear?

So i dont know what Mikel being awful has to do with this?

Besides if Mikel was awful how come Fabregas wasn't MOTM since he is the Messiah?

 
wallosh said:
I was criticising Jose for bringing on Fabregas when we had Matic and RLC on the bench at a time when we can still win the game. FFS Fabregas has been bad all season and his introduction ruin our chances of getting anything from the game! Am i clear?

So i dont know what Mikel being awful has to do with this?

Besides if Mikel was awful how come Fabregas wasn't MOTM since he is the Messiah?
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Typical Mikel apologist.

LOL

No point discussing football with people with blinkers on.

 
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