Chelsea vs Sunderland (PL) Saturday 25th October 15:00 GMT

Even Reece James was strolling around today, there was nobody who wanted to up the tempo.

The fastest football of the day came from Sunderland whenever they broke on us.

 
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Big loss. We really need to be beating our Europa League rivals like Sunderland and Tottenham at home.

 
What a clown this manger is - it was obvious Pedro and Pedro were both having a bad day - so what's Maresca do ?

Takes off our goalscorer Garnacho and then Guiu - who'd had practically zero service all game!

When is this idiot going to stop playing his favorites and start picking a winning line up ?

And Enzo... I dunno... first name on the team sheet - why - what is it he does ?

Another 3 points down the drain for me because of Maresca.

Credit to Sunderland - came with a game plan and executed it to perfection.

What did Chelsea do - put on a team that shouldn't have lost ffs...

 
Do we really have great players though? Palmer & Caicedo yea, then Colwill, you could maybe say Estevao but he’s way too raw atm.

No matter who comes in, the recruitment has been poor, and it will come all the way back to the sporting directors yet again.
I'd argue that despite our spending a lot of our best players are still from the academy - e.g. James, Colwill, Acheampong. Says it all about Clearlake really.

 
Do we really have great players though? Palmer & Caicedo yea, then Colwill, you could maybe say Estevao but he’s way too raw atm.

No matter who comes in, the recruitment has been poor, and it will come all the way back to the sporting directors yet again.
No we have good players. IF we had a proper experienced manager (with a vision and an ability to adapt tactically) that manager wouldn't be complaining about the quality of our youngsters. Our players are good. They are not being utilised properly. The shape of our team never changes and Maresca is out of ideas.

 
Like everyone, I’m addicted to supporting Chelsea and for most of my time it’s been a broadly happy addiction. But never have I felt this fed up and truly wished to God that I didn’t care and was into rugby or cricket instead.

It’s one thing not being very good. Been there and made the best of it. But this era is unbearable. It’s this constant taunting of we could be good, but we are not going to be.

But this is Chelsea now, a constant succession of next best teenagers, but never any players that are ready now or experienced. And that is why we will get the odd fluke like beating Liverpool or PSG, but the norm is draws and defeats to Fulham, Sunderland, Palace etc.

I don’t care what anyone says, we haven’t got a single good centre back out of the thrifty or so we have at the club.

 
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f**king hell, Acheampong was having the time of his life and got replaced by Tosin who managed to make himself look like a clown for Sunderland's second. Chalobah also stood there looking like a lamp post. Guiu and Joao Pedro stayed way too long on the pitch.

Maresca with a stinker here. What a frustrating afternoon.

 
Not sure i agree. Of the 16 players who festered today i would say Caciedo and James are the only top drawer players. Esteviao is still very young and you feel he will become quality, same with Acheampong.

The other 12? Largely mid table players with the occasional good game in their locker.
I disagree. We have players who have won world cups, players who start for Ancelotti's Brazil, etc. These are young players - not mid-table players. They don't have experience and so they look to the manager - but alas our manager has no experience either and our manager doesn't have that many ideas either.

 
I disagree. We have players who have won world cups, players who start for Ancelotti's Brazil, etc. These are young players - not mid-table players. They don't have experience and so they look to the manager - but alas our manager has no experience either and our manager doesn't have that many ideas either.
Thing is our world cup winner is probably up there with Roque Junior and Kleberson as one of the worst players to ever win it.

 
Thing is our world cup winner is probably up there with Roque Junior and Kleberson as one of the worst players to ever win it.
I confess i actually like Enzo Fernandez as a player. He's not really suited to our formation and the way we currently play. But Little Enzo is a footballer. Good control and distribution imho.

 
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I confess i actually like Enzo Fernandez as a player. He's not really suited to our formation and the way we currently play. But Little Enzo is a footballer. Good control and distribution imho.
Not in the Premier League. His control and distribution is often sh*t because he can't cope with the constant intensity of the league. In a hotter climate, he's fine, because teams can't play at this intensity for the whole game. I'm confident that Enzo will never be a top player in this league and will always have games like today where he can't contribute a single positive thing.

If Lavia had never had any injury issues, and if the club didn't have such a hard on for the Enzo, I am certain that Enzo would have been benched a long time ago.

 
Do we really have great players though? Palmer & Caicedo yea, then Colwill, you could maybe say Estevao but he’s way too raw atm.

No matter who comes in, the recruitment has been poor, and it will come all the way back to the sporting directors yet again.













I confess i actually like Enzo Fernandez as a player. He's not really suited to our formation and the way we currently play. But Little Enzo is a footballer. Good control and distribution imho.
I confess i actually like Enzo Fernandez as a player. He's not really suited to our formation and the way we currently play. But Little Enzo is a footballer. Good control and distribution imho.
Do we have 2 players called Enzo, because the one your talking about definitely isn't Enzo Fernandez.

 
What the hell was that I just watched? Endless passing at the back from side to side while Sunderland sat back waiting for us to lose the ball. Rinse and repeat. Was that our actual game plan? Jeezus. Maresca can look like a rank amateur at times.

 
What a clown this manger is - it was obvious Pedro and Pedro were both having a bad day - so what's Maresca do ?

Takes off our goalscorer Garnacho and then Guiu - who'd had practically zero service all game!

When is this idiot going to stop playing his favorites and start picking a winning line up ?

And Enzo... I dunno... first name on the team sheet - why - what is it he does ?

Another 3 points down the drain for me because of Maresca.

Credit to Sunderland - came with a game plan and executed it to perfection.

What did Chelsea do - put on a team that shouldn't have lost ffs...
Wrong formation - we played more of a 4-3-3 against A**x and we should have stuck with that today. We didn't need Enzo Fernandez today - Fernandez is a technical player better suited to European games and the "bigger clubs". He is also a leader on the pitch - he is our vice captain for a reason.

I like Marc Guiu good lad - but he was awful today - he only touched the ball 6 maybe 7 times - not good enough. So he goes off and you push J.Pedro further up which is fine. But then before that idea even has a chance to do anything Maresca takes off J.Pedro puts on George as no.9 - i mean wtf. What was - what is - Maresca thinking?

 
Wrong formation - we played more of a 4-3-3 against A**x and we should have stuck with that today. We didn't need Enzo Fernandez today - Fernandez is a technical player better suited to European games and the "bigger clubs". He is also a leader on the pitch - he is our vice captain for a reason.

I like Marc Guiu good lad - but he was awful today - he only touched the ball 6 maybe 7 times - not good enough. So he goes off and you push J.Pedro further up which is fine. But then before that idea even has a chance to do anything Maresca takes off J.Pedro puts on George as no.9 - i mean wtf. What was - what is - Maresca thinking?
I have heard this 'leader on the pitch' thing one or two times before but I have never seen it. I don't remotely see him as being a leader in the pitch. Quite the opposite. Largely invisible as the game passes him by. Is he a player you'd want by your side when the chips are down and you need dragged up to standard? Not a chance for me. Isn't remotely fit to be picked let alone wear the armband.

 
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