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David Luiz back at Chelsea

By forcing this move, Luiz has tainted his legacy for me. Forcing a move to a rival team 1 day before the window closes, when we have a transfer ban is a dick move in my opinion. I'm equally as annoyed with the club for giving him what he wants. We have gained nothing from this move. £8m gets you nowhere in todays market. We have weakened our own squad and helped a direct rival strengthen their squad.  I would honestly rather Luiz rot in the reserves than sell him to them for pretty much nothing. 

 
Scott Harris said:
By forcing this move, Luiz has tainted his legacy for me. Forcing a move to a rival team 1 day before the window closes, when we have a transfer ban is a dick move in my opinion. I'm equally as annoyed with the club for giving him what he wants. We have gained nothing from this move. £8m gets you nowhere in todays market. We have weakened our own squad and helped a direct rival strengthen their squad.  I would honestly rather Luiz rot in the reserves than sell him to them for pretty much nothing. 
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100% Agreed 

 
Scott Harris said:
By forcing this move, Luiz has tainted his legacy for me. Forcing a move to a rival team 1 day before the window closes, when we have a transfer ban is a dick move in my opinion. I'm equally as annoyed with the club for giving him what he wants. We have gained nothing from this move. £8m gets you nowhere in todays market. We have weakened our own squad and helped a direct rival strengthen their squad.  I would honestly rather Luiz rot in the reserves than sell him to them for pretty much nothing. 
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I read somewhere that he makes right around 12 million per year in wages, so we are saving that money as well.  Helps dull the sting of a 8 million fee.

 
They can just edit the 3 month old clip and replace Chelsea shirt/background with Arse, same player, same length of contract, just a different club. It's hilarious how little words mean nowadays.

 
Considering its deadline-day and Arsenal were desperate 8 million for him seems very, very low. He had to go by all accounts and i support the decision but it does leave us in a difficult situation. Christensen-Zouma did not look good together in pre-season and now they will be our CBs for at least a couple of months until Rudiger gets up to speed. Good chance for Tomori to make a name for himself though.

 
mclovin83 said:
Well it isn't, but ok. 

I personally find it very unlikely that the club would have chosen for this to play out as it did, with us seemingly panic selling a senior player to a direct rival for £8M on transfer deadline day. 

But yeah, we are all entitled to form our own opinion on what is most likely to have happened... 
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I think the £8m fee if true tells us everything we need to know about this deal, we just want rid. 

 
Kissing the badge 3 months ago, pushes for a move to a hated rival 3 months later, one day before the transfer window closes during a transfer ban. For me, this is worse than the Courtois situation. Courtois never had the same kind of connection with the fans and club like Luiz had. Luiz has dumped all over that though. People say he doesn't deserve boo's when he returns to the Bridge, but I wouldn't complain one bit if that is how the fans react to this. How would you expect fans to react to a player pulling a stunt like this? It's unreasonable to expect fans to not be anything but pissed at Luiz for this. So if they boo him on his return, then they should be allowed to do that without criticism.

 
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dkw said:
I think the £8m fee if true tells us everything we need to know about this deal, we just want rid. 
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Exactly. It reeks of a panic sale, i.e. £8M is better than getting nothing and keeping a potentially disruptive presence at the club. 

Why would we choose to sell to a direct rival? Why has he not been linked with any other club? It just doesn't stack up...

 
Imagine if we pulled out of the deal right at the last second just to troll Arsenal.

Whatever happens I don’t care much tbh. He’s not going to improve Arsenal that much.

 
Scott Harris said:
By forcing this move, Luiz has tainted his legacy for me. Forcing a move to a rival team 1 day before the window closes, when we have a transfer ban is a dick move in my opinion. I'm equally as annoyed with the club for giving him what he wants. We have gained nothing from this move. £8m gets you nowhere in todays market. We have weakened our own squad and helped a direct rival strengthen their squad.  I would honestly rather Luiz rot in the reserves than sell him to them for pretty much nothing. 
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Yep, fully agree with all that. 

 
The only thing that annoys me abit is Arsenal are going to benefit from his long range passing - He got the ball to Pedro almost perfect every time, imagine what he can do with the likes of Auba, Pepe, Lacazette.

 
Scott Harris said:
By forcing this move, Luiz has tainted his legacy for me. Forcing a move to a rival team 1 day before the window closes, when we have a transfer ban is a dick move in my opinion. I'm equally as annoyed with the club for giving him what he wants. We have gained nothing from this move. £8m gets you nowhere in todays market. We have weakened our own squad and helped a direct rival strengthen their squad.  I would honestly rather Luiz rot in the reserves than sell him to them for pretty much nothing. 
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But forcing Luiz to stay when he adamantly wants to leave could have been a disaster in itself. He's clearly had impact in the dressing-room and have his own little clique of players so he could really have disrupted the squad if the club decided to make an example out of him. It's the correct decision as far as i'm concerned.

 
Whatever the story behind it is, I wish Luiz well. He provided some great memories for me and was part of the greatest moment in this clubs history. He isn’t getting any younger and has to think of his career. 

 
Conte was onto something in that second season.

Me thinks Luiz tries to exerts a little too much influence at times.

There’s been a vocal leader in the team and then there’s being a vocally disruptive presence.

Word was Luiz openly questioned Conte’s team selection and tactics following the away match to Roma in the Champions League a couple of years back and then he was “injured” the whole season.

I just wonder if he spoke out of turn to his former teammate, now manager? 

 
Scott Harris said:
By forcing this move, Luiz has tainted his legacy for me. Forcing a move to a rival team 1 day before the window closes, when we have a transfer ban is a dick move in my opinion. I'm equally as annoyed with the club for giving him what he wants. We have gained nothing from this move. £8m gets you nowhere in todays market. We have weakened our own squad and helped a direct rival strengthen their squad.  I would honestly rather Luiz rot in the reserves than sell him to them for pretty much nothing. 
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But but it’s all speculation no one can say anything because we have no inside information  it could well have been amicably planned  him and frank could be best if mates.

He got turfed out of first team training because his toenail hurt and we charged arsenal 8 mil because we had planned all along to sell our happy amicable defender who quite rightly put in a transfer request when discussing game time with his mate frank, to a rival team desperate for a defender that we could have taken to the cleaners on the last day at a third of his value...don’t speculate mate what’s the matter with you, didn’t you see him kiss the badge? 

Sounds stupid doesn’t it? I agree with you as the Spanish say he is an El wonker, it was pretty decent of us to let him go I would have said the reserve route too but I assume frank just wanted all the bad energy away from the club, he would have still met up with his mates and got in their ears. 

 
Scott Harris said:
Kissing the badge 3 months ago, pushes for a move to a hated rival 3 months later, one day before the transfer window closes during a transfer ban. For me, this is worse than the Courtois situation. Courtois never had the same kind of connection with the fans and club like Luiz had. Luiz has dumped all over that though. People say he doesn't deserve boo's when he returns to the Bridge, but I wouldn't complain one bit if that is how the fans react to this. How would you expect fans to react to a player pulling a stunt like this? It's unreasonable to expect fans to not be anything but pissed at Luiz for this. So if they boo him on his return, then they should be allowed to do that without criticism.
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Can't disagree with anything you've said. If Luiz  really wanted a move, its beyond me why we haven't said yes but you have 3 weeks to get yourself a club abroad. As it is we have given Arsenal just what they needed, a player capable of playing well in the centre of a three. £8 million is a pittance to receive on deadline day when the market moves in favour of the seller.

 
Sexyfootball said:
So has he actually gone ?

15 minutes past the transfer deadline and no announcement ...
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As long as the paperwork was in before the deadline they don't have to announce it right away.  I would imagine it's gone through though.

 
mclovin83 said:
That would be why I said "I find it unlikely" as opposed to "this did/didn't happen".....
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You were quite adamant on a couple of occasions none of it was speculation, and objected to my remarking everyrhing was speculation. But hey, changing your opinion aka seeing sense is allowed, it's progress even  ?

 
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