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Seen a hysaj a few times, decent player, obviously would fit the system, but is he worth such a high fee? Azpiliucueta has just signed a new deal, hopefully he will grow into the role more over the season. 

Reece James is a fantastic crosser of the ball, probably the best at the club. I'd have him instead of Zappacosta in a heartbeat, it would open up a foreign squad place, and let us use the funds in other areas. 

Left back is more of an issue for me, Emerson just doesn't seem to be trusted, and Alonso isn't the right fit for the system in my opinion. Maybe it will change next year.

Jay da silva and Castillo are the options in the youth ranks, but neither seems particularly close to getting an opportunity.

I would be all for Alex Telles from Porto, he has spoken about interest from us in the past, Porto are a fairly easy club to deal with, and he is a really good player, at the perfect age.

 
dkw said:
Come on, I like Reece and think he will go on to be a hell of a player but there simply is no way you can compare a young prospect who has played a couple of dozen times in the championship to a player who has several accomplished seasons in Serie A, its just ridiculous. 
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Obviously you can always compare any two players. You mean it's premature to conclude that the younger one is the better player when he hasn't yet competed at an equivalently high standard. Well, to me, that's just judging by rule rather than by observation; X is older, or X is playing at a higher level, so X must be better. I don't think that follows at all. You judge players by what you see of their attributes and by how they use them. Well, I've watched the two players and made a judgement which I think is based on those attributes. Naturally I may be wrong but I can't pretend to believe something when in fact I do not believe it. For me, Hysaj is not the better player.   

 
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OhForAGreavsie said:
Obviously you can always compare any two players. You mean it's premature to conclude that the younger one is the better player when he hasn't yet competed at an equivalently high standard. Well, to me, that's just judging by rule rather than by observation; X is older, or X is playing at a higher level, so X must be better. I don't think that follows at all. You judge players by what you see of their attributes and by how they use them. Well, I've watched the two players and made a judgement which I think is based on those attributes. Naturally I may be wrong but I can't pretend to believe something when in fact I do not believe it. For me, Hysaj is not the better player.   
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I think hysaj does still does a lot of things better than James does at the moment though. His defensive positioning is better, he keeps the ball better under pressure, tactically he knows when to time his runs, when he needs to cover. 

These are all attributes that generally come with experience, and playing at high level. 

So out of the two, I think hysaj has the edge right now, but Reece James is only 18/19, and he has the potential to be a world class right back.

 
big blue said:
Seen a hysaj a few times, decent player, obviously would fit the system, but is he worth such a high fee? Azpiliucueta has just signed a new deal, hopefully he will grow into the role more over the season. 

Reece James is a fantastic crosser of the ball, probably the best at the club. I'd have him instead of Zappacosta in a heartbeat, it would open up a foreign squad place, and let us use the funds in other areas. 

Left back is more of an issue for me, Emerson just doesn't seem to be trusted, and Alonso isn't the right fit for the system in my opinion. Maybe it will change next year.

Jay da silva and Castillo are the options in the youth ranks, but neither seems particularly close to getting an opportunity.

I would be all for Alex Telles from Porto, he has spoken about interest from us in the past, Porto are a fairly easy club to deal with, and he is a really good player, at the perfect age.
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Or try and buy Ake back from Bournemouth and play him left back. Will also help the home grown situation with Cahill, Fabregas, Drinkwater Moses likely leaving.

 
jack_super_class said:
Or try and buy Ake back from Bournemouth and play him left back. Will also help the home grown situation with Cahill, Fabregas, Drinkwater Moses likely leaving.
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I've never been impressed with Ake at left back, I don't think he offers enough going forward.

In terms of homegrown left backs, I like Ben chilwell from Leicester. 

 
big blue said:
I've never been impressed with Ake at left back, I don't think he offers enough going forward.

In terms of homegrown left backs, I like Ben chilwell from Leicester. 
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Same i like Chilwell too just felt Ake would be easier to get if we have a buyback or first option as reported.

 
With the rumour that we've accepted a loan offer from Lazio to take Zappacosta until the end of the season and then a likely purchase don't rule out us making a move for Hysaj before the end of the month. 

Apparently he's growing increasingly frustrated at his lack of playing time under Ancelotti. 

Some seemingly poorly translated quotes from his agent can be found here: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1067365/Chelsea-transfer-news-Elseid-Hysaj-Napoli

Gist of it, he says “If he (Hysaj) is seen as an alternative (not first choice for Napoli) we will ask for a sale in January."

Apparently has a £45m release clause but if he's deemed surplus we might get him for less. 

 
ForeverCarefree said:
With the rumour that we've accepted a loan offer from Lazio to take Zappacosta until the end of the season and then a likely purchase don't rule out us making a move for Hysaj before the end of the month. 

Apparently he's growing increasingly frustrated at his lack of playing time under Ancelotti. 

Some seemingly poorly translated quotes from his agent can be found here: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1067365/Chelsea-transfer-news-Elseid-Hysaj-Napoli

Gist of it, he says “If he (Hysaj) is seen as an alternative (not first choice for Napoli) we will ask for a sale in January."

Apparently has a £45m release clause but if he's deemed surplus we might get him for less. 
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His market value according to transfermarkt is £20.7m, I don't think he's worth anywhere near £45m.

 
The values of Trasfermarket are ridiculous. Every transfer depends from who buys and from who sells. Napoli is a very solid club economically that has no need to sell. It's possible to buy the Napoli players only overpriced and not in Jenuary. Well with that said, Hysaj has wood feet and with Diawara is the worst Napoli player. Please buy him.  :biggrin:

 
Unless we bought an absolutely world class RB, I can't see any new signing ousting Dave within the next year or 2, so we should save the money and have Aina as the backup, as he can play RB and LB and as far as I know, has been impressing in Italy.

 
I agree what most are saying about our youth players being used but I’m disappointed to say all this talk of... Mount, James, Abraham, CHO etc etc. We’ll be lucky if a couple of our youth players make it to even be squad players irrelevant of talent.

Chelsea is not a youth player friendly club, we will always look to buy from outside instead of promotion our own. 

Which I’d be fine with if we’re buying the best in the world or players with really high ceilings but we don’t. We buy dross from other teams to fill out the squad ala Bakayoko, DD, Zappacosta etc... (I’m not saying he falls in to this list).

I’d love to be wrong and for all these players to break through but we’ve seen enough of this in the past, I just can’t see it.

Basically, we have the best RB in the league who is ONLY 29 & a fantastic prospect in James at 18/19. 

3 years time you’re talking 32 & 22 respectively and maybe they’ll be switching roles from start to back up. It just seems like wasting money on a position we don’t need to spend it on.

 
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Hopefully they don't bring this guy in. Not that I know of him, but from what I've seen of Reece James in the Championship, the kid deserves to backup Azpi and learn from him and be the heir apparent 

 
It has gone pretty quiet on that front, so I don't think it will be happening this month, if it even happens at all.

 
Saw a rumour quoted as being the MIrror saying we were interested though personally think we will now not strengthen here this window.

 
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