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I've yet to convey my condolences to my Feyenoord supporting former boss, but seriously, it what they deserve seeing they play YNWA too. And still they're not as horrid as Cleaning Solution FC!

 
icecoolguy22 said:
Good for Jose and Tammy to win a cup, although I still dont get the point of that cup, for those who aren't good enough to make it the knockout rounds of the Europa league?
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If they had kept the European Cup Winners Cup around they wouldn't have needed the Europa Conference League. I think there were just too many teams to accommodate in the Europa League.

 
sonic90 said:
Yes but also it's just another cup for lower level teams to strive to win. In England we have all kinds of trophies and vases below the FA Cup, it's good that there is more than the paltry 2 cups for the whole of Europe to compete for.

Roma haven't won a trophy for well over 10 years and they are full of joy tonight, it's a good thing for football.
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I'm usually one for saying a trophy is a trophy, but I don't feel anything for the Conference League. All I see is a competition that rewards mediocrity. If Roma haven't won anything for 10 years, it's because they haven't been good enough. This season, they haven't been good enough again, but they (and many other clubs) have been given an opportunity to win a trophy for being failures at the highest level. It devalues what it means to win a competition in my opinion. 

I also see people are now praising Mourinho for being the first to win the Champions League, Europa League and Conference League, but all this proves to me is how far he has fallen as a coach. A coach that was once mocking teams for playing in the Europa League is now kissing a trophy that rewards teams for being a bit sh*t.

I may have been able to accept a competition like this in the 90's to late 2000's, back when there was high quality players spread out all over Europe, but not today, not when the gap is so big.

 
Bring back the Cup Winners Cup, a great trophy that helped to give more value to the local Cups in every country. If that trophy was still around, it would be a more interesting and relevant one than the Europa League, and the Conference crap cup would not be necessary.

 
Scott Harris said:
I'm usually one for saying a trophy is a trophy, but I don't feel anything for the Conference League. All I see is a competition that rewards mediocrity. If Roma haven't won anything for 10 years, it's because they haven't been good enough. This season, they haven't been good enough again, but they (and many other clubs) have been given an opportunity to win a trophy for being failures at the highest level. It devalues what it means to win a competition in my opinion. 

I also see people are now praising Mourinho for being the first to win the Champions League, Europa League and Conference League, but all this proves to me is how far he has fallen as a coach. A coach that was once mocking teams for playing in the Europa League is now kissing a trophy that rewards teams for being a bit sh*t.

I may have been able to accept a competition like this in the 90's to late 2000's, back when there was high quality players spread out all over Europe, but not today, not when the gap is so big.
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It's a chance for the midtable teams or clubs that haven't won in years to compete for something on their level, in theory it sounds great but of course there are problems with it.
I don't think midtable teams have squads that are deep enough to play in Europe earnestly, there's going to be a load of playing reserves and seeing how far they get which devalues the competition.
Then you can genuinely have Man Utd level teams in this competition, they almost bloody made it as well. If they were in it I could see them smoking every team out there.

Right now it's a trophy that is only valuable in the right context, I can see it being a big deal to win for teams like Everton, WH, Wolves etc. But not Leicester because they won the League and FA cup even though they are part of that mix.

Same for the Super Cup which is pure bullsh*t for the European champions but way more valuable for the EL winners, I was happy we won it just to be able witness us do it in my lifetime but I wanted it so much more against Bayern and Liverpool.

 
Scott Harris said:
I'm usually one for saying a trophy is a trophy, but I don't feel anything for the Conference League. All I see is a competition that rewards mediocrity. If Roma haven't won anything for 10 years, it's because they haven't been good enough. This season, they haven't been good enough again, but they (and many other clubs) have been given an opportunity to win a trophy for being failures at the highest level. It devalues what it means to win a competition in my opinion. 

I also see people are now praising Mourinho for being the first to win the Champions League, Europa League and Conference League, but all this proves to me is how far he has fallen as a coach. A coach that was once mocking teams for playing in the Europa League is now kissing a trophy that rewards teams for being a bit sh*t.

I may have been able to accept a competition like this in the 90's to late 2000's, back when there was high quality players spread out all over Europe, but not today, not when the gap is so big.
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Were I can broadly understand your point, football has changed rapidly in the last 20 years in favour of the richer clubs. Presently we’re in the close season but even now before any additions to squads are made, we all can name the clubs who will finish in the European qualifying places bar the very odd aberration(Leicester). The gap between the wealthy and the rest has increased dramatically. A group of clubs in the middle, far from being mediocre simply can’t improve unless they have a Saudi prince investment. Hence trophies like the European Conference League develop in a similar way that League Cup, Anglo Scottish, Anglo Italian and Full Members Cup did in seasons gone by. It gives these clubs something to aim for after February.

 
Anyone see Rio Ferdinand put himself 1st in his top 5 defenders of all time? He then got into a row with JT over it. 

 
JM7 said:
Anyone see Rio Ferdinand put himself 1st in his top 5 defenders of all time? He then got into a row with JT over it. 
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Saw that on Twitter. Ferdinand shot himself in the foot by slating JT for producing all his career stats, as just trying inflate his own ego, but put himself top of his own list. 😂

 
Klopp winning the premier league manager of the year after spending 10 days at the top is farcical. 

 
Look how much it pained Rio to put Terry in his top 5. 😂

He knew he would get absolute sh*t if he didn’t yet still managed to make himself look like a mug by picking himself as #1. The pair of them are having a twitter battle and the comments on the video have Terry clear. 
 




 
1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Look how much it pained Rio to put Terry in his top 5. 😂

He knew he would get absolute sh*t if he didn’t yet still managed to make himself look like a mug by picking himself as #1. The pair of them are having a twitter battle and the comments on the video have Terry clear. 
 

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Why would anyone bring up racism when discussing with a player about their footballing record and whether should be or not on your top list?  It just helps very little the cause for antiracism in society that these twats keep bringing it up at the slightest sign of discussion about a totally different matter. A straw man argument helping no one.

 
Is this all because Terry retweeted a stat from another account? That is pathetic from Ferdinand, and you can just tell with that Tweet how much it annoyed him putting Terry in his top 5. He was probably seething about it and looking around on Twitter to pick his moment and call Terry out on something. The bloke needs to get a hobby.

 
Scott Harris said:
Is this all because Terry retweeted a stat from another account? That is pathetic from Ferdinand, and you can just tell with that Tweet how much it annoyed him putting Terry in his top 5. He was probably seething about it and looking around on Twitter to pick his moment and call Terry out on something. The bloke needs to get a hobby.
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Is pretty funny Rio believes he is number 1, when in fact he is not even top 5, and VVD sucking up to him too lol.

5 PL defenders better than Rio he did not pick in his top 5:

Carragher, Desailly, Campbell, King, Adams.

Note lack of club bias there too Rio.

 
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