Fredy Guarin - is he any good?

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I get the point Zeta is making and I think it's a fair one. 

Guarin is a good player that would excel in this league, anything under £15m is a great price for him make no mistake about it. The problem is this screams of a short term signing with no regard to the long term. His signing will have a negative effect on the likes of Ginkel, Chalobah, etc and I'm not so sure it's worth it. If Jose can make it work then I'll be a happy bunny but as it stands I can only see it turning sour. 
But are you saying that we should stick with Essien, Mikel, Lampard and Ramires while we wait to see if these promising players live up to their hype? We need to strengthen our midfield and if Van Ginkel/Chalobah prove to live up to their hype then Guarin or whoever we have will be fighting for a place, after all, it's not as if we're paying £50mil for a player that is going to start no matter how poor he's been......

 
Problem is Guarin is essentially another Ramires; another box to box player which won't make any sense, there are decent DMs out there in the market.
He's Ramires but physically stronger, and has more creativity and passing ability. He'll probably sit deeper while Ramires has license to attack, although he's capable of contributing to the attack himself when the moment presents itself.

 
Exactly the kind of player we need right now... oh wait

 
He's not that great but an improvement on Mikel and Essien. Then again my little mans probably better than they 2 and he's 2 next month. Would rather wait till the summer and go balls deep for someone similar to Fernandinho.

 
I'd rather we spend £50mm on Pogba, but then again I'm just greedy.

I'm happy with The idea of Guarin. If we sign him, I'd like to think it would work out.

 
Well, anyone's an improvement on Ramires. 

 
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This guy isn't even a DM; why are people suggesting he is?
& That is the point, Essien, Lampard, Ramires & MVG are all box-to-box midfielders, makes no sense adding another one to the mix. Why not Reges from Porto or even Schneiderlin from Southampton?

 
& That is the point, Essien, Lampard, Ramires & MVG are all box-to-box midfielders, makes no sense adding another one to the mix. Why not Reges from Porto or even Schneiderlin from Southampton?
What about the fact that 3 of the players you mentioned are pretty poor nowadays and the other is injured?

 
& That is the point, Essien, Lampard, Ramires & MVG are all box-to-box midfielders, makes no sense adding another one to the mix. Why not Reges from Porto or even Schneiderlin from Southampton?
Well I think we do need to upgrade because the first two will have very limited roles next season -- if any. MVG played as DLP during pre-season sitting behind Ramires so less of a B2B I'd assume (though in the 4-3-3 in Vitesse he did play the furthermost midfielder there). Ramires is quite a limited player and we'll need someone who offers something else. But then again, regarding the first two its for next season we could just wait to get someone cheaper rather than now where they'll be a lot more expensive. 

Nonetheless, a DM is needed definitely as well. 

 
This guy isn't even a DM; why are people suggesting he is? 
The key is he's versatile. He can play DM if we want him to, he is also that physical central midfield powerhouse that we've missed since Essien's legs ran out of battery, and has the passing range and creative vision from deep that we lack unless we carry along Lampard.

 
Guarin isn't very defensive though. Furthermore, his 'tracking back' is under par to the extent of which Mourinho expects and wants from his players, so I'm a bit surprised this transfer is happening. 

 
He's ok, but really, if we're going to spend a lot of money instead of promoting Chalobah or moving De Bruyne into a position he's actually effective in then we might as well go all out and buy top quality in Pogba. 

 
He's class

Might as well try to like him as it looks as though is pretty much a done deal.

 
Agent explains in detail how his star player would move to Chelsea

It seems that the Guarin situation is clearing up slightly. After a few weeks of speculation and a lot of articles written about Manchester United's and Chelsea's interest in the Colombian midfielder, Guarín's agent, Marcelo Ferreyra, took time out of his schedule to give an interview for Colombian radio station Caracol and clarify the situation surrounding his client:

“At this moment in time, I am in Milan. What we can confirm is Chelsea's interest who want to meet with Fredy. They've already spoken with Inter. There is yet to be an agreement and they haven't given them leave to speak with Fredy privately. I went with Inter representatives to London to meet with Chelsea's representatives in order to officialise their interest, which is part of the negotiation process. There needs to be agreements from all parties in order to complete a transfer. If not, Fredy is very happy and comfortable here (in Milan). We also need to know about Chelsea's football project surrounding Fredy. We are not kamikazes. We don't just negotiate with the first club that comes along and expresses an interest. For him to leave, it would need to be a major project because of the World Cup in the summer. This isn't an easy situation, and we want to approach it safely.â€

When asked of the reported interest of both Manchester clubs: “These are clubs that we are analysing as an alternative. I've heard of an alleged demand by Inter that cannot be made official. We hope that we can meet with Thohir (the new president) in the next few days in order to get an idea of what football project they have in mind for Fredy at Interâ€

It's clear that Fredy Guarin and his agent are in no rush to complete a move before the window is opened. Ferreyra is aware that they have up until and the whole of January to complete any transfer but was keen to point out that the priority is to find out Inter's stance on the matter before seriously talking to other clubs.

Ferreyra was also reluctant to talk about the price at which his client would be available: “It is a private matter between two clubs and I will not say anything. We have agreed with Fredy that we would not talk with any club from Friday onwards to focus on the derby. We will listen to any proposals until Friday, then nothing until the 3rd, 4th or 5th of January.â€

With Chelsea's interest being the more advanced, it seems very likely that Guarín, if he finds himself left out of Inter's plans in the near future, could move to London during the January transfer window. It's also important to point out that the player would not be cup-tied for the Champions League (Inter finished 9th in Serie A last year).

As for now, unless there are huge developments over the next few days (doubtful, considering Chelsea's need to prepare for Monday's fixture against Arsenal), there shouldn't be too much on this story until the beginning of January, as stated by Marcelo Ferreyra.

Players are also allowed a bit of a break over Christmas and New Year's. They're only human, after all.
 
Well, anyone's an improvement on Ramires. 

He would not be an improvement on Ramires.

And he is arguably the most important player in our squad right now, so how you can talk him down as a Chelsea fan I'll never know 

 
He would not be an improvement on Ramires.

And he is arguably the most important player in our squad right now, so how you can talk him down as a Chelsea fan I'll never know 
Of course he would -- I'm not sure how easily he'll adapt but based on how well he does at Inter he would be an improvement. 

He is the most important player because we have no other alternative, do we?

Ramires is not that good; he is an exceptionally limited player and I have absolutely no idea why some of you seem rate him so highly. I don't really want him starting for Chelsea in the future. 

 
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