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And Bakayoko wasn’t wrapped up quickly, the deal wasn’t announced until a good few weeks after he had a medical I seem to remember.

 
ForeverCarefree said:
I think they definitely leave things late as a negotiating tactic. 

They've shown they're capable of getting deals wrapped up quickly (Costa, Fabregas, Bakayoko, Jorginho) but a lot of recent transfers (Alonso, Emerson, Giroud, Zappacosta, Luiz) have been left until the final day(s) of the window. 

When you look at how quickly other clubs complete their transfer business, not just in England but throughout Europe, I can't help but think it's a conscious decision by the club for it to be such a regular occurrence. 
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Tottenham do the same with transfer deals, we are not alone. 

Whilst we fans probably don't care much about the difference between a 30m transfer and a 35m one, it is quite significant for a club. 

On the last day the buying club can really put more pressure on the price. Because the selling club will be walking away from a lot of money if it doesnt go through.

 
ForeverCarefree said:
I think they definitely leave things late as a negotiating tactic. 
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I don't think it is purposely done, it's a bit like buying a house in a chain, nobody wants to sell until a replacement has been found.

 
abramovich said:
Every deal is different. When they see a good value in getting it done quickly and all is in place (selling club's happy with the offer and so is the player in question), they're probably able to wrap it up relatively fast. But there are many factors involved in every potential transfer, you have to deal with a player, his agents, his club and a competition from other suitors. It's easy to say, let's get it done quickly, but if the player is in high demand and doesn't necessarily view CFC as a preferred destination, then you find yourself in the midst of an auction that may take time and energy away from other possible targets and there are no guarantees you'll win it in the end and how much it'll ultimately cost you, if you do.

As for other top clubs, both Manc clubs only had one major signing each so far (Mahrez, Fred), right?
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Of course every deal is different but we've definitely seen a trend at Chelsea with leaving it late to sign players. It's become a regular theme of our transfer windows now, probably more so than any other top 6 club. 

Mourinho this week is bemoaning the lack of transfer activity at United, they've signed Fred and the young fullback Dalot but he seems to want another centre back and maybe an attacker to replace Martial. I saw an article from The Times' Oliver Kay suggesting that the lack of a Director of Football at United has lead to a poor long term vision from the club. 

City would have had Mahrez and Jorginho if we hadn't snatched the latter at the last minute, which would have been some really impressive business on their part. They don't really need much recruitment, I would expect a midfielder and maybe a fullback but they'll probably stick with the team from last season. 

benjsross said:
Tottenham do the same with transfer deals, we are not alone. 
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Spurs leave it super late for their transfers and their fans are frustrated by it. I think their bubble might burst soon, they've relied heavily on one or two players coming up with the goods for a couple of seasons now without bringing in any real quality to try and improve the overall squad, just seems like they keep signing squad players. 

coco said:
I don't think it is purposely done, it's a bit like buying a house in a chain, nobody wants to sell until a replacement has been found.
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I think there's reluctance to pay the sort of money that pushes through the big transfers quickly. 

If the right sort of money is there even the biggest clubs will sell without necessarily having an immediate replacement lined up. 

But then whilst those around us have been paying £40/50/60m regularly we've tended to be a lot more restrained, not really going above £30m for the most part. Morata and Bakayoko were recent exceptions so maybe the club had a point! 

 
ForeverCarefree said:
But then whilst those around us have been paying £40/50/60m regularly we've tended to be a lot more restrained, not really going above £30m for the most part. Morata and Bakayoko were recent exceptions so maybe the club had a point! 
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If the rumours are true about a second bid for the club, then it would become clear why we have put the brakes on the spending in this window.

 
coco said:
If the r?umours are true about a second bid for the club, then it would become clear why we have put the brakes on the spending in this window.
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If there was genuine interest from Roman to sell the club, sacking Conte and hiring Sarri just seems strange to me. 

Why go through all that hassle and deal with compensation pay outs when you're only going to hand over the club to someone else? 

I've not seen anyone credible speculate about a possible sale of the club, last one I saw was from The Secret Footballer (Dave Kitson) who isn't creditable at all. 

I can't see it myself right now. 

 
Don't know what anyone was expecting really. Given our recent history of faffing around and then making panic buys, and the shortened transfer window this year, it's remarkable we've even signed a single player. I don't expect any others to come in now.

 
Manchester City dont need to spend much this window since their squad is already stacked with quality and have depth, which is not the case for us. So comparing our transfer activity to theirs this summer is deceiving. We need another winger/attacking player maybe two. Maybe a cover/backup for Kante. That's it really but we haven't addressed the deadwood in the team yet with 10 days left. 

 
I like transfers on deadline day, along as its not the likes of Zappacosta and Drinkwater. I don't think our squad is bad.

 
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ForeverCarefree said:
If there was genuine interest from Roman to sell the club, sacking Conte and hiring Sarri just seems strange to me. 

Why go through all that hassle and deal with compensation pay outs when you're only going to hand over the club to someone else? 

I've not seen anyone credible speculate about a possible sale of the club, last one I saw was from The Secret Footballer (Dave Kitson) who isn't creditable at all. 

I can't see it myself right now. 
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You wouldn't hear any 'credible' rumours even if it was true. When Roman bought Chelsea we didn't hear anything until it happened, completely out of the Blue.

If you want some maybe 'credible' evidence, then look no further than the new stadium plans being shelved.

 
We are waiting for Courtois , Willian and Hazard to tell us exactly what they want before we do any transfers. Hazard will likely to stay, but he'd probably have a say about Courtois and Willian's next destination. Courtois will screw us over one last time, seriously I bet he will say things like he's focused on the new season, or wait 30/8 to tell us he's ready to go. Willian deserves to have his opinions heard, again we are putting everything on hold for these players. We shouldn't have dealt with Juventus at all, obviously we haven't learnt from the last couple of years. Supposedly we had formal talks with them, now we know they only interested to sell us a CB they didn't want, for some 35M, f* them!

 
Courtois I suspect will see out his contract. We can't get a good enough replacement right now, he wont down tools as he will want madrid to sign him next year.

If willian leaves then we need a replacement. But we aren't under any great pressure to sell and he will work as hard as he always has.

We seem to be in the market for another midfielder, but we don't really need one. 

I'm quite happy with our window, we've added to the squad with jorginho. Morata / bats are good enough. We've also added to our squad with RLC and a fit again Barkley. 

Our squad as it stands is good enough for top 3.

 
coco said:
You wouldn't hear any 'credible' rumours even if it was true. When Roman bought Chelsea we didn't hear anything until it happened, completely out of the Blue.

If you want some maybe 'credible' evidence, then look no further than the new stadium plans being shelved.
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I viewed the stadium rebuilding being put on hold as a reaction to Roman not getting his visa renewed. 

I know I wouldn't want to invest £1bn into something if I was being told I couldn't actually enjoy it. 

 
zes said:
Manchester City dont need to spend much this window since their squad is already stacked with quality and have depth, which is not the case for us. So comparing our transfer activity to theirs this summer is deceiving. We need another winger/attacking player maybe two. Maybe a cover/backup for Kante. That's it really but we haven't addressed the deadwood in the team yet with 10 days left. 
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As you say there isn't much to do in terms of buying unless a first team player leaves I.e. swap Willian for Martial, Morata for Higuain, Courtois for ... maybe Pickford Or Reina. 

But we have an absolutely massive list of players that really need shipping (1Rb,  2CBs, 2CMs, 1St and atleast another 15 members of the loan army) although I suppose we can send people abroad after the window shuts.

Lots to do in not much time hopefully we are an upgrade on either Willian or Pedro and I wouldn't mind an upgrade on Morata but that doesn't look likely.

 
From reading the various rumours that are out there I see the 3 linked to leave as such:

Little to no chance hazard is going. Our price is too high for real and Barca, eden wont force the issue so he will end up staying. Now that is not to say he will sign a new deal. If he really fancies a switch I reckon he will put contract talks on hold till he sees how we do with sarri. Knowing with 1 year left next summer his price drops so more likely to get a move then if he still wants it.

Tibo I think goes. We are not in business of losing good players for free. I think our emergancy backup is butland. Not ideal, not as good as tibo nor has the distribution sarri wants but would offer resale value. Or we just accept a loss of 9mill and bring in Reina. Either way I don't believe we will let go of 30-35mill and let tibo run down his deal.

Willian is one we are 50/50 on imo. Happy to keep him, not determined enough to do so to turn down silly money. Is up to United or whoever to make that offer, and Jose may just push them in to doing so.

 
zes said:
Manchester City dont need to spend much this window since their squad is already stacked with quality and have depth, which is not the case for us.
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Actually, it appears to be exactly that the case for us. the quality is in there, this group became champions twice in 3 years. So it's all about the depth and let's catch a glimpse on the bench:

Caballero, Moses(to Dave), Alonso(to Emerson), Christensen, Cahill(assuming Luiz and Rudiger starters), Fabregas(to Jorginho), RLC(to Barkley or the opposite), Pedro, CHO, Bats or Morata(to Giroud or any variation). I don't count Drinkwater, Bakayoko + 1 or 2 possible new players.

Looks pretty good depth.

 
Giordano_Bruno said:
Actually, it appears to be exactly that the case for us. the quality is in there, this group became champions twice in 3 years. So it's all about the depth and let's catch a glimpse on the bench:

Caballero, Moses(to Dave), Alonso(to Emerson), Christensen, Cahill(assuming Luiz and Rudiger starters), Fabregas(to Jorginho), RLC(to Barkley or the opposite), Pedro, CHO, Bats or Morata(to Giroud or any variation). I don't count Drinkwater, Bakayoko + 1 or 2 possible new players.

Looks pretty good depth.
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The highlighted are a big no to me. The others in the list I agree with though I think a RW and a ST are important to upgrade (CHO plays on the left so Pedro has no back up) and all of our strikers are far from convincing. I think Bats could do well.  We also saw Zappacosta play RB last two games he can rotate with Azpi

 
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zes said:
The highlighted are a big no to me. The others in the list I agree with though I think a RW and a ST are important to upgrade (CHO plays on the left so Pedro has no back up) and all of our strikers are far from convincing. I think Bats could do well.  We also saw Zappacosta play RB last two games he can rotate with Azpi
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I would prefer Moses over Zappacosta. Zappacosta has done nothing in his time with us that suggests he is anything other than mid table player at best. Moses at least has his moments and is actually quite decent defensively. Also, if we are chasing a win, Moses would be a good weapon to bring off the bench. He may not have great end product, but his attacking instincts are much better than Zappacosta's and he could be an extra player to add to the attack if needed. I think Azpilicueta and Moses are good enough, even Rudiger can play there so i think we are covered in that area. I would rather we sold Zappacosta and put the money towards a RW.

 
Scott Harris said:
I would prefer Moses over Zappacosta. Zappacosta has done nothing in his time with us that suggests he is anything other than mid table player at best. Moses at least has his moments and is actually quite decent defensively. Also, if we are chasing a win, Moses would be a good weapon to bring off the bench. He may not have great end product, but his attacking instincts are much better than Zappacosta's and he could be an extra player to add to the attack if needed. I think Azpilicueta and Moses are good enough, even Rudiger can play there so i think we are covered in that area. I would rather we sold Zappacosta and put the money towards a RW.
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100% agree with this. I noticed that Sarri brought Moses on at RW last game, which worries me and makes me believe Zappacosta will be kept as backup to Azpi ffs.

 
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