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Fulham v Chelsea (PL) Thur 12th Jan 2023 20:00 GMT

I don't care what formation or system we play. I just don't want to see Auba, Ziyech, Havertz or Jorginho start for us ever again. No heart, no fight, no skill, no cojones, no nothing! We've given them enough chances to prove their value and is it turns out they're all garbage(Jorginho used to be actually decent). Start playing youngsters instead of them and get rid of them on asap!

 
axman2526 said:
Wait does that mean you believed we would beat City in the last 2 games?
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In the recent years even when we were in a bad shape we used to show up against the very best teams... This time around even if I don't know how is Fulham's squad doing I just can't see us winning.

 
Chelsea supporters are so incredibly reactionary. Shortsighted. Always has been.. I'm in no way saying that Potter has done anythig remotely like a fantastic job so far, but all the talk of sacking the guy feels like a yearly recurring trope going on some 15 years now. Every single time it's "he's lost the dressing room!! get rid!!".

Ask yourself what signal this sends to players when they can perform like sh%t at their job and the only consequence is that your boss gets fired. Again and again. "Palpable discord". Again. What happens in the normal world if your performance at work sucks because "my boss didn't motivate me this month"? It's honestly like a kindergarten full of extra big toddlers with fat wallets. 

Time to cut the cord on this song and dance. Even if that means we end up midtable this year and the next. Get the non-performers, at the very least the ones that consistently does not make maximum effort, out of the club and only after that assess the manager. 

 
Cfc91 said:
Chelsea supporters are so incredibly reactionary. Shortsighted. Always has been.. I'm in no way saying that Potter has done anythig remotely like a fantastic job so far, but all the talk of sacking the guy feels like a yearly recurring trope going on some 15 years now.
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We didn't want Tuchel sacked. Just before Tuchel got the sack we did a poll on here to see how many wanted him sacked, it was about 90% in his favour, despite the poor performances the fans were unified behind him, with just a few fans with personal agendas against TT who we should completely ignore.

 
coco said:
We didn't want Tuchel sacked. Just before Tuchel got the sack we did a poll on here to see how many wanted him sacked, it was about 90% in his favour, despite the poor performances the fans were unified behind him, with just a few fans with personal agendas against TT who we should completely ignore.
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I don't think you got the essence of my post. Tuchel and Ancelotti may not have had the whole supporter base screaming at the point of sacking, I agree. However - at the time of the Tuchel firing we were already playing awful football and it was probably just a matter of time before dissenting voices got even louder. 

My point though: We need to stop this player power dressing room bullsh%t. I'd rather we did that "yesterday" but the next best time is now. 

 
I'd love to see Hall get another start personally.

Other than that, Jorginho and Kai don't deserve to start based on Sunday.

Get Zak in the midfield with Kova, maybe give Carney a go from the start, I think he's played well recently in his cameos

 
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coco said:
That is half a team of World cup players, versus Fulham, no excuses.
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City, Arsenal, United and Spurs all thrashed Fulham 2-1, now we have a fully fit squad I expect us to win by 4 clear goals.

 
Gol15 said:
In the recent years even when we were in a bad shape we used to show up against the very best teams... This time around even if I don't know how is Fulham's squad doing I just can't see us winning.
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As the Vicd captain part of your task is making others believe Jorgi boy  😉

 
axman2526 said:
As the Vicd captain part of your task is making others believe Jorgi boy  😉
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Name's Santitos Andrew. I just came to the club and I'm already better than the Brazilian immigrant in Italy.

 
Gol15 said:
Name's Santitos Andrew. I just came to the club and I'm already better than the Brazilian immigrant in Italy.
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You were born in Brazil that is true, bit spent many years in Italy under daddy Sarri and play for their national side.

You also have terrible fashion sense as your holiday swim trunks showed.

 
alvarezCFC said:
I don't care what formation or system we play. I just don't want to see Auba, Ziyech, Havertz or Jorginho start for us ever again. No heart, no fight, no skill, no cojones, no nothing! We've given them enough chances to prove their value and is it turns out they're all garbage(Jorginho used to be actually decent). Start playing youngsters instead of them and get rid of them on asap!
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Mate, I completely agree with you, although I would probably add KK and Pulisic to your list!

 
axman2526 said:
You were born in Brazil that is true, bit spent many years in Italy under daddy Sarri and play for their national side.

You also have terrible fashion sense as your holiday swim trunks showed.
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Ithink we can win this game comfortably. We have had a tough run with injuries, some hard games against man c and no recognized top level striker. Our defence was ageing badly.  We have a manager unproven at winning top level comps or managing world standard players. 
 

despite all that we have a. Lots of talent and well capable of beating the likes of Fulham.  we will only improve. 
 

potter may not work out but in this case he does deserve quite a bit more time. 
 

 
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Win this one, lose the next one? Or maybe win a couple, then lose a couple? Welcome to mid-table life. Could be worse.

 
Fulham away has traditionally never been a walk in the park even when the teams been in top form, so I'm grasping onto the paradoxical straw that now Chelsea is a a mid table team with inferior 2 bob players they will in fact walk out onto the pitch at The Cottage and batter Fulham !

Hat trick for Havertz so there !!

 
OnePeterOsgood said:
Mate, I completely agree with you, although I would probably add KK and Pulisic to your list!
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Although those two have been kinda poor too, I wouldn't put them in the same pot with those 4. Imo managers and players deserve at least a full season before fully judged...which falls on KK.  And Pulisic at least puts in some effort even though he does fall on his arse pretty easy😅

 
I think we’ll lose this one. Fulham on a good run, confident etc. We are the worst team in the league, can’t score goals or create. Their crowd will be up for it. Recipe for disaster 

 
axman2526 said:
Given Potter is half a season in to hit 5 year 60mill deal, and his staff were given similar length contracts then it may well cost 60mill to sack them and possibly another pay out if a replacement is coming directly from another club. If that is so you are getting to Enzo figures just to dismiss a manager, coaches and hire their replacements.
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I can’t believe there isn’t a payout clause (please God)

 
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