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Mike Carefree said:
There is a lot i dont know......I always thought Hickey was the original GENERAL in the original headhunters....and wasnt he from Tonbridge or tunbridge wells.
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I don't know how far Star goes back, but going back to '71, which is when I started going, there was a black bloke called Allie (maybe Ally or Ali) known as the General. I couldn't tell you where he lived but I do know he had a London accent.

Nice bloke as I recall.

 
from what I remember ,sh was around from about 77/ well ,started to get noticed , Sunderland away was when a few say , but at Newcastle which I mentioned in another post I can remember a few of us hanging around with him , then the first coach trip tp man u , which he organized ,shown him for some one who could call things , but it was still babs and dh that called the shots back then ,well 76 when we started to get involved , early trips to millwall ,Bolton ,spurs .the northbank arsenal when we took it , leading the first time was dh , the second time babs with little s ,one game person ,

but with dh ,was a few people that help out , Glasgow S ,if anyone remembers him? and tom from Islington ,he was a caretaker , the one we met up with to got to millwall when we went in the cbl ,

there was also different firms that went , Stockwell , Battersea and so on , but us lot from nw London in the early days followed either dh or babs , but I think babs took over from dh slightly because we would meet up down the west end on Friday /Saturday nights down clubs, well mainly the Sundance at Tottenham court rd ,which I can't remember dh doing ?this was late 70s ,

you had greenaway ,but he wasn't know as firm as such when we started going ,with some of our lot from nw London , by the mid to late 80s one or two started to get know and sort things, but will keep of here ,

as for Jenkins , when I went with some arsenal mates to see them play at Ipswich ?77 ,we went in there end , and kicked of , OB went to nick me , and he pulled me away , and saved me , he wasn't as well know as other arsenal face's , but he was sweet as , a nice bloke , better than quite a few I met over the years at football , including a few at ours ,

but babs did have a one on one with him at saint pancras station when we went for a walk around , and he nicked his red bobble hat he all ways wore ,got other things to post , but don't want posted to get long winded ,lol

 
SH  was certainly at the Sunderland away in 1975 can remember him giving us a speech from a perched position above the exit stairs at the end of the game holding up a St Georges flag?, :rolleyes:  and giving out instructions on what to do !!!!  :biggrin:

 
Nitro said:
SH was certainly at the Sunderland away in 1975 can remember him giving us a speech from a perched position above the exit stairs at the end of the game holding up a St Georges flag?, :rolleyes: and giving out instructions on what to do !!!! :biggrin:
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Yeah that's in he's book I think. Top stuff. Went mental after that so I read

 
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Sunderland away 1975 definatly in my all time top 5 away trips from the time the first special arrived at Seaburn to when the train broke down at St Neots.

The look on the Old Bill and the Sunderland fans faces as we charged off the train was priceless all they kept saing nobody ever comes not even Man U

 
Nitro said:
SH  was certainly at the Sunderland away in 1975 can remember him giving us a speech from a perched position above the exit stairs at the end of the game holding up a St Georges flag?, :rolleyes:  and giving out instructions on what to do !!!!  :biggrin:
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remember that , he certainly got notice at that game ,and the offs by the docks , that row i think we got lucky with , as we nearly got split up ,and just held , but after that we done well ,but Sunderland had a top firm then and some game blokes , always respected them ,,the couple i remember sh first sorting out , was Sheffield utd mid week night game ,when we came out , we got away from the main cfc crowd , and came up behind the Sheffield lot, when they were trying to get at the cfc escort near a big library , town hall sort of building on a square ,we just steamed straight into the back of them , with the main escort then clearing the rest of the Sheffield firm all over the place ,one time we got a plain to work properly after a few f**k ups ,lol ,also the Blackburn game at there's ,sh had organized the trip for us . when we got of at Crewe waiting for ,i think man u ? but ob put us back on a train to Blackburn , when we got there , the amount of ob waiting for us was unreal , nearly more ob than us , rather than go out of the main gate , we went out of a side gate to get away from the ob , but they soon caught us , as lead us through the streets to the ground ,

playing hide and seek from the ob on the rail way was unreal when you think of things ,

 
I went to that Sunderland game first game of the season 1975/76 aged 14. Told my parents I was going to a party after planning the train trains,arrive back kings cross 10 o clock hour across London by tube so told them i'll be in at 11-30.Went with a few older mates who were looking after me,remember getting a escort from seaburn station and as we got to the away end Sunderland were inside on the stairs up giving verbals,they soon moved as Chelsea got in.And then the train breaking down and running across fields.Got  home at 6 0 clock in the morning and my old man gave me a right hiding as he knew where I had been.cost of the train £4.90.

 
First saw him in the FA Cup away at Orient dressed in the Gorilla suit.

I'm sure he climbed up the floodlight before getting nicked.

I guess you won't see his like again.

 
Mike Carefree said:
STAR......please explain :smile:
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I first met the guy before I first took my son to watch Chelsea, so it would have been the late 80's or early 90's

It was on the last Kings Cross train to Edinburgh on a Saturday I believe. He was a softly spoken Scot dressed casually

and older than me. I would have been around 27 then so I would have put him at 39 ish back then. A slightly built fella

about 5ft 8 with long shoulder length hair.

Many years later I met him in the 'Flying Scotsman' pub in Kings Cross, sinking a few and obviously there for the strippers.

It was then he recalled our first meeting and told me his was known to Chelsea fans as 'The General'

 
oldnorthstand said:
from what I remember ,sh was around from about 77/ well ,started to get noticed , Sunderland away was when a few say , but at Newcastle which I mentioned in another post I can remember a few of us hanging around with him , then the first coach trip tp man u , which he organized ,shown him for some one who could call things , but it was still babs and dh that called the shots back then ,well 76 when we started to get involved , early trips to millwall ,Bolton ,spurs .the northbank arsenal when we took it , leading the first time was dh , the second time babs with little s ,one game person ,but with dh ,was a few people that help out , Glasgow S ,if anyone remembers him? and tom from Islington ,he was a caretaker , the one we met up with to got to millwall when we went in the cbl ,there was also different firms that went , Stockwell , Battersea and so on , but us lot from nw London in the early days followed either dh or babs , but I think babs took over from dh slightly because we would meet up down the west end on Friday /Saturday nights down clubs, well mainly the Sundance at Tottenham court rd ,which I can't remember dh doing ?this was late 70s ,you had greenaway ,but he wasn't know as firm as such when we started going ,with some of our lot from nw London , by the mid to late 80s one or two started to get know and sort things, but will keep of here ,as for Jenkins , when I went with some arsenal mates to see them play at Ipswich ?77 ,we went in there end , and kicked of , OB went to nick me , and he pulled me away , and saved me , he wasn't as well know as other arsenal face's , but he was sweet as , a nice bloke , better than quite a few I met over the years at football , including a few at ours ,but babs did have a one on one with him at saint pancras station when we went for a walk around , and he nicked his red bobble hat he all ways wore ,got other things to post , but don't want posted to get long winded ,lol
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oldnorthstand said:
from what I remember ,sh was around from about 77/ well ,started to get noticed , Sunderland away was when a few say , but at Newcastle which I mentioned in another post I can remember a few of us hanging around with him , then the first coach trip tp man u , which he organized ,shown him for some one who could call things , but it was still babs and dh that called the shots back then ,well 76 when we started to get involved , early trips to millwall ,Bolton ,spurs .the northbank arsenal when we took it , leading the first time was dh , the second time babs with little s ,one game person ,but with dh ,was a few people that help out , Glasgow S ,if anyone remembers him? and tom from Islington ,he was a caretaker , the one we met up with to got to millwall when we went in the cbl ,there was also different firms that went , Stockwell , Battersea and so on , but us lot from nw London in the early days followed either dh or babs , but I think babs took over from dh slightly because we would meet up down the west end on Friday /Saturday nights down clubs, well mainly the Sundance at Tottenham court rd ,which I can't remember dh doing ?this was late 70s ,you had greenaway ,but he wasn't know as firm as such when we started going ,with some of our lot from nw London , by the mid to late 80s one or two started to get know and sort things, but will keep of here ,as for Jenkins , when I went with some arsenal mates to see them play at Ipswich ?77 ,we went in there end , and kicked of , OB went to nick me , and he pulled me away , and saved me , he wasn't as well know as other arsenal face's , but he was sweet as , a nice bloke , better than quite a few I met over the years at football , including a few at ours ,but babs did have a one on one with him at saint pancras station when we went for a walk around , and he nicked his red bobble hat he all ways wore ,got other things to post , but don't want posted to get long winded ,lol
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terrific post mate
 
Old Northstand, Would love to here tales from London United when Chelsea/Millwall/Arsenal/Westham etc teamed up for a short period of time to give it too especially the mancs, Have heard a few stories and heard it went sour when babs and the westham fella fell out,any chance of a bit of enlightenment.

probably good for a thread not sure if it has been spoken about on here.

 
Arsenals mobs band, " the riders of the night " have a song that mentions the combined mob  " they reckon mostly Arse and CFC

will attach link here in fairness bloody good song ! especially for us more vintage lads :-)

The Midnight Patrol  ( lead singer Mick the Binns   aka Binnsy )

http://youtu.be/lmEdW3YbQBw

 
Picture taken last night in Philippines during a live performance by a rock band

Lucky he dont get on the internet or i would have to keep a low one for a bit !   :biggrin:

The General caught napping by local mob of pikey ICF  wonder what he is dreaming about ?

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too be honest , I only went to a few London utd meets , I was a bit to young, first time I went with some mates ,I was just 15, we use to meet up with the young ones a few times around Euston , and kings cross, as I lived more or less next to Euston, quite a few met up when man utd played the mid week game against millwall , and got well and truly battered , well the ones that turned up did around Euston ,any man u that showed got battered at millwall as well ,

the last real meet I went too was a cup game ,with Newcastle down west end , and was going off all over Piccadilly and leister sq ,it was also the meet when everyone turned on the spurs lot , as they started to sing spurs songs , as singing you own clubs songs was really a no no , as there was no in fighting surprisingly ,even with millwall and whu ,it was quite friendly with other firms ,

but you also got to meet blokes from other firms , millwall and west ham all ways seamed to had the older growlers ,

funny thing was ,around the mid to late 70s , the y*ds had a lot of older growlers , big old Greek looking grizzly's, but they seamed to disappear after a few seasons ? see if you can find the photo of ss and the y*d face called the Greek , 6 of em fronting the icf in the middle of the road , good photo , eleven if its the y*ds

,the main fall out seamed to be about a few wanted to be top dog, ,but they took it to the scots as well , shame I wasn't older back then , the meets you use to hear about and get told about were mad meets , fight with visiting firms , jocks , any one that was up for it ,if we went to a meet after a game at Chelsea , we always went with babs , and even to nights out down west on Saturdays after games , and would still meet up with some other London firms

, there was even a time when we went to go down the Notting hill carnival after the riots the year before there , a hole train load of cfc left Fulham Broadway ,other London firms were meant to be going as well ,but as the train got to Notting hill, it didn't stop though and went straight on to Edgware road , and was held there for what seamed ages , it turns out the OB knew about it ,the 70s was unreal for these kind of meets ,shame i can't really remember properly some of the times ,as it was so long ago ,and most weekends after home games , not all the meets were rows either, some were just plain piss ups with mates from other firms if I'm honest ,lol , 

 
The remember the 'the London Utd' meets in the mid to late Seventies as said previously it was mainly Chels and Arsenal we used to meet for a drink on Monday nights in a pub in Villiers St then go off to either the Sundowner or Lyceum.

The first Saturday one I went to was Man City - Newcastle League Cup final in 1976 loadsa offs with the Geordies The following FA Cup final was even worse the Mancs got well battered remember seeing some getting stabbed on the steps at Trafalger Square.

Can't recall seeing many Spurs there everybody hated them anyway I would have thought 75% at least were Chelsea or Arsenal.

I remember going up the Kings Road after one game as well to let the Punks and Teds Know who really ruled the Kings Road

 
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