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Davey Baby said:
Basically if I were Sarri, I'd make a decision pronto on Zappacosta or Moses, and lose one of them. There's a danger in having too many players in your squad. Same with CB. We currently have 6. I'd lose 2. No idea why we're going after another supposedly. I agree with you about winger. I'd love to see an exciting young winger come in but we'd have to lose either Pedro or Willian. I have a sneaky suspicion Willian might go. Basically this is our only chance to get top dollar for him, because of his age and contract status.
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I'd ditch Zappacosta, it makes the most sense.

Moses is homegrown, solid enough defensively, can attack (end product isn't great though) can play multiple positions. He's a great squad player and has proven to be important to us at times. Zappacosta is mediocre at everything, not as versatile as Moses, and he's taking up a non homegrown spot in the team. If we want to bring another player in then somebody has to go and if I had to pick anybody it would be Zappacosta.

If Sarri goes with Zappacosta, then i can't help but feel it will be because he is Italian.

 
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chi blue said:
Looks like we may have dodged a bullet there. Need someone up front though.
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You all underestimate greatly Higuain, whoever gets him will have a great player, he is definetly stronger as a forward than most of  the current forwards in EPL and Sarri knows how to get the best out of him, anyway he is closing with Milan that got a very good deal and it annoys the hell out of me. 

 
B&Wlegends said:
You all underestimate greatly Higuain, whoever gets him will have a great player, he is definetly stronger as a forward than most of  the current forwards in EPL and Sarri knows how to get the best out of him, anyway he is closing with Milan that got a very good deal and it annoys the hell out of me. 
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I dont think theres much doubt higuian is a fantastic striker, I think the worries come from his age and his mobility, and whether or not he would be able to adapt to the premier league. If you also consider the price and wages, then it's easy to see why many chrlsea fans didn't wants this to happen.

We've been here before with shevchenko who was world class, but he struggled to adapt to English football, as he came here a couple of years too late, after he had lost that yard of pace that would've seen him score for fun here.

From juventus's perspective this seems a strange deal. 

 
B&Wlegends said:
You all underestimate greatly Higuain, whoever gets him will have a great player, he is definetly stronger as a forward than most of  the current forwards in EPL and Sarri knows how to get the best out of him, anyway he is closing with Milan that got a very good deal and it annoys the hell out of me. 
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You need to understand our position though. So many times we have bought these type of strikers over the years and they have turned out to be bad timing. Even you must admit that Higuain wasn't as good last season as he has been in previous years. The way he looks after his body and bottles big moments would surely come back to haunt us too. The tempo of the Premier League compared to Serie A is very different, i'm not saying it's better or anything, but i'm not confident the tempo would suit Higuain at this point in his career. If he had looked after himself a bit more then maybe, but i get the feeling that Higuain's best days are past him now.

 
big blue said:
I dont think theres much doubt higuian is a fantastic striker, I think the worries come from his age and his mobility, and whether or not he would be able to adapt to the premier league. If you also consider the price and wages, then it's easy to see why many chrlsea fans didn't wants this to happen.

We've been here before with shevchenko who was world class, but he struggled to adapt to English football, as he came here a couple of years too late, after he had lost that yard of pace that would've seen him score for fun here.

From juventus's perspective this seems a strange deal. 
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I think you have hit the nail on the head here. Exactly my thought ! 

 
You need to understand our position though. So many times we have bought these type of strikers over the years and they have turned out to be bad timing. Even you must admit that Higuain wasn't as good last season as he has been in previous years. The way he looks after his body and bottles big moments would surely come back to haunt us too. The tempo of the Premier League compared to Serie A is very different, i'm not saying it's better or anything, but i'm not confident the tempo would suit Higuain at this point in his career. If he had looked after himself a bit more then maybe, but i get the feeling that Higuain's best days are past him now.
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On the contrary last year he was great not good and not by chance he was voted Juve MVP of the season (second time in a row). He scored a bit less because he played much more for the team and he learnt to be an advanced play because he is a striker with the technique of a 10. He scored in all key matches that allowed Juve to win the league , the cup and get to cl QF I would be surprised if he didn't score at least 20 goals in the EPL.
 
B&Wlegends said:
On the contrary last year he was great not good and not by chance he was voted Juve MVP of the season (second time in a row). He scored a bit less because he played much more for the team and he learnt to be an advanced play because he is a striker with the technique of a 10. He scored in all key matches that allowed Juve to win the league , the cup and get to cl QF I would be surprised if he didn't score at least 20 goals in the EPL.
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You should have kept him and played him with Ronaldo. You could have sold other players to cover the deal.

 
Scott Harris said:
I'd ditch Zappacosta, it makes the most sense.

Moses is homegrown, solid enough defensively, can attack (end product isn't great though) can play multiple positions. He's a great squad player and has proven to be important to us at times. Zappacosta is mediocre at everything, not as versatile as Moses, and he's taking up a non homegrown spot in the team. If we want to bring another player in then somebody has to go and if I had to pick anybody it would be Zappacosta.

If Sarri goes with Zappacosta, then i can't help but feel it will be because he is Italian.
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And Zappacosta looks like Super Mario.

 
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axman2526 said:
You should have kept him and played him with Ronaldo. You could have sold other players to cover the deal.
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I would agree but Allegri doesn't play with 2 upfront and to be honest we have lots of players and higuain doesn't take it well to stay on the bench. It was very expensive for current budget. Anyway I love the guy but I understand the need to sell him I am just so pissed off that it was to Milan instead of Chelsea because I think he would have been great with you guys and in the same time we would not have helped these Milanese bankrupt morons
 
If we'd really wanted him, we would have got him.

If Juve really rated him, they would have kept him.

Simples.

 
He’s definitely on the decline just have to look at his lowest goals return on goals last year

 
It's a trial before you buy 50M deal, similar deal to the one we reportedly offered. At the end of the day, he didn't want to move, and everyone is pretty happy with the outcome.

 
The thing is that Bonucci is coming back to Juve now, but they still don't want to sell Rugani...  :love0067:

 
Gol15 said:
The thing is that Bonucci is coming back to Juve now, but they still don't want to sell Rugani...  :love0067:
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Most likely because Caldara is rumored to be going the other way in the Bonucci deal.  I’m sure Juve don’t want to lose both of their promising young center halves.

 
mwblue10 said:
Most likely because Caldara is rumored to be going the other way in the Bonucci deal.  I’m sure Juve don’t want to lose both of their promising young center halves.
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Precisely why, yeah. Barzagli is what, 37 or something now? Chiellini is 34 in two weeks. Bonucci and Benatia is both 31.  Not exactly the youngest defenders. They need Rugani for the future - and to be honest we really don't need him that much.

 
Yeah didn't make sense why we were interested in him for the money touted. Wrong side of 30, would cost a bomb and the problem we would have again is he would be in a new league, have to adapt, and it's another expensive risk. I think it seems Chelsea are looking to sell Willian and bring in Martial for that no.9 spot it seems. 

 
enigma said:
Yeah didn't make sense why we were interested in him for the money touted. Wrong side of 30, would cost a bomb and the problem we would have again is he would be in a new league, have to adapt, and it's another expensive risk. I think it seems Chelsea are looking to sell Willian and bring in Martial for that no.9 spot it seems. 
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Now that's a rumour I like! Only problem is we have to get rid of some current strikers along with Willian to make space. Hopefully CHO will get a chance on the right side. Him and Hazard as our wingers would be terrifying.  

I really rated Morata. Huge potential. His end-product is just not good enough.  Yesterday he was - yet again - leaving the field with 3-4 major chances and zero goals to his name. Even got to take our penalty. Hope we offload him and Giroud, and let Michy and Abraham get the chance (along with Martial, should he come). 

 
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