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Ipswich Town vs Chelsea (PL) Monday 30th Dec 24 19:45 GMT

An Everton stonewall penalty away from top at Christmas to never gonna make top 4 in a week.  Only Chelsea eh?  

 
TBH I'm fuming with that 2nd half.

We have Colwill wasting time on the floor at every opotunity and focusing on arguing with the ref.

We was more happy to fight off the ball rather than fight for it.

Worst performance of the season in that 2nd half.

The thing that disappointed me the most is that they lacked desire compared to Ipswich.

 
KonaKai Blue said:
1. Fresh subs vs Fulham could've changed the dynamic of the game which was only going one way. So no I'm not proven wrong there 

2. Fresh players who have seen barely any and no minutes in the last game and lacking match sharpness.
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1. No evidence of that at all.

2. No evidence of that at all.

You see my view is from a modern game's perspective of football management, yours is just a make-believe fantasy;

Fresh players started this match but you couldn't notice it, adding also fresher subs that were brought in as well, without changing the so called dynamic of the game. The players in question would have lacked match-sharpness during the previous match too so your theory of them being able to change the harder match vs Fulham is just a delusion on your part.

Feel free to feel, about it however you want but you do not have any real analysis on your side.

 
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Scoring for fun, chance to go top, top scorers and then 1 goal against Everton, Fulham and Ipswich and down to 4th

 
Listening to 5 Live and it’s interesting that all the chat this evening about what’s going wrong at United (nothing at all to say about Newcastle) and how absolutely wonderful it is that Ipswich finally won a home game (but absolutely nothing about how we’ve blown up)

Funnily enough, whilst interviewing Delap, Kelly Cates voice popped up from the studio saying “do you want a line about Chelsea?” I wonder what the producers answer was. Find out soon.

 
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MyWord said:
8 goals in the Championship last season -exactly the kind of record a donkey would have. 
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Not a bad return for his first senior year. 
Nuance is everything.

It was very clear to me that he’s a quality striker. Almost every strike is on target. He’d score loads of goals for Chelsea and only 21.

 
Gol15 said:
1. No evidence of that at all.

2. No evidence of that at all.

You see my view is from a modern game's perspective of football management, yours is just a make-believe fantasy;

Fresh players started this match but you couldn't notice it, adding also fresher subs that were brought in as well, without changing the so called dynamic of the game. The players in question would have lacked match-sharpness during the previous match too so your theory of them being able to change the harder match vs Fulham is just a delusion on your part.

Feel free to feel, about it however you want but you do not have any real analysis on your side.
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The problem is Gol the fresh players who came in lacked match fitness. The odd 10 mins Nkunku and Felix have been getting is harming their game, they both look rusty. Add to this, not using his compliment of subs may or may not have changed the course of those games but would have given some players a much needed rest. Our midfield looks gassed at 75 mins.

 
5 Live did have a line on Chelsea.

Maresca always said it was too early and the squad is very young. And his Leicester team fell away last year and had to find an answer to hold onto the top spot. That was it.

 
charierre said:
The problem is Gol the fresh players who came in lacked match fitness. The odd 10 mins Nkunku and Felix have been getting is harming their game, they both look rusty. Add to this, not using his compliment of subs may or may not have changed the course of those games but would have given some players a much needed rest. Our midfield looks gassed at 75 mins.
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Like I already pointed out, they would have looked the same or worse vs a better team that is Fulham. We didn't have much of a midfield unless you mean that it was a vital and crucial mistake to not put Casadei at some point of the match but even so it was the starter of Fulham called Lukic that made a run after Cucurella went forward and he assisted the winning goal for them, I don't buy the narrative of the previous match at all.

If Nkunku and J.Felix can't do anything against Ipswich, no amount of fitness or tinkering can save them.

 
Snedger said:
5 Live did have a line on Chelsea.

Maresca always said it was too early and the squad is very young. And his Leicester team fell away last year and had to find an answer to hold onto the top spot. That was it.
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Maresca had the best squad at Leicester in the Championship and still struggled to get them over the line. An overrated manager.

 
 Palmer tries something & it comes off he's brilliant, but if it doesn't he goes missing too many games....when he does he needs to be removed....

too many slow passes just like past few years, won't win games knocking it around ur own back line & then can't compete when opposition put pressure on, 2nd to every ball, no desire except to fkn lie down as if bulldozed...disaster & noni on one wing is a crash waiting to happen...just awful

Did noni, knunku or Felix show why they can't be dropped....brutal effort show it, not one of them went by a defender & all noni wants do is shoot, try going by & getting into a shooting position.......

We'll not even get top 4 on last 3 performances & hard run in....

we must be slowest 3 defenders in Prem lge.. Colwell, tosin & disaster.... slowest in thought & speed....🙄

 
Absolute diabolical football, easily our worse game since going back a bit into last season! I thought the Fulham game was bad enough! No player offered anything, other than maybe Sancho!

 
Frankfurter said:
Maresca had the best squad at Leicester in the Championship and still struggled to get them over the line. An overrated manager.
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When plan A not working he has to have a plan B & C.....apart from few tweaks in games I don't see anything....teams have worked out gusto & cucu being inverted...they really can't play it cause they are not a threat to the opposition, like, and I hesitate to say it, TAA....he can shoot & play players in..... our 2 okay it sideways or back....we need different tactics throughout a game 

 
If anything, we found out we're now definitely not title contenders. That hope lasted about a month haha. I hope they ship a couple of these players out in January, and strengthen us at the back.

 
Gutted. For a moment, I thought we might have been title contenders but the bubble has well and truly burst.

We've made good progress over the calendar year, but there's no denying we've finished 2024 off poorly.

 
MyWord said:
1 point for the last 9 (against dross) is certainly not top 4 form. I’ll be amazed if we get top 4 from here. Can’t score, can’t defend. This has “dropping off a cliff” written all over it. 
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Given 5th will also qualify for UCL next season, top four is basically top five at the moment and we're pretty safe IMHO. I personally believe Forest will drop off these places at some point and in the end it is going to be Liverpool, Arsenal, City, Chelsea and Newcastle for the UCL spots.

If we were thinking at the league title then yes, this would have been a terrible set of results, but that is not the case and never was no matter how the media tried to milk out of the situation. But in the quest for one of the first five spots I believe we are fine and we have everything it take to finish ahead the likes of Forest, Brighton, Villa or Bournemouth.

 
petre ispirescu said:
Given 5th will also qualify for UCL next season, top four is basically top five at the moment and we're pretty safe IMHO. I personally believe Forest will drop off these places at some point and in the end it is going to be Liverpool, Arsenal, City, Chelsea and Newcastle for the UCL spots.

If we were thinking at the league title then yes, this would have been a terrible set of results, but that is not the case and never was no matter how the media tried to milk out of the situation. But in the quest for one of the first five spots I believe we are fine and we have everything it take to finish ahead the likes of Forest, Brighton, Villa or Bournemouth.
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I don't see Forest dropping off, not enough to not be in the mix at least. We've seen this a few times in recent seasons. Newcastle two seasons ago, Villa last season, now it's Forest's turn. These teams just don't drop off, and I think that is the nature of the league now.

I don't see City being a mess all season, they will find a way, they have too much experience. I see us getting dragged into a fight for 5th.

 
Jezz said:
Gutted. For a moment, I thought we might have been title contenders but the bubble has well and truly burst.

We've made good progress over the calendar year, but there's no denying we've finished 2024 off poorly.
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Is all @Sexyfootballfault, he made you all believe!

 
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