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A hopefully recovered Estêvão and the arrival of Quenda likely to restrict his opportunities. Loan seems sensible.
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A hopefully recovered Estêvão and the arrival of Quenda likely to restrict his opportunities. Loan seems sensible.
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He was our best player the last time he played.

 
Hope they actually play him
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If he is ever going to be good enough to be in our first team it will be in his hands.

No one who is good enough to play for us would be benched by sporting Lisbon.

 
Good move for Derry and Chelsea. It's not a coincidence that England's international prospects have drastically improved since English kids started playing in other leagues more frequently. Both the mens and womens teams are reaping the benefits.

 
Imagine saying 25 years ago that an English kid could come on for Sporting Lisbon and be one of the most technically gifted players on the pitch, lol.

TBF England has seriously turned around its youth development since the turn of the century.

 
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Imagine saying 25 years ago that an English kid could come on for Sporting Lisbon and be one of the most technically gifted players on the pitch, lol.

TBF England has seriously turned around its youth development since the turn of the century.
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that chipped shot goal was insane.

 
The kid is special, stood out head and shoulders in every U21 game last year. Argue he was the best player on the pitch for us when he made his appearances for the first team. Now a fast start at Sporting.

Could make next years LW a strength instead of a weakness finally!

 
That loan move needs to be cancelled over this international break. Think he is 3rd choice LW at Sporting as things stand. He has played less than 30mins, and still don’t understand why they randomly loaned a player without any first team experience to a top Portuguese team.

 
That loan move needs to be cancelled over this international break. Think he is 3rd choice LW at Sporting as things stand. He has played less than 30mins, and still don’t understand why they randomly loaned a player without any first team experience to a top Portuguese team.
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There have been some dubious loan placements. Satpayev at Burnley another.

 
That loan move needs to be cancelled over this international break. Think he is 3rd choice LW at Sporting as things stand. He has played less than 30mins, and still don’t understand why they randomly loaned a player without any first team experience to a top Portuguese team.
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I don't get why we keep forcing moves for our young loan players to solid teams in Europe. Derry has no real first team football experience. Why not loan him to the Championship? Same with Mhueka and Emenalo. Celtic are Scotland's biggest team and while I am for loanees to fight for their place, I would prefer them to go on loan to a team that you know requires them. For instance look at when we sent Tammy Abraham out on his first senior season of football to Bristol City. He had a fantastic season and helped his development. Same with Tomori, Mount, Colwill, James. Sending young players to another league in a different country who are an established European team is quite naive.

There have been some dubious loan placements. Satpayev at Burnley another.
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Satpayev is fine. A good loan. One where we haven't tried to force his potential too much by sending him a top tier league. He was playing for Burnley and receiving rave reviews and got MOTM in his last game then got injured. The reason he is not playing is due to recovering from injury. The loan is a good one. He will play once he returns.

 
I don't get why we keep forcing moves for our young loan players to solid teams in Europe. Derry has no real first team football experience. Why not loan him to the Championship? Same with Mhueka and Emenalo. Celtic are Scotland's biggest team and while I am for loanees to fight for their place, I would prefer them to go on loan to a team that you know requires them. For instance look at when we sent Tammy Abraham out on his first senior season of football to Bristol City. He had a fantastic season and helped his development. Same with Tomori, Mount, Colwill, James. Sending young players to another league in a different country who are an established European team is quite naive.

Satpayev is fine. A good loan. One where we haven't tried to force his potential too much by sending him a top tier league. He was playing for Burnley and receiving rave reviews and got MOTM in his last game then got injured. The reason he is not playing is due to recovering from injury. The loan is a good one. He will play once he returns.
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Burnley are rock bottom of the table with an inexperienced coach and massive problems behind the scenes. Read this and tell me it's a good environment for a talented, very young player.

 
Burnley are rock bottom of the table with an inexperienced coach and massive problems behind the scenes. Read this and tell me it's a good environment for a talented, very young player.
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Sorry. Was not aware. I took at is if you meant due to his playing time.

 
Sorry. Was not aware. I took at is if you meant due to his playing time.
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No problem. I was against the loan from the outset. It beats me why they chose Burnley. Their problems are not new.

 
Three months into the new season and I am pretty sure Derry, Mhueka and Emenalo have not made one competitive start. I think Derry started in one cup game, however apart from that his minutes have been very scarce. I am all for young players not being guaranteed a spot if the manager does not think they are currently up to the required standard, however why we are forcing their first experience out in men's football to well established teams is a weird one.

Emenalo has recently returned from injury so let's see how time fares, however both him and Mhueka had a lot of interest from Championship teams which is where I would have preferred they all went tbh. Derry to Sporting was a good move on the basis they played him, however he is struggling for minutes.

Hogh started well at Celtic, however has since come in for a lot of criticisms and was recently dropped. Who did they start up front? A winger.. and to make it worse Celtic lost 2-0 and even then he was an unused sub despite Celtic being 2-0 down at H/T. Mhueka has wasted his time there so far and I don't think it changes as the manager does not start him or bring him on when they are losing. A few days before they were chasing the winner against Dundee United with the game being 2-2 from the 65th minute. They chose to bring him on with 5 minutes to spare...

Look at the likes of Kavuma-McQueen who is on loan at Portsmouth and getting regular game time and seems to be thriving out on loan. We should have also looked at the ones who have made it in the Chelsea team from our academy. James, Colwill, Mount, Abraham, Tomori... all these players had their first spells out on loan in the Championship and came back well prepared for first team football.

We sent Derry, Mhueka and Emenalo on loan to teams where there was already established players in front of them. Hopefully down the line, they can force their way into the team, however so far not impressed at all. Mhueka concerns me the most because the Celtic manager has chopped and changed here and there and tried different up front options up front apart from Mhueka. When they play in the Europa League, he is not even included in the squad.

It is a long season ahead so let's hope things change but concerned looking at things so far.
 
Even more of a concern is Satpayev at Burnley. Coming back from a hamstring injury, re-injured it.
 
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I forgot we have him on the books. Not that it matters apparently.
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He was very good in a sh*t team till the injury. A wee touch of class. The club is a basket case, I suspect the loan will be cancelled.
 
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