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Manchester United vs Chelsea (PL) Saturday 20th September 17:30 GMT

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Just f**king awful - start to finish.

Some of the players run their legs off - well done to them - shame they didn't have a bit more support up front we might have nicked it back.

 
With the clubs strategy of baffling player transfers, squad imbalance coupled with Maresca out of his depth & little rest for players over summer this 25-26 season was always going to be a bit of a rollercoaster/ challenge. Winning the CWC was good but don’t believe the media hype that it elevated us into contenders. Mareca got a lot of credit in the bank w Clearfake he made them a lot of money last season and will this season from UCL revenue. He’s not getting sacked anytime soon so we’ll have to put up with days like this.

 
It could be my 6 beers down but the management of Maresca when they they went down to 10 has me totally bewildered. We had Gittens, Garnacho and Guiu as offensive players on the bench yet he opts for Gusto and George, after spending 5 minutes presumably explaining to Garnacho the tactical reasons why he is not coming on ?? . Absolutely don’t want to make George the scapegoat for this sh*teshow however he always looks like a child who has won a Blue Peter competition to play for the Premier League team of his choice!

 
I completely agree and still think that it still does not fully explain this match.

It is simply not enough for me to say Maresca could’ve done this or that instead.

First, we don’t know what would have happened had he done things differently. Second, it does not excuse the chelsea players who were on the pitch.
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A number of factors today.

I’m 10 miles from OT and can tell you the conditions were atrocious, is bounced down most of the day

Starting the game at Old Trafford, you have to manage the occasion. The crowd are always up for it first ten minutes no matter their form. We simply didn’t fancy it at the start, rain in our faces and a team that responded to the crowd.

Bad mistakes for the sending off, a coach who lost it with his changes…if Palmer was carrying a strain( we all saw him grimace at the end of the Bayern match) he should have been the one to make way, then two banks of four. Absolutely no reason to go to five at the back at this stage, you grind the result out.

Mistakes for both goals even with 3 cb’s

Couldn’t get up the pitch with no attackers

Gifted a sending off and not reacting quick enough despite having 100m of attacking force still on the bench. This was not a game for George. Garnacho may have been a loose cannon with emotion but surely worth a try

Players cost us at the start, Maresca made sure we were returning empty handed

 
With the clubs strategy of baffling player transfers, squad imbalance coupled with Maresca out of his depth & little rest for players over summer this 25-26 season was always going to be a bit of a rollercoaster/ challenge. Winning the CWC was good but don’t believe the media hype that it elevated us into contenders. Mareca got a lot of credit in the bank w Clearfake he made them a lot of money last season and will this season from UCL revenue. He’s not getting sacked anytime soon so we’ll have to put up with days like this.
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It wasn't even just media hype. The players at the start of the season were saying they were ready to challenge Liverpool 🤣

It's not even the end of September, and embarrassingly, they are already 7 points off. The way they have started the season, they won't even be good enough for a top 4 finish.

 
It wasn't even just media hype. The players at the start of the season were saying they were ready to challenge Liverpool 🤣

It's not even the end of September, and embarrassingly, they are already 7 points off. The way they have started the season, they won't even be good enough for a top 4 finish.
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I agree. Top 4 looks unlikely at the moment. Last season was unusual in that a lot of teams were poor and Forest were the team we had to chase for 4th. With the additional distraction of the Champs League until we either crash out after the group stage or early in the knockouts, we will lose too much ground I think.

 
No, just one unfortunately.
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Did the rules change on straight reds? Or is it only violent conduct that gets a 3 game ban?

Then again while Sanchez has his detractors, I am not sure we have any better options despite buying what seems like 10 goalkeepers.

 
With the clubs strategy of baffling player transfers, squad imbalance coupled with Maresca out of his depth & little rest for players over summer this 25-26 season was always going to be a bit of a rollercoaster/ challenge. Winning the CWC was good but don’t believe the media hype that it elevated us into contenders. Mareca got a lot of credit in the bank w Clearfake he made them a lot of money last season and will this season from UCL revenue. He’s not getting sacked anytime soon so we’ll have to put up with days like this.
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Long way to go but we look to be in a more chaotic state as a squad than we did at the start of last season if that is even possible.

 
Did the rules change on straight reds? Or is it only violent conduct that gets a 3 game ban?

Then again while Sanchez has his detractors, I am not sure we have any better options despite buying what seems like 10 goalkeepers.
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Only violent conduct.

 
It wasn't even just media hype. The players at the start of the season were saying they were ready to challenge Liverpool 🤣

It's not even the end of September, and embarrassingly, they are already 7 points off. The way they have started the season, they won't even be good enough for a top 4 finish.
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A big team needs a manager that can handle playing in Europe and doing well in the PL.

Maresca's start of the season is terrible and it's only going to get worse, once we reach the Liverpool match the squad might be completely out of it and a huge loss vs Liverpool should be enough for a sack.

 
A big team needs a manager that can handle playing in Europe and doing well in the PL.

Maresca's start of the season is terrible and it's only going to get worse, once we reach the Liverpool match the squad might be completely out of it and a huge loss vs Liverpool should be enough for a sack.
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I don't think we can afford it. We're financially restricted. Sacking Maresca and his entire team and bringing in a new one will cost a lot of money.

 
I don't think we can afford it. We're financially restricted. Sacking Maresca and his entire team and bringing in a new one will cost a lot of money.
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It would cost even more keeping Maresca, judging by how the season started a top 8 finish is going to lose the club even more money.

 
What is all this? I go on holiday and the bald fraud thinks I'm not paying attention so he can just stop managing the team altogether now?

f**king hell 😡

 
It would cost even more keeping Maresca, judging by how the season started a top 8 finish is going to lose the club even more money.
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I think it's a lose lose. Stick with Maresca and we probably won't make it to the Champions League next season. Change the manager now and if we qualify for the Champions League, we face more financial penalties and probably sporting sanctions this time around too.

Remember, it wouldn't just be Maresca we would be sacking, but his assistants too. Then we would need to pay another club to get their manager and his assistants.

 
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I think it's a lose lose. Stick with Maresca and we probably won't make it to the Champions League next season. Change the manager now and if we qualify for the Champions League, we face more financial penalties and probably sporting sanctions this time around too.

Remember, it wouldn't just be Maresca we would be sacking, but his assistants too. Then we would need to pay another club to get their manager and his assistants.
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This was done with Conte, he and his coach team cost the club over 20m... I have no clue about the additional sanctions this time around though, tough position.

 
I predicted he would be sacked by christmas, difficult run of games coming up

United, Forest, Spurs, Burnley, Leeds, Bournemouth, Newcastle - all away in PL ,add Munich, Quarabag, Atalanta - CL all away plus Lincoln

Brighton, Liverpool, Sunderland, Wolves, Arsenal, Everton - home in PL, add Benfica, A**x, Barcelona - CL

Drop a lot of points in those games and we could be down the table
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Since i posted this we lost both games

Hes well on the way to getting fired

 
From daily mail

A nightmare start How To Implode, by Chelsea Football Club.

Imagine those fans who only tuned in to this match after 20 minutes. They missed a breakdown in blue, and that included from Enzo Maresca in the tactical decisions he made in response to Robert Sanchez’s straight red.

When Sanchez was dismissed after four minutes, Maresca had to sacrifice someone for second-choice goalkeeper Filip Jorgensen.

Choosing Estevao Willian was understandable because he was an 18-year-old Brazilian, new to the Premier League, playing on the left wing when the right is his regular territory.

However, Maresca decided not to stop there. He also hooked Pedro Neto at the same time in order to bring on another defender in Tosin Adarabioyo.

With that, Chelsea were left with no wingers whatsoever and a great deal less speed for countering. They went into 5-3-1 ultra-defensive mode with hardly any attacking outlet, made even worse when Cole Palmerneeded substituting as he appeared to feel his hamstring again.

Against one of the worst Manchester United teams in memory, it reeked of negativity. Chelsea had the entire second half to try to exact an explosive comeback against the same number of men, after Casemiro’s dismissal, but no dynamite left on the pitch to do so.

EVERYONE APART FROM COCO THE CLOWN KNEW THIS

 
NOT content on messing up against Brentford - Pedro told COCO he wasnt 100%, yet played him anyway and left Guiu out of the squad, we now learn this..

What about Cole Palmer, was he injured or was that a tactic?

Cole, he tried this morning, he had a test this morning to play this game, he was not 100% fit, he made a fantastic effort to play this game, but he was not 100%.

So once again he sends a player out onto the pitch knowing full well he wasnt fit and he looks like he has made the injury worse,

But dont stop there, heres his excuse on Garnacho…

“he was ready to go on, but then Wes [Fofana] asked for the change, because he was tired after a long time, so we changed and we decided to go for Tyrique”

WHY SHOULD IT MATTER IF FORFANA ASKED TO COME OFF, GARNACHO IS A BETTER PLAYER THEN GEORGE

 
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