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mclovin83 said:
You are indeed. 

Unfortunately you just epitomise the breed of new age Chelsea fans who I obvioulsy have nothing in common with. 

No offence. 
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new age Chelsea fans? Not quite sure what that means, are you insinuating I've only been round since the money?

 
mclovin83 said:
I am insinuating that you epitimise new age chelsea fans, who have only been around since the money. 
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My dad has been a fan and going to games since the 60's, i'm sorry i wasn't conceived sooner but i was brought up a Chelsea fan since the mid 90's. The snobbery of fans like you that think you're above other fans because you've been going to games longer is embarrassing. Get off your high horse, lad. 

 
Matic ain't good enough for Chels.

After that performance in the FA Cup I don't want to see him wearing the shirt again.

Anything over 10M we're robbing Utd blind.

Get him gone.

 
RIP Mourinho said:
My dad has been a fan and going to games since the 60's, i'm sorry i wasn't conceived sooner but i was brought up a Chelsea fan since the mid 90's. The snobbery of fans like you that think you're above other fans because you've been going to games longer is embarrassing. Get off your high horse, lad. 
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How dare you be born in the 90's and support the team your Pops does?

You absolute plastic. 

If you weren't there for Roy lifting the league back in the day then you ain't Proper Chels.

 
CarefreeSimmo_ said:
How dare you be born in the 90's and support the team your Pops does?

You absolute plastic. 

If you weren't there for Roy lifting the league back in the day then you ain't Proper Chels.
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Mr Mclovin, is that you? Come on now, you're not allowed multiple accounts on here!

 
I wouldn't be against selling him, but to utd? Although he hasn't been the same player he was in his first season here, he still has strengths which would would compliment pogba and herrera. With those two around him rather than solely kante, he could well be a great addition to utd. 

 
RIP Mourinho said:
My dad has been a fan and going to games since the 60's, i'm sorry i wasn't conceived sooner but i was brought up a Chelsea fan since the mid 90's. The snobbery of fans like you that think you're above other fans because you've been going to games longer is embarrassing. Get off your high horse, lad. 
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Hahahahahahahahaha of course, of course.... 

If you slowed down a bit before spewing out your ultra defensive retort, then you would see I didn't actually question your age, or your credentials for supporting Chelsea.

But thanks for your back-story; fascinating stuff. 

All I did was say that, in my opinion, your comments epitimise those of new age Chelsea fans. 

It's the ungrateful & disrespectful mentality of fans like you that I despise, regardless of whther you are 10 or 70, and regardelss of how long you have supported the club. No "high horse" here, I just don't like bellends. 

"lad" hahahaha

 
CarefreeSimmo_ said:
Matic ain't good enough for Chels.

After that performance in the FA Cup I don't want to see him wearing the shirt again.

Anything over 10M we're robbing Utd blind.

Get him gone.
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Define "good enough". 

A player that played in nearly every game of 2 title winning teams of the last 3 years, "not good enough" is a very odd label to use. 

 
mclovin83 said:
Hahahahahahahahaha of course, of course.... 

If you slowed down a bit before spewing out your ultra defensive retort, then you would see I didn't actually question your age, or your credentials for supporting Chelsea.

But thanks for your back-story; fascinating stuff. 

All I did was say that, in my opinion, your comments epitimise those of new age Chelsea fans. 

It's the ungrateful & disrespectful mentality of fans like you that I despise, regardless of whther you are 10 or 70, and regardelss of how long you have supported the club. No "high horse" here, I just don't like bellends. 

"lad" hahahaha
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The blokes been on decline since the 2014/15 season, one donkey comment and you've had an absolute meltdown lmao. As someone else mentioned, go have a peak in a few match day threads and you'll be in for a shock at what people say about players. Am i only allowed to critisize players that haven't won silverware with the club? Torres won two European medals but he was a bit sh*te in my memory. Or is that ungrateful?

 
Personally, I think 40m is good business for a player who was so poor in our title defending seasons. I do rate him highly and his first 6 months back at the club was the best DM in the world in that period with the exception of possibly Veratti at that time, thats judging only by CL games which he could afford to get well up for. 

Judging by stats, Matic covers far more ground that people generally realise. Without being classy I feel he's an annoyance for opposition teams being there. 20/30/40 million, does it really matter anymore what the fee is in todays market. I think he looks a perfect fit for United and if they only get  two years of his best out of him then it will be money well spent by them. I would rather sell to Juve as makeweight for Sandro possibly if it it was possible although this rarely happens in modern day football. We are getting a replacement(albeit I have my doubts about Bakayoko) who is 5 years younger for cheaper than the 40 million and it plays right into the ethos of our club the past 10 years where we only buy players who we can resell at same price or ever over. It is a good way to do it for the club and we have done very well with this(Lukaku,Shurrle,Salah,De Bruyne) albeit the wrong decision on De Bruyne, the list goes on. 

All in all, club will be looking to cash in regardless of which club if 40m is available. If Baka does not work out then he will be sold for 40 million in 2 years time. 

 
ForeverCarefree said:
Define "good enough". 

A player that played in nearly every game of 2 title winning teams of the last 3 years, "not good enough" is a very odd label to use. 
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Was fantastic for the 1st Title Win. No arguments about that one.

Past 2 seasons has been appalling.

One good goal against the Y*ds is all he's contributed the past 2 seasons.

Disgustingly one footed, useless aerially, minimal amounts of pace, realistically offers nothing in the final third. Quite easily the worst player in our starting XI. Kante deserves a medal for the job he did hiding these deficiencies last season as well as he did.

If we want to compete on all fronts next season then Matic isn't good enough for that.

 
Why is it so hard for fans to show some respect to current players who have contributed in the past. Why feel the need to call them Donkeys, c**ts, pricks all kinds of garbage. So he didnt play well last season, that doesn't mean he has to be labelled as those kinds of things for f**ks sake. It is all over social media this kind of sh*t, its a real shame its made it onto this forum now.

 
RIP Mourinho said:
The blokes been on decline since the 2014/15 season, one donkey comment and you've had an absolute meltdown lmao. As someone else mentioned, go have a peak in a few match day threads and you'll be in for a shock at what people say about players. Am i only allowed to critisize players that haven't won silverware with the club? Torres won two European medals but he was a bit sh*te in my memory. Or is that ungrateful?
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There has been no "melt down". 

When you called Matic a donkey, I said "really?" to which you replied "yah"..... had you perhaps actually responded with an argument of some substance, some logic, then I am sure we could have traded opinions in a respectful manner. 

I can only assume that someone who replies with "yah" when questioned about a post mocking one of our players, isn't that interested in debating the finer points. 

I avoid Match day threads for the very reason you mention, but would be more undertanding of things said in the heat of the moment whilst a match is live to be honest. 

Torres is arguably the biggest flop in our history (in terms of value for money at least), so I would of course understand why people would call him sh*t (in relative terms). That's a whole different topic though, and one I have wasted hours and hours on over the years!

Don't muddle criticism with disrespect; two entirely different things. 

 
mclovin83 said:
There has been no "melt down". 

When you called Matic a donkey, I said "really?" to which you replied "yah"..... had you perhaps actually responded with an argument of some substance, some logic, then I am sure we could have traded opinions in a respectful manner. 

I can only assume that someone who replies with "yah" when questioned about a post mocking one of our players, isn't that interested in debating the finer points. 

I avoid Match day threads for the very reason you mention, but would be more undertanding of things said in the heat of the moment whilst a match is live to be honest. 

Torres is arguably the biggest flop in our history (in terms of value for money at least), so I would of course understand why people would call him sh*t (in relative terms). That's a whole different topic though, and one I have wasted hours and hours on over the years!

Don't muddle criticism with disrespect; two entirely different things. 
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You asked a simple question, i gave a simple reply. You didn't ask 'what makes you think this?' etc. or perhaps i would have given a more in depth answer. 

Ivanovic contributed untold amounts to this club but i would also label him as a donkey or hindrance towards the end of his tenure. Pointing out that someone ain't that good anymore ain't disrespectful, it's just stating the obvious. 

dkw said:
Why is it so hard for fans to show some respect to current players who have contributed in the past. Why feel the need to call them Donkeys, c**ts, pricks all kinds of garbage. So he didnt play well last season, that doesn't mean he has to be labelled as those kinds of things for f**ks sake. It is all over social media this kind of sh*t, its a real shame its made it onto this forum now.
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Calling someone a donkey isn't quite the same as calling someone a c**t or a prick.. Those are personal insults about someone, referring to someone as a donkey is just highlighting that they aren't a great footballer anymore. 

 
RIP Mourinho said:
You asked a simple question, i gave a simple reply. You didn't ask 'what makes you think this?' etc. or perhaps i would have given a more in depth answer. 
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I didn't say "what makes you think this" because it's quite obviously implied, and anyone with half a brain cell can see that. 

 
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mclovin83 said:
I didn't say "what makes you think this" because it's quite obviously implied, and anyone with half a brain cell can see that. 
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So this entire debacle that led to insults flying around is because i didn't answer a poorly worded question from you? Bizarre. 

 
RIP Mourinho said:
So this entire debacle that led to insults flying around is because i didn't answer a poorly worded question from you? called one of our title winning players a donkey, and then continied to reply with dismissive & antagonistic replies instead of justifying my original post with something worth reading. 
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Fixed it for you. 

 
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