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wallosh said:
Matic is not a defensive midfielder. And that explains why he is usually reluctant to stay in front of the defence. Just like somebody said here he is more box to box type.
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He very much is a defensive mid. Defensive mids do not just have to sit however, just because the greatest one (Maka) played his game like that doesn't mean that's how all DMs play. They screen the defence and win the ball, when our team is in posession then of course there's a license to push forward. Even Mikel does push forward and he's the most defensive DM alive. Busquets does it, he's probably the best in the world at what he does, Khedira does it. It's hard to think of any player who just sits.

 
You don't go from being the Best DM in the league to a no-hoper within the space of a few months so I would hope the New Manager gives him the opportunity to recapture his old form.

This season it appears like he had made a conscious effort to add a attacking dimension to his game, the number of times he has wandered into the attacking third leaving huge gaps behind him is baffling. This has led him to lose confidence which has affected his overall game, he needs to simplify his game like last season and let the attacking players do their thing.

However having said that he has looked better in his last couple of appearances.

 
RMCM said:
He very much is a defensive mid. Defensive mids do not just have to sit however, just because the greatest one (Maka) played his game like that doesn't mean that's how all DMs play. They screen the defence and win the ball, when our team is in posession then of course there's a license to push forward. Even Mikel does push forward and he's the most defensive DM alive. Busquets does it, he's probably the best in the world at what he does, Khedira does it. It's hard to think of any player who just sits.
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Watch carefully when next he is playing beside Fabregas and tell me from their positioning who look more like the one playing defensive midfield.

 
wallosh said:
Watch carefully when next he is playing beside Fabregas and tell me from their positioning who look more like the one playing defensive midfield.
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You're straight up wrong here. It's the position I play for my team (no we're not particularly good, but I understand how the role works)

Fabregas plays deep because he can see the game from there, his long passing is phenomenal, and he's not particularly mobile anyway. If YOU watch carefully next time matic plays alongside him (and also when Mikel plays alongside him) you'll see he is in fact a DM. The responsibility in his position is to press and close down the opposition in between the half way line and our penalty area, which is what he does. He puts pressure on the opposition while they're in possession, and wins the ball in MIDFIELD, which is where a defensive MIDFIELDER is tasked with playing. Just because he doesnt park his arse two inches in front of our centre backs for the whole game does not mean that he is anything other than a DM. 

 
horrible form. i can't see conte putting up with his nonsense. how much could we get for him? 

 
enigma said:
horrible form. i can't see conte putting up with his nonsense. how much could we get for him? 
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Agree, he looks afraid of putting in a hard tackle, it's such a far cry from what we saw for his first 18 months

 
Awful. The crap about confidence is madness. Professional sportsmen and there's talk of confidence issues because a few bad words were said to them. Really bugs me. He needs to pull his finger out cos right now hazard and matic are passengers in this team.

 
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10188792/nemanja-matic-targets-13-game-winning-streak-for-chelsea

I cant be the only one that saw Matic calling for Chelsea to go on a winning streak and thought "You of all people should be focusing on getting your own game right, never mind issuing rallying calls to the rest of the squad!"

If Matic was at last season's levels then maybe we'd have half a chance of winning 10 games in a row... but when he's contributing f**k-all he should probably keep quiet...

 
Considering the other areas we need to strengthen in the team, its obvious we cant sign more than one defensive midfielder which will be Naingollan or Kante so i will still like us to keep both Mikel and Matic around.

But if Juventus are really serious about getting Matic for 20m, i will swiftly take the money right now!

 
He's the only one who hasn't imrpoved at all from the sh*t start of the season, he still looks slow and clumsy all the time. What has happened to him?

 
Daily Star reporting Matic to Juve for £20 mill is a done deal, hopefully as a makeweight for Pogba?  :laugh2:

 
Zeta Orionis said:
He's the only one who hasn't imrpoved at all from the sh*t start of the season, he still looks slow and clumsy all the time. What has happened to him?
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I don't think he's been the same since that incident against Burnely last season in all honesty.

 
I think he deserves another chance.

Maybe as a squad player next season , Sell Mikel and keep Matic (if he wants to stay).

Hopefully he will have something to prove...

 
IliyaKrostin said:
Just after one bad season we try to sell him.
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People really have short memories, don't they? Player of the year a couple of seasons ago and now people want him gone. Compare him to say, Oscar, who hasn't performed since that game against Juve pretty much. He is expendable.

I want Matic to stay, I want to see what Conte does with him. 

 
If he can be rehabilitated, then we have the best midfielder of his type in the league.

Just what on earth has happened to him? No major injuries, in his prime years, Jose is gone so he couldn't point to him anymore...

It's the biggest mystery of the season.

 
g3.7 said:
If he can be rehabilitated, then we have the best midfielder of his type in the league.

Just what on earth has happened to him? No major injuries, in his prime years, Jose is gone so he couldn't point to him anymore...

It's the biggest mystery of the season.
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I wonder if this is the first negative of his career and its just smashed his confidence. Everything so far had been up and up, then this huge low.
 
He used to play best when we had loads of possession and were pushed up the field, he was a specialist at breaking down counter attacks high up the pitch.

But since we have lost our capability to hold the ball for longer periods, he has nose dived into a very ordinary player.

 
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