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Van Butsen said:
I'm not talking about form, I'm talking about liability issues that can't be iorned out.  I'm also not talking about Matic, just in general
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Fair enough, i assumed you were speaking about Matic due to the thread. Just imagine a peak Matic at Utd. Scary thoughts.

 
RIP Mourinho said:
Fair enough, i assumed you were speaking about Matic due to the thread. Just imagine a peak Matic at Utd. Scary thoughts.
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Nope, was just quoting the poster above me.

Matic is the reason we won it and the reason we didn't, super super important,

 
Conte has been singing Matic's praises in his first press conference in America

"Matic is an important player for me, a very important player. In my idea of football he is an important player and he knows this."

"I am delighted with Matic's attitude and behaviour and I see in him a great commitment."

"I know with Matic's work he can become a fantastic midfielder, one of the best in the world in my opinion."

"When I have players like N’Golo, Nemanja, Cesc, Oscar, Chalobah and Mikel, it is not easy to choose. I want to have this problem."

 
with rumors that Matic wanted by Juventus if Pogba goes, that's could be either warning off or bidding up price. unless Juve pay up I'm inclined to keep and ship off one of the others (not Nate though - want him given a chance). Or ask for Bonucci in return.

 
VG said:
with rumors that Matic wanted by Juventus if Pogba goes, that's could be either warning off or bidding up price. unless Juve pay up I'm inclined to keep and ship off one of the others (not Nate though - want him given a chance). Or ask for Bonucci in return.
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If Juve cash in on pogba big time we need to be doing to them what clubs typically do to us... we know you have the money so Matic just doubled in price. 

Personaly I still believe Matic can be the beast we remember  

 
ForeverCarefree said:
Conte has been singing Matic's praises in his first press conference in America

"Matic is an important player for me, a very important player. In my idea of football he is an important player and he knows this."

"I am delighted with Matic's attitude and behaviour and I see in him a great commitment."

"I know with Matic's work he can become a fantastic midfielder, one of the best in the world in my opinion."

"When I have players like N’Golo, Nemanja, Cesc, Oscar, Chalobah and Mikel, it is not easy to choose. I want to have this problem."
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Interesting that RLC not mentioned in that list - nice to Chalobah's name 

 
barak81 said:
Interesting that RLC not mentioned in that list - nice to Chalobah's name 
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RIP Mourinho said Conte's previously referred to RLC as a "striker". 

Bit concerned by that personally because I don't think RLC influences play pushed high up the pitch. He's looked best for Chelsea on the few occasions he's played deeper in midfield and been able to pick the ball up in out own half, stretch his legs and carry the ball forward. 

Can't see it being a long term plan for RLC and maybe he's just being utilised in that way during pre-season as we're stacked for midfielders because we've not sold anyone yet but lack enough fit forwards for a two striker system. 

 
4 pre-season games so far and in each of them he has looked terrible. I don't like to judge players on how they perform in pre-season, but Matic was so bad last season that you even end up looking at these games for some sign of improvement. Those problems Matic was having last season are quite clearly still there and i don't think he is going to snap out of it. It wasn't even surprising to see Matic almost head that ball over Begovic's head in the game against Real Madrid, it was just typical Matic of the last year. It's such a shame because i thought we had that position sorted for years with Matic there.

 
Scott Harris said:
4 pre-season games so far and in each of them he has looked terrible. I don't like to judge players on how they perform in pre-season, but Matic was so bad last season that you even end up looking at these games for some sign of improvement. Those problems Matic was having last season are quite clearly still there and i don't think he is going to snap out of it. It wasn't even surprising to see Matic almost head that ball over Begovic's head in the game against Real Madrid, it was just typical Matic of the last year. It's such a shame because i thought we had that position sorted for years with Matic there.
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Like you Scott...I think he has been woeful TBH, friendlies or not, his job is to protect the back and he simply is not doing it and in the process giving the ball away too easily. The aging central defenders are worrying me and Matic isn't giving me any confidence that he can offer even a layer of protection....apart from Kante it seems that we still need someone to sit in there...who I just don't know.   At this point I just might flog him to Juventus and make some money and go an get someone else or give one of the kids a chance....

 
I'm getting a bit worried. He's not played well for quite a while now. Although maybe playing with Kante will bring out the best in him.

 
Was he a pure dm at benfica or nah? Maybe he would be more use next to a dm like kante.

 
i think during the 2015-2016 offseason he got abducted by the monstars of space jam and they stole his talent

i think that's the only logical explanation, from arguably the best dm in the world to a borderline unplayable player in just a span of 2 months and never improve since then

 
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bjd said:
He's broken, beyond repair I think. Cash in.
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Hate to say it bjd but I'm starting to agree with that sentiment.

Problem is we'd lose a lot as well. He is our only left footed cm and we'd have quite a short midfield without him as well.

In a three man midfield I think he would work but he just isn't mobile enough in a two.

 
Mid way through last season every under performer had raised their level and either returned to normal or had a few good games here and there, but Matic is the only one stuck at rock bottom. I don't think he even had a single good game since last year.

I'd still keep him at the club because we know what he can do and he cost £20 which is peanuts in today's world and I don't think we can sell for much either. Either he keeps plugging away trying to improve in the squad or go out on loan if this club can't seem to rehab him back to normal.

 
Matic is a lost cause I am afraid, after seeing him in pre-season continuing his very bad form from last year. All this after Conte reassured him he is a big part of our future, trying to bring his confidence levels up.

I don't know if we sell him how much we can get, we " only " paid 21 million for him, he should be worth about 35-40 mil in this crazy market

 
Matic used to be one of my favourite players the year we won the league.If it was up to me i'd keep him for one more year(not as a starter tho) and if he didn't improve then go on and sell

 
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