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Lane said:
I havent seen to much of him, but he seems to be somewhere between maka and alonso. He will make an occasional run into the box but nowhere near as often as Rami
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Just watched him on Youtube. Don't get too excited but I think we may have just secured ourselves the next Javi Garcia.

 
Bit of insight from Tor-Kristian Karlsen for those who, like myself, haven't seen a lot of him.

"Nemanja Matic (Benfica) apparently on his way to Chelsea. Extremely impressive over the past year. Improved many aspects of his game.

mainly a defensive midfielder, but with the capacity to bring the ball forward. Left-footed, reasonably dynamic despite (huge) size

excellent at intercepting passes and then quickly initiating attacking move. "Presence" on the pitch, (obviously) strong in the air

hard to stop when venturing forward with ball at his feet. Tactically smart, takes up good positions. Ready to make impact in the PL"

 
I think people are getting far to excited over this kid. I really don't believe he is anywhere near as good as people are raving about?

 
Well we have Ramires who only really warrants his place in our midfield. He is one of our best players. Then we have Mikel who can do a job, Frank who is makeshift for the spot and old, Essien who is ravaged by injuries and simply not just good enough. Van Ginkel is out with the injury.

If Matic is as good as he is said to be this buy would absolutely make sense. Look at City. They have their Ramires in Fernandinho and Yaya who is one of the best players in the world. He commands their midfield and we really don't have that player. Matic could be that if he's good.

We are not buying a striker so this would be the other place we can really strenghten. D is good, AM spots covered and a great keeper. We've only lacked middle of the park and in strikers. 1 down 1 to go (if this deal happens)

 
Uno said:
I think people are getting far to excited over this kid. I really don't believe he is anywhere near as good as people are raving about?
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He may not an elite CM like yaya, busquets and martinez are but we finally wont have a gaping hole in our midfield. So far weve been forced to use players not suitable for the role (lampard) or players who just arent good enough (mikel, essien)

 
Someone mentioned how he's covered more ground this season than anyone else. Ideal for the pressing game José is using now.

Staggered a few of you are writing him off before you've even seen him f**king play. I have seen very little of him, but the general consensus from people that have, is that he's a very good player.

Probably the same people that were writing Willian off before we signed him.

 
evissy said:
Well we have Ramires who only really warrants his place in our midfield. He is one of our best players. Then we have Mikel who can do a job, Frank who is makeshift for the spot and old, Essien who is ravaged by injuries and simply not just good enough. Van Ginkel is out with the injury.

If Matic is as good as he is said to be this buy would absolutely make sense. Look at City. They have their Ramires in Fernandinho and Yaya who is one of the best players in the world. He commands their midfield and we really don't have that player. Matic could be that if he's good.

We are not buying a striker so this would be the other place we can really strenghten. D is good, AM spots covered and a great keeper. We've only lacked middle of the park and in strikers. 1 down 1 to go (if this deal happens)
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Didnt you post how we dont need him just a few days ago?

 
AdamCFC said:
Someone mentioned how he's covered more ground this season than anyone else. Ideal for the pressing game José is using now.

Staggered a few of you are writing him off before you've even seen him f**king play. I have seen very little of him, but the general consensus from people that have, is that he's a very good player.

Probably the same people that were writing Willian off before we signed him.
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He doesn't wear an Alice band of have a fancy latino name... instant recepie for faliure

 
AdamCFC said:
Someone mentioned how he's covered more ground this season than anyone else. Ideal for the pressing game José is using now.
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Yeah i posted that, covered more ground than any other player in the CL

Wanted to compare that piece of statistics to Frank and Rami, who although havent played every single minute of CL football like Matic, still cover less ground per minute on average

Rami 133 m/min

Lamps 127 m/min

Matic 146 m/min

 
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Saying goodbye??

 
Lane said:
Yeah i posted that, covered more ground than any other player in the CL<br /><br />Wanted to compare that piece of statistics to Frank and Rami, who although havent played every single minute of CL football like Matic, still cover less ground per minute on average<br /><br />Rami 133 m/min<br />Lamps 127 m/min<br />Matic 146 m/min
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<br /><br />Interesting stats. Lamps not as sluggish as you might be lead to believe. I guess speed comes into it as well and also how little there is between players at the top.
 
ozboy said:
<br /><br />Interesting stats. Lamps not as sluggish as you might be lead to believe. I guess speed comes into it as well and also how little there is between players at the top.
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theyre not really that close when you compare them to other top CMs. Lamps for example is almost identical with xavi, vidal and kroos, its almost creepy. Yaya is about the same as well.

 
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Lane said:
theyre not really that close when you compare them to other top CMs. Lamps for example is almost identical with xavi, vidal and kroos, its almost creepy. Yaya is about the same as well.
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Lampard isn't the steamship people seem to think he is, he's just lost a lot of the explosive drive he used to have, exhibit 1 and 2 being his goals against Bolton.

 
From WAGHN:

The notable difference in the player from three years ago is the precision with which he now operates. He now reads the game considerably faster than he did three years ago, and his passing has become far more accurate as a result. Instead of either holding the ball too long or simply getting rid of it as soon as receiving it, Matic is now making excellent quick decisions on what to do and moving the ball in short order. He's not a dynamic distributor in the style of Andrea Pirlo, but he's certainly not going to be someone that we complain "only passes it sideways".

He's always been very aggressive in his defending, but his total fouls and cards have remained about the same while the amount of challenges he's attempting have nearly doubled. He'll likely always be the sort of player that flirts with yellow card suspensions, but that's more because of the volume of challenges he's involved in as opposed to overly reckless play.

I was fairly high on Matic when we parted ways with him three years ago, and nothing has changed with the player in that time to make me change my thinking. Central midfielders tend to reach their peak at a later age than many other positions, as elite athleticism is less important than good decision making in congested areas. At just 25, there's very little reason to believe that Matic's best seasons are still in front of him, and he's likely to still be improving for at least another season or two.

If you want a perfect example of this, just look at Yaya Toure. The Ivorian was always a gifted physical specimen, but didn't move to a top club until joining Barcelona at the age of 24. His best years clearly came after joiningManchester City at the age of 27 though, and he's still going strong at 30. In addition, size and strength players tend to age very well, far more than players who rely solely on their explosiveness.

Matic has a very similar profile to Yaya, an elite, massive athlete that's developing into a very good decision maker. He's the kind of player that can be used in any number of roles, and can give you a matchup nightmare in the midfield without having to overload numbers in order to achieve that. Like Yaya, Matic is an exceptional athlete, and he can lose a step and still be superior to many central midfielders in that regard. If you've been drooling over the tank Manchester City have had bossing the midfield for the past several years, there aren't many young players that profile him more closely right now than Nemanja Matic.

The player would compliment our current under 30 options very well. With Ramires, he'd provide a pair that cover immense amounts of ground, challenge for every ball in the midfield, and allow the attacking band to worry less about covering for the pivot. With Mikel, he'd give Chelsea a physically imposing pair, capable of easily putting games to bed.  Marco van Ginkel is a bit of a wildcard, as many Chelsea fans haven't yet seen enough of him to know what he brings to the table. Matic would seemingly fit with the him as well though, either as a pivot partner or in a three-man midfield.

 
Jorge Jesus on Matic: "If Matic is leaving? I would be the last to know. We've always sold players and we have to live with it."

— Jan Hagen (@PortuBall) January 12, 2014

 
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